Trim no longer working with Rhino ffb

[142nd_Bama]

As the title implies since the recent update the Rhino ffb has had the ability to trim taken away. I hope this is resolved soon as I love the hook but is a pain to fly without the “trimmer release”! 

[tribundf]

Still works fine on my Brunner, however the trim reset function currently is not working and ED is aware. 
 

check you bindings? Maybe something got messed up? Double bound in UI layer maybe? 

[MAXsenna]

14 hours ago, 142nd_Bama said:

As the title implies since the recent update the Rhino ffb has had the ability to trim taken away. I hope this is resolved soon as I love the hook but is a pain to fly without the “trimmer release”! 

Are you using both Direct Input, (enabled FFB in DCS settings), and telemetry in the VPForce app? No one else has reported this, so I highly doubt FFB suddenly stopped working for that particular brand, as DCS has no way of knowing what FFB brand a user has. When FFB is enabled in DCS it just sends out the Direct Input signals to ALL FFB connected devices through Direct Input (Microsoft). I'd check with other Rhino users and double check the configuration. 

Cheers! 

[Number481]

20 hours ago, 142nd_Bama said:

As the title implies since the recent update the Rhino ffb has had the ability to trim taken away. I hope this is resolved soon as I love the hook but is a pain to fly without the “trimmer release”! 

As the guys said, it is working fine.  Trimmer mode set to default, trim control bound in the settings.

Initially there was no support so you needed to use hardware trim either in configurator or TelemFFB.  With this last update (or maybe the one before?  I wasn't paying attention), they added native support.  Make sure you don't still have "sticky spring" (in configurator) or the spring override (in TelemFFB) enabled.

[142nd_Bama]

@Number481 I use hardware trim and override in all the helos. It worked until this update to the 47. I will double check the spring override but that shouldn’t affect the hardware Trim should it? I’ve also tried both ways, in game Trim and hardware to no avail along with a couple more squad mates. Unless there’s a new button I haven’t hit within dcs but I didn’t see anything…..

Edited October 10, 2024 by 142nd_Bama

[142nd_Bama]

I possibly still had spring override in telemffb..... seems to be working now, thanks!

 

[heloguy]

Native FFB trim doesn't seem to be working with this update on my Rhino.  I have the "centering device" interrupt bound on my stick, not using TelemFFB, only native FFB, trim mode is default, and I have the trim hat bound for beep trim in all directions.  I can see the correct buttons actuate on the 3d model in the cockpit, but force gradient remains when I press the CD interrupt, and the stick does not move when using the beep trim hat.

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

3 hours ago, heloguy said:

Native FFB trim doesn't seem to be working with this update on my Rhino.

It works well enough for me. I do use TelemFFB, but that shouldn't make any difference in this case since I don't use the Hardware Trim option.

[heloguy]

4 hours ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said:

It works well enough for me. I do use TelemFFB, but that shouldn't make any difference in this case since I don't use the Hardware Trim option.

Huh.  Well, I'll try a repair then, and report back.  I tried using the trim in the UH-1, and AH-64, and everything worked fine.  Just doesn't work in the 47 for me, for some reason.

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

18 minutes ago, heloguy said:

and report back

Perhaps it’s just unexpected behaviour because of DASH and LCT now being implemented? No idea - I flew yesterday and today and didn’t have any issues.

[heloguy]

24 minutes ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said:

Perhaps it’s just unexpected behaviour because of DASH and LCT now being implemented? No idea - I flew yesterday and today and didn’t have any issues.

Nah.  The force gradient should go away on the Rhino while I have the "CD Release" button pressed.  I have it bound, and I can see it animated as pressed, and the force gradient remains.  If I move the stick to a new position, and release the button, it does not re-reference.  It centers right back to default, which is wrong.  Hopefully it's a local problem, and not a bug, but, after my repair is done, I'll report back.  Has nothing to do with DASH and LCT.

[MAXsenna]

Nah.  The force gradient should go away on the Rhino while I have the "CD Release" button pressed.  I have it bound, and I can see it animated as pressed, and the force gradient remains.  If I move the stick to a new position, and release the button, it does not re-reference.  It centers right back to default, which is wrong.  Hopefully it's a local problem, and not a bug, but, after my repair is done, I'll report back.  Has nothing to do with DASH and LCT.

Bob is not on, is he?

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[ldnz]

I have the same issue as heloguy, CD Release does nothing at all with my VPForce. No TelemFFB or anything else. Annoying as I can't trim at all so its constant force

[heloguy]

12 hours ago, MAXsenna said:

Bob is not on, is he?

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I assume not, as I don't even know how to turn him on.  Unless he's on by default.

[MAXsenna]

I assume not, as I don't even know how to turn him on.  Unless he's on by default.

No, he's not. Unless one did what I did, bound it to a two position switch that is synced at start, and always forget about it.

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[heloguy]

36 minutes ago, MAXsenna said:

No, he's not. Unless one did what I did, bound it to a two position switch that is synced at start, and always forget about it.

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Confirmed, I don't have Bob bound to anything, so, not a factor.  Re-confirmed I have FFB enabled in the settings, and trim option for the CH-47 is set to Default.

[Marsvinet]

 

15 hours ago, heloguy said:

Nah.  The force gradient should go away on the Rhino while I have the "CD Release" button pressed.  I have it bound, and I can see it animated as pressed, and the force gradient remains.  If I move the stick to a new position, and release the button, it does not re-reference.  It centers right back to default, which is wrong.  Hopefully it's a local problem, and not a bug, but, after my repair is done, I'll report back.  Has nothing to do with DASH and LCT.

Look for a keybind simply named "Trim" or something to that effect. The CD Release does not work yet, the simplified "Trim" works. It's what I'm using and it works perfectly.

[ldnz]

Yeah, that was my issue. Wrong binding. Tip top now  

[heloguy]

10 hours ago, Marsvinet said:

 

Look for a keybind simply named "Trim" or something to that effect. The CD Release does not work yet, the simplified "Trim" works. It's what I'm using and it works perfectly.

Got it, thanks.  That worked for me as well.