TBear Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 (edited) Hallo everybody, since latest patch DCS 2.9.3.51704 , I'm experiencing a continous micro stuttering that was not current before. I tryed different settings, but is always there both with all put to maximum or to minimum and regardless any scenery (tryed both Syria and Caucasus with same number of objects inside. I use standard x4 anti aliasing. I attach my pc specs and my usual video settings. thank You in advance for any kind of help. Sistema.bmp Edited February 25 by TBear Mission designer with...drumroll.... MOOSE https://flightcontrol-master.github.io/MOOSE_DOCS/ skin artist at: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=183217 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 (edited) Try this: Browse to "Saved Games/DCS..." Rename your Scripts folder to Scripts.bak Run DCS and see if the issue persists. Edited February 25 by Flappie Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution TBear Posted February 25 Author Solution Share Posted February 25 (edited) Yes ! It worked! No more stutters. Thank You very much ! But what happen now with those scripts? P.S. Here are the results...never had those performance in 10 years of flying DCS. 60 (Vsinc) rock stable FPS with 0 stuttering using DCS liberation. Edited February 25 by TBear Mission designer with...drumroll.... MOOSE https://flightcontrol-master.github.io/MOOSE_DOCS/ skin artist at: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=183217 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 31 minutes ago, TBear said: Yes ! It worked! No more stutters. Thank You very much ! But what happen now with those scripts? Great! I vet this is caused by a script conflict, possibly involving WinWing scripts. Please attach the Export.lua file found in your Scripts.bak folder (FYI, the Scripts folder contains external scripts, not ED's). 1 Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadKreator Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 WinWings scripts in the export.lua always caused performance issues on my system (when I first used WW)… Unless anyone really NEEDS simappro, best to scrap it and delete the lines in the export.lua 1 Intel i7 13700k, ASUS rog strix z790A, 64gigs G.Skill Trident DDR5 @6400Mhz, Nvidia RTX 4080FE, 2x 2TB Samsung M.2 NVME, 2x 1TB Samsung SSD, Corsair RM1000x, Corsair h100i 240mm cooler, Lian Li LanCool 3, VKB Gunfighter Ultimate, VKB STECS , MFG Crosswinds, Track IR5, 48” LG UltraGear OLED & HP 24” touchscreen for Helios, Streamdeck XL, DCS-UFC App, Corsair Virtuoso RGB Headphones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob10 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 6 hours ago, MadKreator said: WinWings scripts in the export.lua always caused performance issues on my system (when I first used WW)… Unless anyone really NEEDS simappro, best to scrap it and delete the lines in the export.lua I don't completely disagree with that sentiment, but if you want light syncing you need it. And depending how long ago you were using it, it really has come a long way in terms of performance hit since the early days, so I would definitely at least try it and see how it works on your system. The other thing that can make a difference is the order of things in the export.lua. Preferred order (if you have them) would be: TacView WinWing SRS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 A friend told me how to prevent SimAppPro to move the "wwt" lines back on top of the Export.lua file. You need to enable this: 1 Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadKreator Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 (edited) 8 hours ago, rob10 said: I don't completely disagree with that sentiment, but if you want light syncing you need it. And depending how long ago you were using it, it really has come a long way in terms of performance hit since the early days, so I would definitely at least try it and see how it works on your system. The other thing that can make a difference is the order of things in the export.lua. Preferred order (if you have them) would be: TacView WinWing SRS It’s been a while now (3+ years). All I had was the original Orion F-18 throttle (currently VKB STECS) so light syncing didn’t bug me. It’s not like it was the worst thing ever but I did notice performance benefits after even just commenting it. However I wouldn’t have deemed it “unplayable” by any means. Glad to hear they’ve optimized it since then! I do like WinWing equipment. These days Helios is priority for me. It gets the number one spot in the export.lua always I think it’s to be expected that any sort of pilings up of programs in the export.lua will need some tuning on most systems. Helios can be a massive resource hog itself. I’ve been lucky and it runs well for me but I’ve seen many users struggle to get the performance they want. I would imagine it’s the same with WW, Tacview, DCS-UFC, DCS-BIOS, Streamdeck etc. Anything that is really pushing a lot of information back and forth. Edited February 26 by MadKreator 1 Intel i7 13700k, ASUS rog strix z790A, 64gigs G.Skill Trident DDR5 @6400Mhz, Nvidia RTX 4080FE, 2x 2TB Samsung M.2 NVME, 2x 1TB Samsung SSD, Corsair RM1000x, Corsair h100i 240mm cooler, Lian Li LanCool 3, VKB Gunfighter Ultimate, VKB STECS , MFG Crosswinds, Track IR5, 48” LG UltraGear OLED & HP 24” touchscreen for Helios, Streamdeck XL, DCS-UFC App, Corsair Virtuoso RGB Headphones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBear Posted February 28 Author Share Posted February 28 On 2/25/2024 at 5:19 PM, Flappie said: Great! I vet this is caused by a script conflict, possibly involving WinWing scripts. Please attach the Export.lua file found in your Scripts.bak folder (FYI, the Scripts folder contains external scripts, not ED's). Here It is Export.lua Mission designer with...drumroll.... MOOSE https://flightcontrol-master.github.io/MOOSE_DOCS/ skin artist at: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=183217 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 WinWing is not involved this time (no "wwt" in the Export.lua) : local dcsSr=require('lfs');dofile(dcsSr.writedir()..[[Scripts\DCS-SimpleRadioStandalone.lua]]) dofile(lfs.writedir()..[[Scripts\DCS-BIOS\BIOS.lua]]) local Tacviewlfs=require('lfs');dofile(Tacviewlfs.writedir()..'Scripts/TacviewGameExport.lua') local TheWayLfs=require('lfs'); dofile(TheWayLfs.writedir()..'Scripts/TheWay.lua') You can try this: Rename "Scripts.bak" to "Scripts". Edit your Export.lua. and comment the first line (SRS) by prefixing it with two dashes. Check DCS performance. If it's still laggy, uncomment the SRS line and comment the second line. And so on... until you find the culprit. When the culprit is found, move the line to the bottom of the file then uncomment it, and check if it fixes your performance issue. The example below disables the SRS call: --local dcsSr=require('lfs');dofile(dcsSr.writedir()..[[Scripts\DCS-SimpleRadioStandalone.lua]]) dofile(lfs.writedir()..[[Scripts\DCS-BIOS\BIOS.lua]]) local Tacviewlfs=require('lfs');dofile(Tacviewlfs.writedir()..'Scripts/TacviewGameExport.lua') local TheWayLfs=require('lfs'); dofile(TheWayLfs.writedir()..'Scripts/TheWay.lua') And don't forget to update these mods. TheWay got updated a few days ago, for instance. 1 Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quax Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 Try changing the "_winwing.interval=" value (line #19) in wwtExport.lua to something higher from what it is originally on. Make sure to do it in \SimAppPro\resources\app.asar.unpacked\Events\wwt\wwtExport.lua as well or the changes will get overwritten on the next start of SimAppPro. That changed helped for me to significantly reduce stutter. The refresh rate of SimAppPro simply was too high (and isn't needed). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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