MIP setup

[Warlock99]

Thanks, really appreciate the help.

[Warlock99]

One additional item, the kit comes with 2 USB connectors per MFD, one of which is a USB c. I have tried it with both connectors  and with the USB A connector alone. I get screens working with the USB A alone and nothing with the USB C alone and there is no change I can see with both USB types connected at the same time. The MFD's show proper indications in DCS but are not functional nor can I assign key commands in DCS options/control settings. Additionally the light on the back is purple not green. Don't know if that matters but thought I'd let you know. Thanks again.

Edited June 25, 2024 by Warlock99
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[MustangSally]

The screens don't show in Simappro, only the mfd frames. The reason you can't see the frames is that you need to connect them via the usb c socket in the frame corner

[Warlock99]

I have both the usb a and the usb c connected, is that what I need or only the usb c?

If I disconnect the usb a I loose all 3 MFD's. If I disconnect the usb c I see no changes. I have both connected.

In-game I can see all 3 MFD's with correct information (F-18), but I am unable to assign control options in the DCS as they do not show up there in the listed devices. In Simpro the frames do not show up under the devices tab.

When I start Simpro I get "Warning MFD" error, will try to catch a screen shot and provide it to you. It pops up 3 times, I assume once for each MFD.

Edited June 26, 2024 by Warlock99
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[rob10]

4 hours ago, Warlock99 said:

I have both the usb a and the usb c connected, is that what I need or only the usb c?

If I disconnect the usb a I loose all 3 MFD's. If I disconnect the usb c I see no changes. I have both connected.

In-game I can see all 3 MFD's with correct information (F-18), but I am unable to assign control options in the DCS as they do not show up there in the listed devices. In Simpro the frames do not show up under the devices tab.

When I start Simpro I get "Warning MFD" error, will try to catch a screen shot and provide it to you. It pops up 3 times, I assume once for each MFD.

You should have (for each MFD) 1 x USB A plugged into the back of the SCREEN (that's all even though there are other slots) and 1 x USB C plugged into the bottom right of the FRAME.  It sounds like you don't have the frame with the buttons plugged in (it should light up).

Beyond that, what are you plugging this all into?  If you don't have a powered USB hub you may be short on power

[MustangSally]

5 hours ago, Warlock99 said:

I have both the usb a and the usb c connected, is that what I need or only the usb c?

If I disconnect the usb a I loose all 3 MFD's. If I disconnect the usb c I see no changes. I have both connected.

In-game I can see all 3 MFD's with correct information (F-18), but I am unable to assign control options in the DCS as they do not show up there in the listed devices. In Simpro the frames do not show up under the devices tab.

When I start Simpro I get "Warning MFD" error, will try to catch a screen shot and provide it to you. It pops up 3 times, I assume once for each MFD.

 

The USB A in the center is for the monitors, the USB c is for the frames.....with all the buttons. Go to the Winwing site and read the manual
https://au.winwingsim.com/view/regular.html

[Warlock99]

OK, finally figured out what you were trying to get me to understand. Did not realize there were 2 USB C connections. So, what is the USB C on the back of the MFD used for? I see nothing with a USB C plugged in it.

Really appreciate your patience with me. I like play the sims but , I'm a little slow with computers. Thanks again!!!

[rob10]

2 hours ago, Warlock99 said:

OK, finally figured out what you were trying to get me to understand. Did not realize there were 2 USB C connections. So, what is the USB C on the back of the MFD used for? I see nothing with a USB C plugged in it.

In the WinWing context it's used for nothing.  I think I recall reading somewhere that it would be supplemental power or something, but not for WinWing setup.  But you can ignore USB C in the back of the screen.

[Warlock99]

16 hours ago, rob10 said:

In the WinWing context it's used for nothing.  I think I recall reading somewhere that it would be supplemental power or something, but not for WinWing setup.  But you can ignore USB C in the back of the screen.

Thanks, appreciate the reponse.

[Warlock99]

OK, finally got everything up and running. I have the MFD showing with the frame keys working in the Control/Options section of DCS. When I press a key on any of the frames I get a corresponding indication by MFD (Left/Right/Center) as shown in the Control/Options section. But when I go in-game all inputs affect only the Left MFD regardless of which MFD I press a key on. Simpro shows all 3 MFD's in the proper position and they are properly positioned with in-game MFD's.

When I press a button on the game screen it is reflected on the WW MFD correctly.

Edited June 28, 2024 by Warlock99
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[rob10]

Did you assign the bindings in each of the 3 different columns in the DCS binding screen?  There should be one column for each of the Left, Centre and Right DDI frames and you'll need to assign them under the appropriate column.  BUT there are also separate BINDINGS for each of the 3 MFD's: i.e "Left MDI PB 1", "AMPCD PB 1" (for centre MFD) and "Right MDI PB 1".   It sounds like you're assigning all 3 to the "Left MDI PB 1"

 

[MustangSally]

4 hours ago, Warlock99 said:

OK, finally got everything up and running. I have the MFD showing with the frame keys working in the Control/Options section of DCS. When I press a key on any of the frames I get a corresponding indication by MFD (Left/Right/Center) as shown in the Control/Options section. But when I go in-game all inputs affect only the Left MFD regardless of which MFD I press a key on. Simpro shows all 3 MFD's in the proper position and they are properly positioned with in-game MFD's.

When I press a button on the game screen it is reflected on the WW MFD correctly.

