fixed Stuttering in Sinai-map

[hawa0835]

Stuttering occurs again, and it always in the Sinai-map.

[hawa0835]

Very strange, I try the same mission in Sinai-map, and suddenly most of the stuttering disappear, very strange, I do not know what it is.

[hawa0835]

I did a test with a fly over Cairo with the Ka-50 3, and no stuttering, but a lot with Ah-64, so much that you can't fly with it.

[The_Nephilim]

could you post a .trk file and your dcs log files??

[hawa0835]

Track and log.

Test Cairo Ka-50 3.trk Test Cairo Ah-64.trk dcs.log

[The_Nephilim]

OK I looked at the log and it appears you have a 8400CPU?? IF so that could be an issue somewhat depending on your option settings.. Did you try and use DLSS??

 

So if you please can you also post your DXDiag and screenshot of your settings? thank you..

[Flappie]

@hawa0835 Your pagefile is very small (3 GB).

2023-10-31 19:49:40.940 INFO    APP (Main): CPU cores: 6, threads: 6, System RAM: 32659 MB, Pagefile: 3443 MB

If you have enough room on your fastest drive, you could use a bigger pagefile. Here's a guide: https://mcci.com/support/guides/how-to-change-the-windows-pagefile-size/ (I suggest : min size = 32768 and max size = 32768). Just don't do it on a HDD (only on 2.5" SSD or NVMe drive).

I tried the tracks and had no performance issue.

[The_Nephilim]

yes the tracks played fine too for me as well. I did notice the smaller pagefile but wanted to see what system Hawa was using..

[Flappie]

10 hours ago, The_Nephilim said:

yes the tracks played fine too for me as well. I did notice the smaller pagefile but wanted to see what system Hawa was using..

I agree. The dxdiag log is very useful to investigate performance issues.

[hawa0835]

DxDiag.txt

[Flappie]

Thanks.

I see both DCS and your Saved Games folder are located on your system drive, which is the fastest you have, and it has more than enough free space. No problem here.

I see you have one HDD (D:\ and E:\) and one USD drive (G:\). I'd like to ensure your pagefile is not stored on any of them. Please run this command in a "cmd" window and paste the result here: wmic pagefile list

[hawa0835]

What command?

 

[Flappie]

wmic pagefile list

This command.

[hawa0835]

C:\Users\hawa0835>wmic pagefile list
AllocatedBaseSize  CurrentUsage  Description      InstallDate                Name             PeakUsage  Status  TempPageFile
3443               28            C:\pagefile.sys  20181123040309.552479+060  C:\pagefile.sys  1932               FALSE
 

[Flappie]

Good. Now is the time to try a bigger pagefile.

Follow this guide: https://mcci.com/support/guides/how-to-change-the-windows-pagefile-size/

Use min size = 32768 and max size = 32768.

[hawa0835]

I tested after changing the pagefile, but the problem still remains, and it is only with the AH-64.

[The_Nephilim]

Do you have a logitech gaming mouse?? if so what is the poll rate set at?

[hawa0835]

No i don't have a Logitech mouse. But a strange thing, i played some of my missions i Sinai, and it was almost no stuttering with the AH-64, and the strange thing was that i roll back the size of the pagefile. I think that the problem lie in the 2.9 update, the game work smoothly before that update.

[The_Nephilim]

2 hours ago, hawa0835 said:

No i don't have a Logitech mouse. But a strange thing, i played some of my missions i Sinai, and it was almost no stuttering with the AH-64, and the strange thing was that i roll back the size of the pagefile. I think that the problem lie in the 2.9 update, the game work smoothly before that update.

Well I have noticed that is the wierd thing with DCS and every update no matter what some users have no issues and some do.. now some find out it was their PC or some hardware issue.

 

If it was just 2.9 then everybody would experience it. I have a lesser PC then most in VR and I have no issues. I seen users with a 4090 say they have issues while I have a 1080ti and have no issues..

 

Not sure what is going on but it usually boils down to something on the user PC being the cause and there are numerous fixes I have not seen any one fix all solution. even then sometimes it is a couple issues combined that cause the issue..

 

It is usually something overlooked If I had any gumption I would sort out most of the common issues and make a thread on common issues.. I would sya keep searching.. but maybe you reached the limit of your CPU and while it worked in 2.8 maybe 2.9 was just too much IDK but it seems wierd..

[SloppyDog]

On 10/29/2023 at 1:10 PM, hawa0835 said:

Stuttering occurs again, and it always in the Sinai-map.

Did you have this problem before 2.9?

Yes, the Syria map is very heavy. It's amazingly detailed, but takes a toll in game performance.

This is how I solved most of the stuttering:

1) Let the map load. Yep, mission started, let it load, takes about 1 minute (yea, it sucks, I know...)

2) Check if your CPU is throttling up and down. I have a 10700K and it tries to get the best performance to run any game, so it tries to run the clock as high it can to achieve that. But the CPU reaches max temperature, so it has to throttle down in order to protect the CPU, but goes up again in order to best run the game, but has to throttle down to protect the CPU,  and so on and on. It was causing lots of stutters. And was making my CPU hotter than ever.

The way I solved it was by limiting the CPU power input by undervolting it. Now the CPU knows what limit it can reach, it works at the maximum established (limited) power during the game, so no more throttling, no more stutters. 

[hawa0835]

Very strange, I start with a free flight in Der-Ezzor, Syria, with a lot of stuttering, then, I exit DCS to desktop, start DCS again, fly the same flight, and no stuttering.

[hawa0835]

I did a long repair, and it seems to help a lot, some spikes, but a lot better than before, free flights over Cairo and Damascus.

[hawa0835]

Back in stable version for for the moment.

[Flappie]

The Sinai map flicker issue should be fixed with the next DCS update.

[Flappie]

This was fixed with today's update.