NVIDIA 5 Series cards - Get your wallets ready boys and girls....

[LucShep]

 

9 hours ago, Panzerlang said:

This seems to be reasonably believable. Around 3000 Euros for the 5090s. Obscene. Like, properly obscene. Anyone who believes any amount of R&D and blah blah blah for consumer-grade electronic components can justify or explain such a price needs their head tested.

Custom GeForce RTX 5080 and RTX 5090 pricing emerges: made for gamers with deep pockets - VideoCardz.com

 oh oh....




Hey guys, wanna hear a joke? It's hilarious. Ready?

RTX 50 series.

*hysterical laughter*

And another joke: AMD competition 

*silence*

 

Edited January 20 by LucShep

[kksnowbear]

5 hours ago, LucShep said:

Hey guys, wanna hear a joke? It's hilarious. Ready?

RTX 50 series.

Yup.

Aaaaaaaaaaannnd this is why the "MSRP argument" is complete and utter bullsh*t.

Next up: Lack of any data means no one here knows jack (until 1/24 at earliest) about rasterization performance - in spite of trying really hard to claim they do.  Let's look one more time at that quote, shall we?

On 1/18/2025 at 1:42 PM, Aapje said:

There is objectively a gain in price/performance of rasterization, without factoring in the fake frames, for all but the 5090

We all see it, right there...lol  Pretty sure that, so far, NONE of the drivel Nvidia has published shows pure rasterization improvements (because...marketing). 

Thus making the above quote completely speculative opinion, just as I indicated here:

On 1/18/2025 at 2:17 PM, kksnowbear said:

According to whom?  Where is your data?

Having any actual data (and not extrapolation of Nvidia marketing drivel) would be remarkable since, AFAIK, reviews of actual hardware aren't going to happen til the 24th.

Sounds like more BS speculation, but being represented as fact.

(Note the phrase "not extrapolation of Nvidia marketing drivel").
So:

Nvidia MSRP complete fiction? Check.

Completely misleading data/complete absence of data showing performance improvement without smoke-and-mirror, "fake frame" BS?  Check.

Thus making claims of any meaningful price/performance comparison absolute hogwash.

This isn't necessarily about the degree of 'price/performance' gain (even though in part it is) - in reality that's up in the air at best, until there is more data.  I personally don't think it's going to be all that impressive; I think the info we do have suggests this already, and I think it's just gonna get worse.

But, with that said, this is primarily  about there being no actual data to support (yet another) uninformed opinion.  And to be completely accurate, there is no such data, at least not available to us at present.  Meaning the entire assertion as quoted above is speculative.  At the time it was stated, there was no actual, reliable data on either real price or performance (ridiculous MSRP and marked-up marketing drivel laid aside).  That's what I called out, and it's still true.

The performance part we won't know more about until 1/24, but even then, without seeing actual prices, well...

I think we're done here  

PS To be perfectly clear:  I have no issue whatsoever with casual discussion, expression of opinions, and speculation.  I enjoy it.  That's among the things discussion forums are for.  The problem is when people state opinions, speculation, etc while trying to make it sound factual or authoritative, without foundation or basis.  This is misleading, it is harmful to the readers (who will see this later and may or may not post anything themselves, and may not realize some comments are misleading).  It is thus also harmful to the community as a whole.  TBH everyone here should understand this - in my view, of course.

Edited January 20 by kksnowbear

[kksnowbear]

  Just watching a HUB video where Steve says that, even at MSRP *and* assuming a 30% increase in rasterization, the 5090 would be (his word) "disappointing"...

Just don't do it.

(Even though I know, the moment I say that, there are people who will line up to pay much more than MSRP).

Why, you might reasonably ask, would someone do that?  And it's a great question.

In my own estimation, there is essentially one way this makes any sense: Bragging rights**.

I can already see the sigs being edited...

** see below (although I am clearly expressing an opinion here, and have identified it as such).

Edited January 20 by kksnowbear

[Aapje]

There are people for whom these prices are pocket money, or who put huge value on the extra performance, who earn so much money with the card that it pays for itself, etc.

If bragging rights is really the only reason that you can come up with, then that speaks to an inability to understand how much diversity there is in circumstance, and in motivation.

 

[kksnowbear]

 

3 hours ago, Aapje said:

There are people for whom these prices are pocket money, or who put huge value on the extra performance, who earn so much money with the card that it pays for itself, etc.

If bragging rights is really the only reason that you can come up with, then that speaks to an inability to understand how much diversity there is in circumstance, and in motivation.

I did say that I could hear the sigs being edited...perhaps that wasn't clear enough.

But you're right.  I wasn't considering the people who you mentioned, in that specific case.  I don't consider the "stupid-wealthy", nor any type of "professional" gamers. Not referring to the type Huang referred to with $10,000 computers.  My own professional experience over 40+ years indicates those are far and away in the minority; even if you combined them all, I doubt you'd touch a significant percentage of "mainstream" gamers.

