dummies and decoys: inflatable tanks, planes and rocket launchers

[bumfire]

http://gizmodo.com/5048269/russia-builds-up-inflatable-military-decoys

 

I saw a site not that long ago that had heaps of russian inflatable decoys, I just cant seem to remember where I saw them, but even though they were inflatable, they looked really cool and I want some :)

[CE_Mikemonster]

Hahaha some funny comments on there

[Groove]

Can we please get back to russian rubber wapon fakes?

 

I have deleted all the political chit-chat. Im getting tired of this political discussions which derails threads lately. It seems like im forced to start issuing warnings to get rid of this misbehaviour some of you guys show lately !

 

:mad:

[AlexHunter]

That made me laugh out loud, thanks!

 

 

Honestly you would not bankrupt your opponent by making them fire twice as many missiles at fake tanks.

These decoys (if they are as good as claimed) would be useful, but for other reasons which i'm sure you could point out Hajduk.

 

 

Logic says that the situation where these decoys would be used would either be:

 

1). Full scale war.

- You will not bankrupt your oppenent using decoys because modern wars happen so fast that ammunition produced after the start of hostilities would probably only arrive in-theatre after land or air superiority had been won.

 

or

 

2). A prolonged bombing campaign against a small/vulnerable state (with full air superiority to the aggressor).

- You will not bankrupt NATO in this circumstance (as was proved by operation Allied Force). You stand just as little chance of bankrupting the United States.

- They may run low on weapon stocks [NOT RELEVANT TO MY/THIS POINT please don't start a new argument topic] but that is NOT the same as 'bankrupting' themselves.

 

 

 

The cold war was not a 'war', it was a confrontation. The USSR was bankrupted, but not because it was actively 'fighting' a war. NATO decoys made no contribution to it's bankrupcy.

 

HaHa:), the Globe has long looked, behold, there is a country like Russia - and how fast? :). Such false goal that by fenov in the infrared range, and corner reflector in the radar bands like this - a good thing. With them you can put the enemy to false conclusions about the defense and the army of real action that will lead to incorrect analysis of the situation assessment of threats and force to act as advantageous to us, that is predictable. As the Suvorov-«surprise, then win!» "-«Удивить, значит победить!» "

 

Sorry, to use the electronic translator.

[CE_Mikemonster]

Да они были бы очень полезны для создания путаницы в НАТО, однако, как хорошо для НАТО разведывательных найти в электронном виде?

 

Если НАТО сделали знаю правильный сайт для ложного полку, но не сказать, Россия .. удивлению сторнируется. Сербские военные однако сделал хорошую работу на недопущение НАТО, так что мне делать удивительно ..

 

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[Namenlos Ein]

Да они были бы очень полезны для создания путаницы в НАТО, однако, как хорошо для НАТО разведывательных найти в электронном виде?

 

Если НАТО сделали знаю правильный сайт для ложного полку, но не сказать, Россия .. удивлению сторнируется. Сербские военные однако сделал хорошую работу на недопущение НАТО, так что мне делать удивительно ..

 

(Переводчик Google)

[off]To me it looks like Google Encipher instead Google Translate.[/off]

[CE_Mikemonster]

Hahaha yeah, I translated it back from Russian to English using the same translator and it was a bit gibberish, but i'd already posted :(

[Force_Feedback]

Да они были бы очень полезны для создания путаницы в НАТО, однако, как хорошо для НАТО разведывательных найти в электронном виде?

 

Если НАТО сделали знаю правильный сайт для ложного полку, но не сказать, Россия .. удивлению сторнируется. Сербские военные однако сделал хорошую работу на недопущение НАТО, так что мне делать удивительно ..

 

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Seems like you were using some very powerful psychotropics there buddy. :D

 

Ah, the joy of translators...

 

Forget it, if you don't know the language better wait for a real translation because the machine translators can't do english -> russian, english -> french perhaps, but russian has slightly more difficult grammar than 'our' (european) languages.

 

Those inflatable tanks are funny, I imagine seeing a grainy video from a UAV, and a tank flying off due to a gust :D

[nscode]

The best effect you can get out of the decoy is to make the pilot think if it is a decoy. With all the things he has to think about, he doesn't need one more. So if he's smart, he simply won't. That's one reason they are so effective. A missile is expensive, but a plane and pilot put in danger are even more expensive.

[JaNk0]

Are there more pictures from Serbian decoys?

P.S. Good article

Edited April 7, 2009 by JaNk0

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

Are there more pictures from Serbian decoys?

P.S. Good article

You can go to Youtube to see MiG-29 decoys. Search for the "204 Ratni Dnevnik" documentary. Decoys were very effective to the point that the real MiG-29 were not targeted any more.

[JaNk0]

I have the video, already seen it :)

[Yskonyn]

When I saw the title of this thread a few days ago I thought it was some kind of funny joke-type-of-story, but now that this thread has become several pages long I couldn't resist my curiosity. :)

My smile slowly changed to unbelief... What the... inflatable military hardware?!

:D

 

So seriously, grown up men and women are shooting rockets at inflatable dummies? I guess people do keep the same habits throughout their lives. Where you would use a pea-shooter at a balloon when you were little, this apparently evolves into rockets at an inflatable tank when you're grown up!

Edited April 12, 2009 by Yskonyn