Multimonitor question

[Mr_Blastman]

Two questions actually.

 

One, this file here:

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=568729&postcount=22

 

Can't be had anymore.

 

I want the camera on the left monitor and the ABRIS on the right monitor. I don't know what to do.

 

Second question:

 

I want the Abris to be displayed longways rather than shortways - i.e. flip the X/Y Axes of the display so if the monitor was sitting on the desk, it would look like the ABRIS was being displayed on its side rather than top to bottom. The reason for this is I have a mini portable display and I want the top side of the ABRIS to be on the 768 Axis and the long side to be on the 1024 Axis.

 

Does this make sense? How do I do this?

 

Third (I'm cheating), is there a way to do multi-monitor without having Nview span my desktop in XP?

[Mr_Blastman]

Okay? Nobody? I see people doing multimonitor stuff here, but I can't find an instruction guide on it.

[deadsmell]

Give the community a little time, im sure someone will be along to help answer your question. Just be patient. :)

[Mr_Blastman]

Okay, I got it working! I had to use a phantom monitor fix .exe to make it work???

 

Anyways, my config files are as follows:

 

options.lua:

 

["graphics"] =

{

["multiMonitorSetup"] = "modified",

["color"] = "32",

["heatBlr"] = 1,

["scenes"] = "high",

["water"] = 2,

["fullScreen"] = false,

["visibRange"] = "Medium",

["aspect"] = 1.3333333333333,

["textures"] = 2,

["shadows"] = 3,

["display_mode"] =

{

["avi"] =

{

["bpp"] = 32,

["resolution"] = "640x480",

["full_screen"] = false,

["aspect"] = 1.333333333,

["height"] = 480,

["width"] = 640,

}, -- end of ["avi"]

}, -- end of ["display_mode"]

["effects"] = 3,

["lights"] = 2,

["haze"] = 1,

["terrPrld"] = "20",

["height"] = 1024,

["resolution"] = "2048x1024",

["civTraffic"] = 0,

["width"] = 2048,

}, -- end of ["graphics"]

 

 

and modified.lua:

 

Description = 'modified'

Viewports =

{

Center =

{

x = 0;

y = 0;

width = 1280;

height = 960;

}

}

ABRIS =

{

x = 1280;

y = 0;

width = 768;

height = 1024;

}

 

Windows setup is as follows:

NView Multimonitor setup with independent screens (it is called DualView)

2nd screen I did a reverse portrait rotation so it displays at 768x1024x60hz

 

1st screen I have set at 1280x960x75hz

 

So you run this phantom monitor fix, have those config files setup correctly as above, and I get a vertical ABRIS in portrait mode on my left screen and the game on my right.

 

The only problem is my framerate has gone to poop. Royally. Like, taken a big turd.

 

Any ideas? (I'll be shocked if I see a reply)

 

My system specs:

 

Q9450

2 Gigs RAM

260 GTX

Windows XP, SP 2

 

I have a pretty fast system, right? It should be able to hack this just fine. Funny thing is, if I run it in cloneview, I get a much better framerate, but, I can not set the second monitor to portrait view which makes the ABRIS so sexy. Also, I notice that if I try to run fullscreen mode when in Portrait Dualview mode, it crashes.

 

If I run fullscreen without any dualscreens, it works fine and the framerate is great at maxxed out detail. (well, nearly maxxed).

 

So, beyond anyone giving me the magic answer to fix the framerate - it SHOULD be really high regardless of that second screen, here is a second question to add to the mess:

 

Is there a way to export instruments to a second computer, say, similar to F4 GLASS that we use for Falcon 4.0. I could use my laptop to display the goodies and not get a framerate hit at all.

 

After all, it is only data being pumped out over the network.

Edited March 28, 2009 by Mr_Blastman

[G3]

you could try Mnemonic's "LOVP", lockon virtual panel.:thumbup:

 

ps: on release of a local version dvd i will be getting right into

the multimonitor side of things, looking forward to pulling my hair out too :)

Edited March 28, 2009 by G3

[BlackTalon]

Are they gonna make this easier to setup in the next patch?

[Mr_Blastman]

I'll have to check out LOVP - from the looks of it though, I don't think it will work with DCS.

 

I'm most concerned about the framerate. I have an ULTRA smooth framerate without doing the ABRIS multimonitor thing. As soon as I do it though, I get hosed framerate-wise.

 

Is everyone else getting hosed?

[S77th-RYKE]

I'll have to check out LOVP - from the looks of it though, I don't think it will work with DCS.

 

I'm most concerned about the framerate. I have an ULTRA smooth framerate without doing the ABRIS multimonitor thing. As soon as I do it though, I get hosed framerate-wise.

 

Is everyone else getting hosed?

