Qcumber Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 With the Amazon prime day sale I can get a 5900x for £244. Does anyone have any experience of this CPU and is it worth the upgrade? My current specs are in my signature. Any replies are appreciated before the end of tomorrow (11th Oct). 5800x3d: rtx4070: 64Gb 3200: 1Tb NVME: Pico 4: Rift S: Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 functionally very little performance update SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) That would be the wrong choice imho, if, then I would go for a 5800X3D instead. Edited October 10, 2023 by BitMaster 1 Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qcumber Posted October 10, 2023 Author Share Posted October 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, BitMaster said: That would be the wrong choice imho, if, then I would go for a 5800X3D instead. Thanks for the quick response. I have read that the 5800x3d is the better choice but is this still the case since MT was introduced? Do you think I will see any performance improvement over the 5600x with my GPU? 5800x3d: rtx4070: 64Gb 3200: 1Tb NVME: Pico 4: Rift S: Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 According to multiple statements here in this Forum, YES. If it is worth the expense depends on your budget. You can offset the expense by selling your 5600X 1 1 Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiob Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Qcumber said: Thanks for the quick response. I have read that the 5800x3d is the better choice but is this still the case since MT was introduced? Do you think I will see any performance improvement over the 5600x with my GPU? Yes! 1 hour ago, speed-of-heat said: functionally very little performance update For DCS, I would say it is close to nothing. (5900X) I would go with the 5800X3D if that is an option. (For the record: I have a 5900X but would buy an 5800X3D instead if I had to choose again) 1 "Muß ich denn jedes Mal, wenn ich sauge oder saugblase den Schlauchstecker in die Schlauchnut schieben?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qcumber Posted October 10, 2023 Author Share Posted October 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, Hiob said: I would go with the 5800X3D if that is an option. It's the price drop in the 5900x which prompted me to consider an upgrade, but for the £40 price difference it sounds like the 5800x3d is the way to go. Thanks for the advice. Searching through the DCS threads it does look like this can give a big improvement for VR. 5800x3d: rtx4070: 64Gb 3200: 1Tb NVME: Pico 4: Rift S: Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiob Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Qcumber said: It's the price drop in the 5900x which prompted me to consider an upgrade, but for the £40 price difference it sounds like the 5800x3d is the way to go. Thanks for the advice. Searching through the DCS threads it does look like this can give a big improvement for VR. Everytime you are CPU-bottlenecked, which is most often experienced in VR. But you may also have improvements in AI-heavy missions with lots of units e.g.... When your CPU is whistling "la paloma" while your GPU has a red head like in high-res, max detail solo missions, you won't see a difference either way. "Muß ich denn jedes Mal, wenn ich sauge oder saugblase den Schlauchstecker in die Schlauchnut schieben?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qcumber Posted October 10, 2023 Author Share Posted October 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Hiob said: When your CPU is whistling "la paloma" while your GPU has a red head like in high-res, max detail solo missions, you won't see a difference either way. I am mostly GPU limited unless I cap at 45 fps and use reprojection. This reduces my GPU load to about 60-70%. I guess that means I won't see much improvement from a better CPU!? 5800x3d: rtx4070: 64Gb 3200: 1Tb NVME: Pico 4: Rift S: Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiob Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, Qcumber said: I am mostly GPU limited unless I cap at 45 fps and use reprojection. This reduces my GPU load to about 60-70%. I guess that means I won't see much improvement from a better CPU!? I'd say, most of the time, no. But it may of course alleviate some hickups and bottlenecks, that will inevitable happen depending on scene and settings. It's a dynamic environment. 1 "Muß ich denn jedes Mal, wenn ich sauge oder saugblase den Schlauchstecker in die Schlauchnut schieben?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiob Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Look. If you have the desire to spend some money and take advantage of the prime day. Or just want to upgrade your PC - go ahead. The 5800X3D is the single best gaming CPU in its generation, that is general consensus - and you feel the difference at some point or in some game...... If you don't have the money burning a hole in your pocket or laying around, there is no need to be too sour. Your 5600X is just fine for DCS. 2 "Muß ich denn jedes Mal, wenn ich sauge oder saugblase den Schlauchstecker in die Schlauchnut schieben?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 CPU's don't solve a GPU limitation, you can iron out some stutter here and there and enjoy more fluent gameplay, which you only measure in smiles but not fps. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qcumber Posted October 10, 2023 Author Share Posted October 10, 2023 1 hour ago, BitMaster said: CPU's don't solve a GPU limitation, you can iron out some stutter here and there and enjoy more fluent gameplay, which you only measure in smiles but not fps. Smoother play is what I am looking for. The 5800x3d is not any cheaper at the moment so I think I will see what DLSS brings first in terms of GPU hit etc. 1 5800x3d: rtx4070: 64Gb 3200: 1Tb NVME: Pico 4: Rift S: Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiob Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 probably a good call. 1 "Muß ich denn jedes Mal, wenn ich sauge oder saugblase den Schlauchstecker in die Schlauchnut schieben?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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