F-10 In Game Mini-Map

[SloppyDog]

Hello,

A feature that I like to use in DCS is the ability to click on a vehicle or static object on the F10 map and being able to take a look at said vehicle or object by pressing the corresponding view key (F7 or F12). It is very useful for mission making and training.

 However, having to enter the F10 map every time to do so is  sometimes cumbersome (specially if you forgot to turn the autopilot on prior to entering the F10 view).

So, what I would like to see in DCS is a F10 mini map shown on the screen while playing or viewing other objects.

See the edited screenshots below as a concept of what I'm trying to convey. In MSFS there is a moving map that is useful for navigation, something similar, but without losing some functionalities for DCS. That would help new players and mission makers. Of course, make it optional to turn it on or off for those who want another tool to help and for those who thrive for full realism.  

Edited April 2, 2024 by SloppyDog

[TEMPEST.114]

No. 

[sirrah]

24 minutes ago, Elphaba said:

No. 

"No"?

You do realize this is the wishlist sub forum?

[TEMPEST.114]

53 minutes ago, sirrah said:

"No"?

You do realize this is the wishlist sub forum?

Yes, and my wish is no to this. It’s not an arcade game. 

[Tippis]

9 hours ago, Elphaba said:

Yes, and my wish is no to this. It’s not an arcade game. 

You realise, of course, that adding a map to the game that the game already has doesn't suddenly turn it into this, right?

It's a UI quality-of-life improvement, not a complete rework of how the entire game operates from its very core.

[TEMPEST.114]

In an ideal world, the 'F10 Map' would be on your kneeboard. Like it would be in a real aircraft. 

Having a live map with units showing and moving around as you fly is like Ace Combat compared to Real Life or DCS. 

So, I stand by my point. A top down view of everything you'd see, live, on the F10 taking up a quadrant of the screen is too OP. Negates SA and pilotage. 

Edited April 8, 2024 by Elphaba

[SharpeXB]

1 hour ago, Elphaba said:

In an idea world, the 'F10 Map' would be on your kneeboard. Like it would be in a real aircraft. 

Having a live map with units showing and moving around as you fly is like Ace Combat compared to Real Life or DCS. 

So, I stand by my point. A top down view of everything you'd see, live, on the F10 taking up a quadrant of the screen is too OP. Negates SA and pilotage. 

You do know it’s possible to control the “realism” of the F10 map in the mission settings, right? So you don’t have to “cheat” if you don’t want to. Those settings are usually enforced in multiplayer. 

[TEMPEST.114]

2 minutes ago, SharpeXB said:

You do know it’s possible to control the “realism” of the F10 map in the mission settings, right? So you don’t have to “cheat” if you don’t want to. Those settings are usually enforced in multiplayer. 

I do. And in my missions, the map is just a map - nothing on it at all. 

That has NOTHING to do with the OP's request to dumb the game down. 

[SharpeXB]

9 minutes ago, Elphaba said:

I do. And in my missions, the map is just a map - nothing on it at all. 

That has NOTHING to do with the OP's request to dumb the game down. 

Personally I dig the full real mode as well. But I see no reason to force that all the time for everyone especially in single player. I don’t see much gameplay difference between a windowed or full screen map really. It’s hardly destroying the sim. 

[SloppyDog]

14 minutes ago, Elphaba said:

I do. And in my missions, the map is just a map - nothing on it at all. 

That has NOTHING to do with the OP's request to dumb the game down. 

There is no request from my part to dumb the game down.

It's all about flexibility.

DCS already provides that with the many options on the F10 map. It's just a matter of turn them on or off. Giving options is what makes the game more accessible for those who are in the process of learning.

It's the same that happens with campaigns: there are some very easy for new players, and others more complex, for advanced players. It's just a matter to find the one that is suitable for you.

It would help lots of new players coming to DCS, and as I said, would be very useful for mission making.

And, to top that, I really would like a 3D mission editor, like in Arma.

[SharpeXB]

The funny thing you need the F10 map for if you are playing without external views is to taxi. You’ll have to idea where you are on the base and there are no taxi instructions. So even the most realistic servers still have your plane location shown on the map. So what’s the point in worrying about realism in this regard?

Edited April 8, 2024 by SharpeXB

[SloppyDog]

22 minutes ago, SharpeXB said:

The funny thing you need the F10 map for if you are playing without external views is to taxi. You’ll have to idea where you are on the base and there are no taxi instructions. So even the most realistic servers still have your plane location shown on the map. So what’s the point in worrying about realism in this regard?

 

Oh, thanks. You made me see another use for this, that would be very helpful.

[Tippis]

3 hours ago, Elphaba said:

I do. And in my missions, the map is just a map - nothing on it at all. 

That has NOTHING to do with the OP's request to dumb the game down. 

So basically, you're saying that the problem you claim exist doesn't actually exist, because you have already solved it fully to your liking. So how does this solved non-issue in any way, shape or form make the OP's suggestion “dumb”? Are you seriously suggesting that a single key press the only thing that is keeping the game at the precipice of becoming a shoot'em-up?

Because that's all the OP is asking for: to not press F10. Nothing changes about DCS in the process. At no point did it become more or less of an arcade game. Your own suggestion already shows why.

[VirusAM]

I do. And in my missions, the map is just a map - nothing on it at all. 
That has NOTHING to do with the OP's request to dumb the game down. 

Every one can wish whatever he/she wants in the wishlist section.
Especially optional features which you are then free to ignore