reported Power Lever in CPG cockpit jittering

[Loophole]

So, for the last few versions I have started to get an issue with the Power Levers when in the CPG cockpit:

• I have "Power: Both" bound to an analogue axis for AH-64D CP/G
• There is no other axis bound to that function for AH-64D CP/G
• There are no DirectX button binds for any of the Power Lever actions
• There are no axis binds or DirectX button binds for any of the Power Lever actions for AH-64D Pilot.
• The axis input shows as smooth and non-jittery under Tune Combo Axis, so I don't think there is any real noise.

When the Power Lever axis is at 100%, the lever is stable and in the "Fly" position.

If I position the Power Lever axis anywhere between 100% and 0%, the lever position in the cockpit jitters by  maybe 10-20%, and always towards the FLY position from where I have the lever actually set.

If I pull the Power Lever axis back to 0%, the Power Lever position jumps immediately up to the FLY position and stays there.

It is acting as if some other binding is trying to push the lever to 100%, but as I said, there does not appear to be any other binding for that axis.

Furthermore, if I remove the CPG binding, then go to the pilot position and re-bind the same axis in the same way for the pilot's Power Levers, they work fine and smoothly - the problem seems to be unique to the CPG position.  I wonder if George-as-pilot might be trying to push the levers up to 100% when they shouldn't be allowed to?  If while CPG I hand control over to George-as-pilot, he certainly does push the power levers back up to FLY immediately (but then I'd expect him to do that)

My CPG axis bindings, just for reference...

[Lord Vader]

Hi @Loophole

Can you please wait for the next Open Beta update and try again? 

Thanks. 

[Loophole]

Mate, I am *desperately* waiting for the next open beta!   I want to get my hands on that FCR!   I will also let you know how the power lever is behaving!

 

[Loophole]

@Lord Vader, thank you for releasing the new open beta a day earlier than expected.  You didn't need to do it just because I asked, but I appreciate it!

Sadly, the Power Lever issue seems to still be evident in the new open beta.

George has also developed some piloting issues, but I'll start a new thread for that if nobody else has mentioned it yet.

 

[BIGNEWY]

please include a track replay showing the issue with the jitter, we are not seeing the problem when we test. 

If you are seeing other issues please use a different thread to report them with track replays.

thank you

[Loophole]

I've captured a video showing both the physical actuation of the control, and the in-game response.  For this I used a windowed copy of DCS, and explicitly cleared ALL bindings for all my HOTAS devices, then only bound the one axis to Power Lever (both); initially for just CPG, and then after confirming the issue still replicated I also bound it for the Pilot then captured this video.

I was using the standard Instant-Action "Ready for Takeoff" mission, and running the Multi-Threaded open beta.

I was not able to save a TRK file of the mission - when I tried to save it at the end it reported an error that it couldn't read the LastMission.trk file, and after checking in the reported folder I confirmed that the file did not exist - don't know what was going on there.  I thought I would upload the video for you first, before trying to re-capture a TRK file.  It will be interesting to see if a TRK captures the control jittering.

Video file is here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ih0qyv3avuz7ru/VID_20231221_152649.mp4?dl=1

 

I forgot to attach the Config files I used in the above test, just in case they are relevant.  Here they are...

Input.zip

[Loophole]

Ok, I re-did the test using my "normal" DCS configuration rather than the windowed setup I use for mission editing.  I just used my standard control bindings in this case, as the previous test that I videoed seems to have eliminated "other bindings" as a potential source of the issue.  This time the TRK file saved just fine - see attached.  Let me know if there are any other tests or data you would like from me.

POWERLEVER.trk

When I replayed the Trk file it clearly reproduced the "jittering" I am seeing.

[Akenar-99]

For information. I have exactlly the same problem for a few month.

Only on the CPG seat.

And even after the last update.

[Kegzie]

Same here. like something else is bound but I cant see anything else that's bound to the power levers.

[Astralnut]

Same thing happens to me. I have both levers bound to my Virpil Throttle. One lever does left one lever does right. Worked perfectly until this patch. Now nothing happens until the levers are at 50% then they jump to 50%, then they jump to past the fly position and I get an ENGINE OUT Warning. This has to be a bug because it worked fine before and noting on my end has changed.

[Astralnut]

Well, I found out the Virpil Mongoose TM50 cable had two pins dead in it. So that is one thing that went haywire. I haven't tried without the throttles, now that the Kiowa is out.

Got back in and mapped the twist throttle to both power levers. They moved together but not really smooth but also not unpredictable jittery. However, if I move the throttle all the way to the lock out position it blows up the engines, so that has to be a bug.

Edited June 7, 2024 by Astralnut

[Loophole]

Power Lever jittering for the CPG still occurs in the current version: 2.9.5.55918

 

[Lord Vader]

Hello all. We're aware of this issue and we're working internally to fix it alongside other items with multi-crew.

Thanks for your patience.