Syria: Low-level Bush Pop-In

[Tunstamj]

Hi there,

I'm experiencing a large amount of pop-in at low-level.

Previously, the bushes at low level were classed as surface details (I believe the Anabasis_setifera) was the biggest issue; the small green-ish shrub bush. As per the below thread, it was possible to delete/rename the file, and the terrain asset was no longer rendered, effectively removing the large pop-in. 

 

I believe since the latest update to the Syria map these items are no longer classed as surface details, as I've renamed/deleted the appropriate file and they're still appearing in-game. The "forest visibility" slider in-game now appears to control the level these are rendered at, but the slider has a minimum of 30%, and a maximum of seemingly 20ft in front of you (supposedly a DCS core limitation).

Please see the below clip for an example of how distracting the pop-in is, and how small the render circle around the aircraft is at low-level flight. This is done at night through the PNVS for clarity, but the issue is very much still present and distracting during the day as well.

https://i.imgur.com/GhDhAlx.mp4

Is there any way these items could go back to surface details such that they could be removed? Or is there a similar fix for the awful pop-in at low-level?

 

[MadKreator]

I agree! I spent a good couple hours last night fiddling with every setting in every graphic/ option/ terrain/ world lua file I could find, trying to increase that render distance. Along with lighting and having LOD 0 of scenery show up farther away. Seems to me that any files related to these things are locked/ hidden. View distance is the only thing I could increase the multiplier or radius on that had any effect on scenery, but it just made the far distance things come into view sooner. I couldn’t find any luas that affected the up close “pop-ins” and LOD’s

[mdtenor22001]

I've been scratching my head trying to figure this out too.  Flying helicopters low and fast in this map is so weird and distracting, with the shrubbery just "growing" right before your eyes. It seems like a basic thing to fix and I see threads on this going back to 2022. Sigh. If anyone learns of a fix, please share.

[MAXsenna]

17 hours ago, mdtenor22001 said:

I've been scratching my head trying to figure this out too.  Flying helicopters low and fast in this map is so weird and distracting, with the shrubbery just "growing" right before your eyes. It seems like a basic thing to fix and I see threads on this going back to 2022. Sigh. If anyone learns of a fix, please share.

Needs a fix from ED. It's even worse on Kola. It pops THROUGH the snow. Makes my Norwegian head spin.  

[Aarnoman]

I would like this being fixed too. Would be nice to have longer draw distance for those pop up bushes, and more of those bushes in the original parts of the map (mostly central Syria etc) which are not as nicely detailed as the more recently worked on areas.

[YSIAD_RIP]

100% Agree with the thread! 

The artists and Devs that create these maps deserve a lot of credit for the details that go into these maps that probably 90% of the users never realize or appreciate.

• Just for fun and as a HACK I Renamed the Syria.sd5 file to:
  • \Mods\terrains\Syria\surfaceDetails\xxxSyria.sd5
  •  

I really thing a Special Menu slider to remove some or all surfaceDetails would be one workaround to the POP-IN distractions on all maps in DCS. 

Edited October 28, 2024 by YSIAD_RIP