[CHK] JF-17 radar gunsight inaccurate again

[some1]

The gunsight again does not point to the correct place in the sky, this time the bullets fly in front of the target (too much lead). Tested all 3 gunsight options, they all seem the same. DCS 2.9

Target is flying a constant 3g turn, no evasive manoeuvres. 

GunsJF2.trk

Edited December 17, 2023 by uboats

[NumberTwo]

I just tested this and it is true, radar gunsight is not working properly again, it leads too much this time, with all 3 modes.

[Tango3B]

@uboats Can you please check this issue? As shown in the above track there is actually an issue with computing too much lead under certain circumstances. Something appears to be a little bit off. And while we are here…any chance for a tracerless 23mm ammo option? Thank you.

[Napillo]

On 11/30/2023 at 8:27 AM, Tango3B said:

And while we are here…any chance for a tracerless 23mm ammo option?

Try to stay on topic. Also, I've seen there is 23mm AP ammo available yet we don't get that even though the gun is tilted down specifically to target ground targets.

[Tango3B]

22 hours ago, Napillo said:

Try to stay on topic. Also, I've seen there is 23mm AP ammo available yet we don't get that even though the gun is tilted down specifically to target ground targets.

Yup. I saw that, too. That´s why I am asking. Anyhow, the main topic remains fixing the gun lead computation. We definitely need a fix here. @uboats Any update on this one? And before anyone comes up with "bro you need about a second for the sight to compute the correct lead"...I know. I really know. It does not. So we need a deeper look into the current mechanics. Thank you.

[RPY Variable]

I don't know where the "the gun is tilted down specifically to target ground targets" myth came from. But people keep repeating and repeating... The gun has the angle that it has because it is located under the fuselage, so it can't be tilted up, like in western fighters to gain more lead. It is the same arrangement of the mig-21 and nobody is repeating that mig-21 "the gun is tilted down specifically to target ground targets". Or the F-4, again mounted under the fuselage, and tilted is tilted down quite a couple of degrees.

[Pavlin_33]

Also who would use a JF-17 to strafe at ground targets? 

[My_Name_Jeff]

On 12/3/2023 at 4:31 PM, Pavlin_33 said:

Also who would use a JF-17 to strafe at ground targets? 

Me

[Pavlin_33]

18 hours ago, My_Name_Jeff said:

Me

I meant in RL

[My_Name_Jeff]

3 hours ago, Pavlin_33 said:

I meant in RL

True

[Tango3B]

Haven’t been following this thread for some time. Guys, the topic of this thread is a potentially wrong lead angle computation in all available A/A modes. Therefore it is completely irrelevant if anyone uses the gun to strafe ground targets with the 23-2 or if anyone feels the gun is mounted at a slightly awkward position. This is not the topic! Fortunately this thread is already marked „CHK“, so we should soon get an answer from DEKA. Thank you.