correct as is Improperly Scaled 3D Pilots (with comparison pics)

[JG27_Arklight]

The 3D Pilot figures seem to be out of scale (too small? or too short?) on the Apache. Hope this helps! I did my best get pics/screens that best presented what Im trying to show.

 

See below for reference pics:

Reality vs DCS

Pilot seat height...they can barely see over the dash + look at the size of the real pilots compared to DCS

Next up, look at the height and scale from reality vs DCS in this side view. Look at the height of the CP/G's helmet relative to the seat in reality as compared to DCS:

 

Another few pictures from Reality vs DCS (side view):

[BIGNEWY]

Hi JG27_Arklight, 

thank you for the post, I have spoken to the team and they are happy with the current sizes.

It should be noted that pilots are different sizes in real life also, and event things like helmet size can be different ( small to extra large ). Seat position can also be adjusted which can effect the look of the pilots position. 

best regards 

bignewy

[JG27_Arklight]

7 hours ago, BIGNEWY said:

Hi JG27_Arklight, 

thank you for the post, I have spoken to the team and they are happy with the current sizes.

It should be noted that pilots are different sizes in real life also, and event things like helmet size can be different ( small to extra large ). Seat position can also be adjusted which can effect the look of the pilots position. 

best regards 

bignewy

Thanks for the response and for looking into it, Bignewy! 

 

Edited December 19, 2023 by JG27_Arklight

[AirSenpai]

The camera angle, focal point /zoom / lens size/depth of field etc also the height of the photo vs screenshot also plays into the equation.
try comparing from a lower angle as if someone was taking a picture. The pilots would look taller on the cockpit.

Made them look a bit taller from my pov.
F4 camera used . Mouse /track ir + [*] and [/]controls were used.
I know i am not a tall girl (1meter 59cm tall) but the apache is huge !! so the pilots! tried to calculate the average 1m80cm height of a tall person ( ground crew pov)
 

[Lord Vader]

Just some common sense into the mix. If I was an AH-64D pilot (or any other helicopter), I would privilege sight as best as I could, considering my "HUD" is already detached from the panel. So maybe while using the systems I would hunch down a bit, but I would certainly crank the seat all the way up to guarantee maximum visibility. Would the designer/manufacturer/instructors advise that? Probably not. But in the end, the seats aren't fixed and allow a customized position.

In a simulation, any simulation, you depict standards, though. Remember that. 

[JG27_Arklight]

3 hours ago, Lord Vader said:

Just some common sense into the mix. If I was an AH-64D pilot (or any other helicopter), I would privilege sight as best as I could, considering my "HUD" is already detached from the panel. So maybe while using the systems I would hunch down a bit, but I would certainly crank the seat all the way up to guarantee maximum visibility. Would the designer/manufacturer/instructors advise that? Probably not. But in the end, the seats aren't fixed and allow a customized position.

In a simulation, any simulation, you depict standards, though. Remember that. 

I understand, and its really the standards I've noticed. Literally every pic I've seen and found seems to be different than what we see in game. The figures just look....small. I actually haven't been able to find a picture that looks like what he have in game at all (I've searched high and low).

It caught my attention and I noticed some folks in another forum talking about it as well so thought I'd point it out. 

[bradmick]

On 1/12/2024 at 6:20 AM, Lord Vader said:

Just some common sense into the mix. If I was an AH-64D pilot (or any other helicopter), I would privilege sight as best as I could, considering my "HUD" is already detached from the panel. So maybe while using the systems I would hunch down a bit, but I would certainly crank the seat all the way up to guarantee maximum visibility. Would the designer/manufacturer/instructors advise that? Probably not. But in the end, the seats aren't fixed and allow a customized position.

In a simulation, any simulation, you depict standards, though. Remember that. 

As an actual 64 pilot I drop my seat down low for comfort. I raise the seat to the design eye position, and then I drop the seat down thereafter to make operating the collective easier, and to prioritize comfort. The helicopter is massively uncomfortable by default, you learn to work with limited visibility by leveraging manual stabilator and the pnvs during daylight hours.