 

https://youtu.be/wWxV3L0Cdp0?feature=shared

[Warlock99]

4 hours ago, rob10 said:

Did you assign the bindings in each of the 3 different columns in the DCS binding screen?  There should be one column for each of the Left, Centre and Right DDI frames and you'll need to assign them under the appropriate column.  BUT there are also separate BINDINGS for each of the 3 MFD's: i.e "Left MDI PB 1", "AMPCD PB 1" (for centre MFD) and "Right MDI PB 1".   It sounds like you're assigning all 3 to the "Left MDI PB 1"

 

Yes I did, when in the options/control I assigned buttons to all 3 MFD's. If I hit the #1 button across all 3 WinWing MFD's I see a coresponding jump to button 1 on each of the individual 3 MFD's in the options control screen for DCS. But when I go in game regardless of which WinWing MFD I press a button it only affects the left WinWing MFD. But if I press a button on the screen with the mouse the effect is seen on the corresponding/correct WinWing MFD.

Edited June 29, 2024 by Warlock99

[Trigati]

Sounds like you’ve not set them as L C or R in SimappPro, so they are all acting as the same device.


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[Warlock99]

11 hours ago, Trigati said:

Sounds like you’ve not set them as L C or R in SimappPro, so they are all acting as the same device.


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No, I did set up like that in SimappPro, although I've gone back in and found them changed back to all left a few times. Not sure if thats a bug/glitch or if it just happens occasionally.

Thanks.

16 hours ago, MustangSally said:

https://youtu.be/wWxV3L0Cdp0?feature=shared

Thanks. I have all 3 oy your videos on my desktop and find them very helpful. Haven't seen anything in the PT2 that addresses my issue. Still use them as reference/review.

[Warlock99]

Alright, I figured it out and the answer was right there in front of me the whole time. Thanks to everyone for your help with this.

[markturner1960]

I am setting mine up again and have hit a problem at the "Set MFD display"  stage...  In wondows display set up, they are correct and this is also true in the "select scaling and layout" stage.

However, in the "set MFD display" stage, the AMPCD and the RH MFD are transposed. I am unable to swap them using the drop down arrow, they are all red with a line through and wont accept any input.......

Any ideas? Thanks! 

Edited June 30, 2024 by markturner1960

[Warlock99]

IF I understand you correctly it, you need to select the blank space above the red indicators and de-select the MFD of the ones you want to change then re-select the ones you want and assign as needed.

[markturner1960]

Perfect, thanks buddy...

 

[markturner1960]

Update: remote assistance from winwing has solved this issue, thanks

[Jackjack171]

On 6/28/2024 at 11:48 AM, Warlock99 said:

OK, finally got everything up and running. I have the MFD showing with the frame keys working in the Control/Options section of DCS. When I press a key on any of the frames I get a corresponding indication by MFD (Left/Right/Center) as shown in the Control/Options section. But when I go in-game all inputs affect only the Left MFD regardless of which MFD I press a key on. Simpro shows all 3 MFD's in the proper position and they are properly positioned with in-game MFD's.

When I press a button on the game screen it is reflected on the WW MFD correctly.

 

How did you get the MFD tab to show up in Simapppro? I'm having the same issues. The MFD's show up in the control's options in DCS, as well as they appear in simapppro themselves, but I still have no way to make them stop displaying my desktop. Also, the light on the back of my MFD's is purple. I'm lost! 

[HanuXXL]

Just came here to say if someone has problems that the displays are not showing anything, but can be seen in device manager, the very likely problem is that you could have too old Displaylink drivers. Mine were from 2019 IIRC in my gaming rig where windows installation is originally quite old. They were not updated for example when I went from Win 10 -> Win 11.

https://www.synaptics.com/products/displaylink-graphics/downloads/windows
 

Windows could not find any update for these, but as I troubleshooted I noticed that displays were working on my gaming laptop and it had newer drivers. So I downloaded those and after driver update the displays started working fine.

[Jackjack171]

On 10/1/2024 at 11:05 PM, HanuXXL said:

Just came here to say if someone has problems that the displays are not showing anything, but can be seen in device manager, the very likely problem is that you could have too old Displaylink drivers. Mine were from 2019 IIRC in my gaming rig where windows installation is originally quite old. They were not updated for example when I went from Win 10 -> Win 11.

https://www.synaptics.com/products/displaylink-graphics/downloads/windows
 

Windows could not find any update for these, but as I troubleshooted I noticed that displays were working on my gaming laptop and it had newer drivers. So I downloaded those and after driver update the displays started working fine.

Hi,

My monitor is not showing in the Displaylink manager. The 2 MFD's are but they say "disconnected." I've downloaded the current drivers. Still nothing. In SimAppPro, I am stuck at the "set game screen" step as nothing will show there at all. I'm not sure what is going on! At this point, I'm desperate for some help!

[MustangSally]

Ensure you have them plugged in correctly, then follow my tutorial

When I say correctly, follow the manual and ensure they are plugged into USB3 outlets

Edited October 4, 2024 by MustangSally

[Jackjack171]

1 minute ago, MustangSally said:

Ensure you have them plugged in correctly, then follow my tutorial

 

I have ad nauseum. Same results! I'm left wondering if it is a software thing on my end. Nothing that I have in the Display manager shows up in the Displaylink manager nor SimAppPro. The MFD's are there and working. I can manipulate the buttons, just cannot get them to work in game.

8 minutes ago, MustangSally said:

Ensure you have them plugged in correctly, then follow my tutorial

 

Thank you BTW!