anyone having mdf graphic issues in VR?

[rocket302]

hi, while flying the MFD i get these weird gray lines and the graphic is not clear. the gray lines shift etc

anyone else seeing these?  Note its hard to see unless you look close at the mfd  image i uploaded.

its pretty bad in game however.

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[YoYo]

Turn off DLAA/DLSS, use MSAA.

Edited December 5, 2024 by YoYo

[epolta]

On 12/4/2024 at 11:38 PM, YoYo said:

Turn off DLAA/DLSS, use MSAA.

Is that the only proposed fix? MSAA is terrible for shimmering and performance. Hopefully this can be fixed long term!

[tempusmurphy]

yep, its a bit of a pain ... you ether have clear MFDs and half FPS or full FPS and mfd's that look like somthing out of the 1950s 

[Dangerzone]

On 12/5/2024 at 2:58 PM, rocket302 said:

hi, while flying the MFD i get these weird gray lines and the graphic is not clear. the gray lines shift etc

anyone else seeing these?  Note its hard to see unless you look close at the mfd  image i uploaded.

its pretty bad in game however.

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This shows up absolutely awful for me in VR (4090 with Crystal Light), to the point where I've stopped flying the Kiowa now, hoping/waiting for a fix. 

I wasn't aware of the MSAA trick. Handy to know as a workaround, but since I fly numerous aircraft, not something I really want to rely on. 

Have PC made any announcements as to whether they're considering working on this, or adding an option to enable/disable TV bands, etc? 

[rocket302]

thanks, since this is not just me...I'm going to summit a ticket.

if we all submit tickets maybe they will start making it a priority.

 

thanks

 

[Dangerzone]

1 hour ago, rocket302 said:

thanks, since this is not just me...I'm going to summit a ticket.

if we all submit tickets maybe they will start making it a priority.

IDK if Polychop frequent these forums, but it's PC, not ED that would be doing the fix I would imagine, so might be better to look them up on their discord. (Being a 3rd party dev - they may also be more interested in resolving it in a more timely manner if they're aware of how bad it is)?

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

For me, in VR with DLAA, those lines only appear if the MFD is not directly in the centre of my FoV. If I'm focussed on it, it's completely fine.
Sure a fix would be nice, but it's not a deal breaker for me. The KW is just too awesome to let that spoil my fun with it  

[Dangerzone]

43 minutes ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said:

For me, in VR with DLAA, those lines only appear if the MFD is not directly in the centre of my FoV. If I'm focussed on it, it's completely fine.
Sure a fix would be nice, but it's not a deal breaker for me. The KW is just too awesome to let that spoil my fun with it  

Interesting. I've found the opposite. I've had to twist my head in all sorts of directions to try and get the 'best' lines to see clearly - as looking directly at it creates some of the worst instances.

I'm guessing it's going to be related to a combination of upscaling, initial resolution, HMD device, and a bunch of other settings as to how it can differ from user to user.

[Bigity]

It's a problem with exported MFDs in 2D as well, still.

[Mainstay]

These lines are getting really annoying tbh fix it please Polychop

[Dangerzone]

3 hours ago, Mainstay said:

These lines are getting really annoying tbh fix it please Polychop

I've stopped flying the Kiowa as this just creates all sorts of eye strain for me. Unfortunately this doesn't appear to have been recognized officially as an issue - so I'm wondering if it's 'correct as is' and will receive no attention. That's a real pity - I had looked forward for years for this module, and would love to fly it more. 

[Nanolab]

I solved that problem by adding to my autoexec.cfg (located in ***\Saved Games\DCS\Config) those 2 lines : 

DLSS_Preset = 'K'
HUD_MFD_after_DLSS = true

As I'm using DLSS (for best VR perfs), that trick works for all MFDs : game changer for me !

 

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

I use Profile Inspector to force the DLSS preset (J in my case, which I find highly superior to K).

I also tested the other command but didn’t like it, so I removed the line again.

But we’re all different, with different eyes and different preferences

[Bigity]

14 hours ago, Nanolab said:

I solved that problem by adding to my autoexec.cfg (located in ***\Saved Games\DCS\Config) those 2 lines : 

DLSS_Preset = 'K'
HUD_MFD_after_DLSS = true

As I'm using DLSS (for best VR perfs), that trick works for all MFDs : game changer for me !

 

Already have this and makes no difference on the exports at least