DD_Friar Posted August 19, 2024 Posted August 19, 2024 (edited) Salute, This is a really odd bug that has got myself and a keen A10 pilot really stumped. I built a mission using all stock aircraft and triggers except for the inclusion of the Hercules mod. When we try and fly the A10 it is not possible to load the selected weapon load-out into the DSMS. We know it will not work because of the configuration that shows in the left MFD (see attached with red highlight). When we click on STAT to get the LOAD option and then select LOAD followed by LOAD ALL we get the screen with all the red boxes. I wondered if it might be some sort of conflict in my mission (Syria map) so I started to delete elements then test again, same issue. So I removed more elements and tested again, same issue until there was nothing left but the A10 same issue. If I create another mission from fresh using same map, same spawn point it works fine (see below screen shot with yellow highlight) Has anyone had ANYTHING like this before? Any ideas on what might have caused it. I and my squad mate both get the same issue both in multiplayer and single player in the same mission. It has really got us scratching our heads. I do not really want to build my whole mission from scratch just to get the A10 working so any thoughts or ideas would be very much appreciated. DD_Friar Syria_Template_V3.0.miz Edited August 19, 2024 by DD_Friar Visit the Dangerdogz at www.dangerdogz.com. We are a group based on having fun (no command structure, no expectations of attendance, no formal skills required, that is not to say we can not get serious for special events, of which we have many). We play DCS and IL2 GBS. We have two groups one based in North America / Canada and one UK / Europe. Come check us out.
Yurgon Posted August 19, 2024 Posted August 19, 2024 The mission (which is really just a Zip archive that ends in .miz instead of .zip) contains a whole bunch of folders that it doesn't need. Chief among them "DSMS". You can simply delete them from the Zip archive and all should be back to normal. The only folders and files (in this mission) that are required and need to stay are: Config KNEEBOARD l10n ("Localization") Scripts mission option theatre warehouses All others can be deleted. The most definite cause for these folders to show up is when "Prepare Mission" is used, but there are numerous instances of mission designers who never used that function and still had some or all of these folders showing up.
DD_Friar Posted August 20, 2024 Author Posted August 20, 2024 @Yurgon - many thanks for that I will take a look and see if I have that folder and if so will delete it from the mission and see what happens. I will post back the outcome. Visit the Dangerdogz at www.dangerdogz.com. We are a group based on having fun (no command structure, no expectations of attendance, no formal skills required, that is not to say we can not get serious for special events, of which we have many). We play DCS and IL2 GBS. We have two groups one based in North America / Canada and one UK / Europe. Come check us out.
DD_Friar Posted August 20, 2024 Author Posted August 20, 2024 Just tried the mission after deleting the DSMS folder within the zip but still have the same issue. Visit the Dangerdogz at www.dangerdogz.com. We are a group based on having fun (no command structure, no expectations of attendance, no formal skills required, that is not to say we can not get serious for special events, of which we have many). We play DCS and IL2 GBS. We have two groups one based in North America / Canada and one UK / Europe. Come check us out.
DD_Friar Posted August 21, 2024 Author Posted August 21, 2024 (edited) Been trying some other attempts to resolve this but without luck. I started with no load-out by default on a fresh session for the mission. (see picture of unarmed A10 below) I next just put some bombs on stations 4 and 8 with a target pod. I next went through the process to Load DSMS process (see results below) The items in red are for a load-out from a previous test. From what I can see it is being carried over? Edited August 21, 2024 by DD_Friar Visit the Dangerdogz at www.dangerdogz.com. We are a group based on having fun (no command structure, no expectations of attendance, no formal skills required, that is not to say we can not get serious for special events, of which we have many). We play DCS and IL2 GBS. We have two groups one based in North America / Canada and one UK / Europe. Come check us out.
Yurgon Posted August 21, 2024 Posted August 21, 2024 49 minutes ago, DD_Friar said: Been trying some other attempts to resolve this but without luck. Can you upload a track? I just ran your mission (and installed the Herc mod because otherwise I couldn't load the mission...), confirmed the issue, went ahead and deleted only the DSMS folder from the mission, ran it again and this time I could rearm entirely new weapons, reload DSMS, everything was peachy.
