Scott-S6 Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 I'm looking for a high quality dual throttle. As long as it has a good enough selection of controls to be versatile, I don't really care what it's a replica of (or if it's a replica of anything). I'm currently using a Virpil CM3 which is fine for the mix of controls it provides and the software is great but the hats, buttons and grip could all be be better. I'm also not a fan of the very short arm which causes it to rotate excessively through it's travel. I've had WW and TM, underwhelmed. Is there a higher end option that I'm not considering who are actually willing to sell to private individuals? For some context in terms of quality, I'm happy with realsimulator and virtualfly. I'm hoping that the falcon matters EF throttle will actually happen and be what I'm looking for but in the mean time, any ideas?
Mr_sukebe Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 I’m unaware of anything commonly sold that I’d expect to be better than a CM3. Options that spring to mind: - have a dig around to see about the viability of one of the real throttles. Likely to be seriously expensive - upgrade the buttons in the CM3 - there’s a chap called GVL on here who sells custom gear. If you engage with him, he might be able to build what you want, eg: - wait until the CM4 arrives, it’ll happen eventually 7800x3d, 5080, 64GB, PCIE5 SSD - Oculus Pro - Moza (AB9), Virpil (Alpha, CM3, CM1 and CM2), WW (TOP and CP), TM (MFDs, Pendular Rudder), Tek Creations (F18 panel), Total Controls (Apache MFD), Jetseat
Scott-S6 Posted December 9, 2023 Author Posted December 9, 2023 Few good options for a real one - newer stuff can't be acquired legitimately and the older stuff has far fewer controls on it. I'm pretty sure the CM4 will have basically the same problems. The CM1-3 are all minor iterations on the same design and some of the problems are inherent to it being usable on a desktop which isn't going to change. Thanks for the suggestion re GVL but if I can't find something suitable I'll make my own.
Mr_sukebe Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 Another thought, could you buy a real throttle from a broken aircraft, then have it modified with your preference of buttons and an arduino board? Just because it might have originally had a low number of buttons, doesn’t necessarily stop you from adding more functionally capable ones. 7800x3d, 5080, 64GB, PCIE5 SSD - Oculus Pro - Moza (AB9), Virpil (Alpha, CM3, CM1 and CM2), WW (TOP and CP), TM (MFDs, Pendular Rudder), Tek Creations (F18 panel), Total Controls (Apache MFD), Jetseat
Nightdare Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 6 hours ago, Scott-S6 said: I'm hoping that the falcon matters EF throttle will actually happen and be what I'm looking for but in the mean time, any ideas? Latest activity on Reddit was six months ago and their site seems to be unregistered, so if you're saving up for that, there's a big chance you'll be saving a long time (But at least you'll have saved enough for a real HOTAS at a certain point ) Intel I5 13600k / AsRock Z790 Steel Legend / MSI 4080s 16G Gaming X Slim / Kingston Fury DDR5 5600 64Gb / Adata 960 Max / HP Reverb G2 v2 Rhino FFB / Virpil MT50 Mongoost T50 Throttle, T50cm Grip, VFX Grip, ACE Rudder / WinWing Orion2 Navy, UFC&HUD, PTO2, 2x MFD1, PFP7 / Logitech Flight Panel / VKB SEM V / 2x DIY Bodnar Button Panels
Mr_sukebe Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 Here we go, what about a real Tornado throttle unit: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/394860342264?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=Osuisr6dQ8O&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=Hal1pJpJTxq&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY clearly it needs some work, and that’s before replacing the buttons, axes, wiring and control board, but how cool would that be? 7800x3d, 5080, 64GB, PCIE5 SSD - Oculus Pro - Moza (AB9), Virpil (Alpha, CM3, CM1 and CM2), WW (TOP and CP), TM (MFDs, Pendular Rudder), Tek Creations (F18 panel), Total Controls (Apache MFD), Jetseat
Scott-S6 Posted December 9, 2023 Author Posted December 9, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nightdare said: Latest activity on Reddit was six months ago and their site seems to be unregistered, so if you're saving up for that, there's a big chance you'll be saving a long time (But at least you'll have saved enough for a real HOTAS at a certain point ) I follow their discord, there's been some more recent news than that. It's not looking great but they're trying to save the project. If RS ever make their throttle available, I'll buy one. It's not ideal, not being a dual throttle, I could make use of it. ETA RS page says new products being announced shortly. 1 hour ago, Mr_sukebe said: Here we go, what about a real Tornado throttle unit: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/394860342264?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=Osuisr6dQ8O&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=Hal1pJpJTxq&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY clearly it needs some work, and that’s before replacing the buttons, axes, wiring and control board, but how cool would that be? Look at the controls on the throttle - a couple of buttons, one hat, one toggle. It's basically useless. There's a reason that they've been trying to sell that for months. Might be okay for the F5, not for anything more modern. Easier to start from scratch than make that into a versatile throttle for gen4/4+ aircraft - the grip isn't large enough or appropriately shaped to accommodate a bunch of additional controls. Edited December 9, 2023 by Scott-S6
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