 

even in single monitor turning on the Shkval rubs me of a lot of fps

 

going to 2 displays is worse because it taxes the system a bit more even , try lowering a few setings maybe .

[Mr_Blastman]

Okay, I give up. I can't get the framerate up and this stinks because all I'm doing is exporting a darned panel - which is bull. It should not take more than a +50% hit on framerate. There is just no way.

 

Implausible.

 

Inconceivable.

 

Impossible I say!

 

It is as if DCS has eaten some Iocane powder and now it is falling flat on its face. :-\

[S77th-RYKE]

Okay, I give up. I can't get the framerate up and this stinks because all I'm doing is exporting a darned panel - which is bull. It should not take more than a +50% hit on framerate. There is just no way.

 

Implausible.

 

Inconceivable.

 

Impossible I say!

 

It is as if DCS has eaten some Iocane powder and now it is falling flat on its face. :-\

 

your system should handle it , but from tons of testimonials here , XP has lower performance than Vista (I hate vista but love it for BS)

 

only Vista benefits from the core affinity trick .

 

your solution is to turn down stuff starting with water , heat blur , shadows ...

 

good luck

 

P.S. I was also getting lower frame rates with 2 monitors , the only good news is I get the same fps going to 3 monitors .

[Mr_Blastman]

Well, that makes me feel a little better then when I get the 3 monitor fresnel setup going. :)

 

Am I correct in hearing that the next patch will fix multicore support for XP?

[Mr_Blastman]

Not a SINGLE comment by a member of the ED team or one of the beta crew. Wow, this is really reassuring.

 

At least with FreeFalcon 5 or OpenFalcon I would have more than received a few comments about something like this.

[Giant2111]

As far as I know, there will be no MC-support for XP, cause it does not support MC really well. Check out the DCSMax-Thread http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=39261, to figure out, if you will benefit from it.

 

Regards

[Mr_Blastman]

And _that_ is a pile of poop!

 

XP uses multicore MORE than well enough, as is evident in _many_ multicore games that I have on my system right now.

 

Flight Simulator X - saw a HUGE framerate increase when it properly supported multicore. Supreme Commander saw a HUGE framerate increase as well. Team Fortress 2 did also. I could go on all day long, but there is nothing wrong with XP's multicore implementation at all. It works just swell.

 

The thing I am referring to is possibly a developers comment a while back where they mentioned that someone somewhere screwed up _ONE_ line of DCS code which screwed up multicore support for all XP users.

 

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2684529/Re_Patch_1_0_1_Info.html#Post2684529

 

There is no excuse at all for XP Multicore support to not be worth a darn.

 

Period.

 

I would like some clarification on this comment and whether it also pertains to XP users who rightfullly deserve proper implementation and proper speed increase benefits from using their additional cores. XP is based off of Windows 2000 which was a Server OS and XP is a newer, improved version of it. 2000 most definitely had proper multicore support as it was used on servers around the world running multiple processors. This multicore thing isn't new, multiple processors have been around for years - heck, I remember back in college in 1993 we had a server on campus running 16 386 cores, granted, it was using Solaris as the operating system.

 

I would like clarification please. :)

 

Now, back to our regularly scheduled programming. I would like to see some ED People comment on the multimonitor stuff I have posted, especially when it comes to:

 

a. framerate

b. Exporting instruments such as ABRIS via something like f4glass to a second computer to take the load off.

Edited March 30, 2009 by Mr_Blastman

[GGTharos]

Maybe you should read the rest of the forum, then.

Multi-threating will be added when it'll be added. It's in the plan, with no specific ETA. No, it won't be in the A-10 module, AFAIK.

 

Not a SINGLE comment by a member of the ED team or one of the beta crew. Wow, this is really reassuring.

 

At least with FreeFalcon 5 or OpenFalcon I would have more than received a few comments about something like this.

[Mr_Blastman]

Why, in Vista, does it provide a performance increase then and not in XP if there is no multithreading? By definition, multithreading is a programming/processor method which is interchangeable between operating systems.

 

If Vista is seeing improvement, I would say there is some sort of multithreading already there - or not? Am I wrong?

 

I can realize this takes time on ED's part, both in man hours and money, but the majority of people flying simulators use XP still due to older sims having serious problems with Vista and above.

[GGTharos]

It wasn't something intentional - while I don't recall the technical details, no, you will not get a boost on XP; I recall something about DX being unintentionally (but serendipitously) split off and probably Vista didn't handle it correctly with respect to DCS from the start - and XP did.

 

That, however, is an assumption on my part and nothing more.

[flyinghigh]

When SHkval+camera+ABRIS seleted it just splits screen into three.In FS2004 one just undocks & drag onto other screen,what do you do in BS?

 

I run front view ,Th2go,off one graphics card & two screens off a second graphics card on the same machine.

 

Any clues?

 

Flyinghigh