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted August 21, 2024 ED Team Posted August 21, 2024 please ensure any track replay does not contain unofficial mods as we can not use them on debug sessions if there is a problem. thank you 1 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
DD_Friar Posted August 21, 2024 Author Posted August 21, 2024 @Yurgon - I assume you closed the game down then went into the .miz to delete the folder, then re-started the game and re-launched the mission? Did you try loading a subsequent load-out? Visit the Dangerdogz at www.dangerdogz.com. We are a group based on having fun (no command structure, no expectations of attendance, no formal skills required, that is not to say we can not get serious for special events, of which we have many). We play DCS and IL2 GBS. We have two groups one based in North America / Canada and one UK / Europe. Come check us out.
Solution Yurgon Posted August 21, 2024 Solution Posted August 21, 2024 8 minutes ago, DD_Friar said: I assume you closed the game down then went into the .miz to delete the folder, then re-started the game and re-launched the mission? No, why would I? I created a copy of the mission, edited the copy in 7Zip, and then ran the copied mission. 9 minutes ago, DD_Friar said: Did you try loading a subsequent load-out? Errr... 27 minutes ago, Yurgon said: [...] ran it again and this time I could rearm entirely new weapons, reload DSMS, everything was peachy. Please upload a track.
DD_Friar Posted August 21, 2024 Author Posted August 21, 2024 7 minutes ago, Yurgon said: I created a copy of the mission, edited the copy in 7Zip, and then ran the copied mission. I was not criticizing , I was trying to understand the steps you took so I could replicate. And from what you said it was basically what I suggested. the game and mission was not open when you removed the DSMS folder. Visit the Dangerdogz at www.dangerdogz.com. We are a group based on having fun (no command structure, no expectations of attendance, no formal skills required, that is not to say we can not get serious for special events, of which we have many). We play DCS and IL2 GBS. We have two groups one based in North America / Canada and one UK / Europe. Come check us out.
DD_Friar Posted August 21, 2024 Author Posted August 21, 2024 RESOLVED I deleted the "avionics" folder within the .miz and all seems to be good. Many thanks for your suggestion. Visit the Dangerdogz at www.dangerdogz.com. We are a group based on having fun (no command structure, no expectations of attendance, no formal skills required, that is not to say we can not get serious for special events, of which we have many). We play DCS and IL2 GBS. We have two groups one based in North America / Canada and one UK / Europe. Come check us out.
Yurgon Posted August 21, 2024 Posted August 21, 2024 2 hours ago, DD_Friar said: I deleted the "avionics" folder within the .miz and all seems to be good. That's odd. I don't see a folder called "avionics" in the mission file that you uploaded in the first post. I can also say with certainty that I was able to recreate the issue you described with that mission file, and that the issue was gone as soon as I had deleted the "DSMS" folder from a copy of the mission and then ran that mission-copy, without changing anything else. Anyway, good to know it's working now, even though I don't understand why.
DD_Friar Posted August 22, 2024 Author Posted August 22, 2024 10 hours ago, Yurgon said: That's odd. I don't see a folder called "avionics" It surprised me a bit as well when I went in to look. It may have had something to do with the F16. I had gone into an F16 when hoping about between planes to see if it made any difference. Inside the avionics folder were two other folders one for the A10 and one for the F16. Visit the Dangerdogz at www.dangerdogz.com. We are a group based on having fun (no command structure, no expectations of attendance, no formal skills required, that is not to say we can not get serious for special events, of which we have many). We play DCS and IL2 GBS. We have two groups one based in North America / Canada and one UK / Europe. Come check us out.
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted August 22, 2024 ED Team Posted August 22, 2024 it sounds like prepare mission has been used on the mission, is it an older mission that has been edited? There was an issue fixed some time ago regarding this, it maybe the mission you have is corrupted due to the old bug. 1 1 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
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