IR Seeker active light goes off after using A/G radio contolled missiles and never back on again

[JG11Preusse]

Hi all,

this time i made a short trk file, see attachment.

My loadout was 1 A/G Heat missile, 1 A/G HE missile at the stations called "msl". 

Station 1 and 4 each 1 R-60m A/A infra red missile.

Flying towards the target area, i released A/G Heat missiles to hardtargets.

until i did that, the "infra red seeker active" yellow light was on. 

After releasing the A/G weps, the light went off and never got on again, so using my A/A missles where not possible anymore.

Told Petrovic to hold fire and undesig scope off, nothing happens to the yellow rdy light. A/A panel power off and on again and then switching from station 1 to 2 and back again, no change.

Maybe someone can help me out of this problem, engaged this all the time.

Thx

Andi

IR seeker off and stays off.trk

Edited October 10, 2023 by JG11Preusse

[admiki]

Are you flying on stable? Your track is not showing for my DCS.

You need to switch off R-60s before using ATGM and then turn them on again.

[JG11Preusse]

vor einer Stunde schrieb admiki:

Are you flying on stable? Your track is not showing for my DCS.

You need to switch off R-60s before using ATGM and then turn them on again.

No .. i fly only Beta version.

What will be the procedure that i have to do after using ATGM Missiles  ? >   in my track file you can see, that i switched off R-60 after using ATGM and tried to bring them on after i told Petro to hold fire, etc. > A/A panel off power > AA panel power on, selecting station 1 or 2 >> no way to bring the IR seeker online back

Dont worked.

 

Edited October 10, 2023 by JG11Preusse

[QuiGon]

3 hours ago, JG11Preusse said:

Hi all,

this time i made a short trk file, see attachment.

My loadout was 1 A/G Heat missile, 1 A/G HE missile at the stations called "msl". 

Station 1 and 4 each 1 R-60m A/A infra red missile.

Flying towards the target area, i released A/G Heat missiles to hardtargets.

until i did that, the "infra red seeker active" yellow light was on. 

After releasing the A/G weps, the light went off and never got on again, so using my A/A missles where not possible anymore.

Told Petrovic to hold fire and undesig scope off, nothing happens to the yellow rdy light. A/A panel power off and on again and then switching from station 1 to 2 and back again, no change.

Maybe someone can help me out of this problem, engaged this all the time.

Thx

Andi

IR seeker off and stays off.trk 5.5 MB · 3 downloads

 

I just took a look at the track file and I suspect it might be an issue with unlimited weapons, as unlimited weapons is turned on for this mission.

[admiki]

1 hour ago, JG11Preusse said:

No .. i fly only Beta version.

What will be the procedure that i have to do after using ATGM Missiles  ? >   in my track file you can see, that i switched off R-60 after using ATGM and tried to bring them on after i told Petro to hold fire, etc. > A/A panel off power > AA panel power on, selecting station 1 or 2 >> no way to bring the IR seeker online back

Dont worked.

 

 

That's the point, I can't see your track. For some reason my DCS is not seeing it at all.

You need to switch them off BEFORE using ATGMs. If left on, they will come back, but it takes a long time.

[QuiGon]

3 minutes ago, admiki said:

That's the point, I can't see your track. For some reason my DCS is not seeing it at all

I was able to see it just fine (using the Open Beta).
 

3 minutes ago, admiki said:

You need to switch them off BEFORE using ATGMs. If left on, they will come back, but it takes a long time.

Interesting, haven't heard this before. Do you have any estimate how long it takes the missiles to come back online?

[admiki]

My bad, that's the case when rearming. AFAIK, if you have R-60 active and Petrovich on hold fire mode, you can't fire ATGMs.. He can fire fine in free fire mode. So, if it's an air target, you can fire both ATGM and R-60 at the same time.

TBH, I haven't used R-60s after that mission, so didn't test further.

OP, try to do full repair.

[QuiGon]

5 minutes ago, admiki said:

OP, try to do full repair.

I would just try flying a mission without unlimited weapons.

[JG11Preusse]

vor 9 Minuten schrieb QuiGon:

I would just try flying a mission without unlimited weapons.

Will try it tomorrow and will let you know.

All in all it makes no sence for me at the moment, if unlimited or limited weps are aktivated in the mission. It should work this or that way, like it does at all my other Modules.

[QuiGon]

25 minutes ago, JG11Preusse said:

All in all it makes no sence for me at the moment, if unlimited or limited weps are aktivated in the mission. It should work this or that way, like it does at all my other Modules.

The "unlimited weapons" option actually does cause similar issues in some other modules as well as it is not realistic for the missile to reapear on the pylons after having fired them and thus can cause issues with the missile selection logic of the aircraft.

Edited October 10, 2023 by QuiGon

[JG11Preusse]

Thx to QuiGon, the strange behavior i mentioned before was a result of "unlimited weps" active.

Would be nice, if that can be fixed that way, that you can use it for training maps to train your new mods, without going back to your homebase to rearm/refuel.

Hals- und Beinbruch

Andi