So, no, I don't consider a subset of the whole that's so tiny as to be insignificant.  Can't say I care enough about that lot to include them in any meaningful perspective of typical gamers. Not relevant to my perspective, and not generally the focus of my concerns.

At least I was clear about expressing it as my own opinion, (i.e. "In my own estimation") and not trying to represent it as fact.  (The post has been edited to ensure this is doubly clear, in case someone else fails to recognize it.)

Edited January 20 by kksnowbear

[Panzerlang]

3 hours ago, kksnowbear said:

  Just watching a HUB video where Steve says that, even at MSRP *and* assuming a 30% increase in rasterization, the 5090 would be (his word) "disappointing"...

Just don't do it.

(Even though I know, the moment I say that, there are people who will line up to pay much more than MSRP).

Why, you might reasonably ask, would someone do that?  And it's a great question.

In my own estimation, there is essentially one way this makes any sense: Bragging rights.

I can already see the sigs being edited...

Those most easily impressed are those least worth impressing.

[kksnowbear]

1 hour ago, Panzerlang said:

Those most easily impressed are those least worth impressing.

Aye.

Maybe we should start a pool or something, as to who will be among the first here.

[Panzerlang]

5 minutes ago, kksnowbear said:

Aye.

Maybe we should start a pool or something, as to who will be among the first here.

Ya. Along with the line "Coo, why ain't DCS running betterer with my 5090?!" 

[kksnowbear]

28 minutes ago, Panzerlang said:

Ya. Along with the line "Coo, why ain't DCS running betterer with my 5090?!" 

Baaaaaaahahaha! LOL

Funniest thing I've heard since the suggestion to pay Nvidia with "fake bills".

[SharpeXB]

On 1/19/2025 at 11:04 PM, Panzerlang said:

This seems to be reasonably believable. Around 3000 Euros for the 5090s. Obscene. Like, properly obscene. Anyone who believes any amount of R&D and blah blah blah for consumer-grade electronic components can justify or explain such a price needs their head tested.

Custom GeForce RTX 5080 and RTX 5090 pricing emerges: made for gamers with deep pockets - VideoCardz.com

Those must be “scalper” prices

Price from a legit retailer in the US compared to eBay

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5080-16gb-gddr7-graphics-card-gun-metal/6614153.p?skuId=6614153

 

Edited January 22 by SharpeXB

[kksnowbear]

1 hour ago, SharpeXB said:

That’s just astonishing! Look at France for example and just forget the 5090, look at the more “mainstream” 5080. 1,938.67 € = $2,021.13 with that whopping 20% VAT Then you have to factor in the average income difference between the two counties and you get a “feels like” price in the US of $2,714! That card sells here for $999 + maybe 8% sales tax so $1,078 total. That’s 2.5x as much. But the “obscene” part is national economic differences as much as the product itself. Unless that French quote is from some scalper website or something. 

Does anyone believe they'll actually get a 5080 for MSRP?  I thought we pretty much covered "MSRP is bullsh*t"...and it has diddly to do with Europe or the US.

There were many places you could place an online order for 30- and 40-series cards when they had no stock.  Then people sat and waited until the order was finally cancelled, and some of those (who just had to have them) then went and paid 200% MSRP.

I know a young gamer who paid nearly $2000 for a 3080Ti, because he had to have it (even though I *begged* him not to do it).  That was in 2022, fully six months after release of the card at an MSRP of $1199.  That's over 165% MSRP.  During the first two years after release, those cards spent far more time way above MSRP than at or below.

And that's when you could actually get one.  We have to consider here that it's already fairly common knowledge Nvidia is controlling who-gets-what, and isn't releasing many of the 50 series at all.  Availability is expected to be much worse than the 40 or 30 series, as I understand it.

If the past is any indicator (and I'm sure it is) then I won't be surprised at all if I see 5080s for $1500+(maybe more) and 5090s approaching $3000.

Now, if someone does manage to get a 5080 at MSRP right at release, hey - good for them.  I imagine they're going to be in a very small minority.  We still don't know yet whether the performance will be worth the cost, and some fairly reputable sources are already saying "meh".

But whether it's eventually in stock or not, and regardless of price, seeing a 50-series card advertised for sale right now, especially at MSRP, effectively means zero. Zilch. Nada, nil, nothing.

Edited January 21 by kksnowbear

[Aapje]

17 hours ago, kksnowbear said:

Does anyone believe they'll actually get a 5080 for MSRP? I thought we pretty much covered "MSRP is bullsh*t"...and it has diddly to do with Europe or the US.

If you want to get one early for MSRP, you need to watch out for relatively small quantities getting dropped and snatch one up right away. For example, by following the GPU Drops or StockDrops discord, or whatever discords, telegrams or other trackers exist for your local market. This is true in particular if you want an FE model, which are produced in limited quantity and sold for a limited time, so you can't necessarily wait for supply to catch up to demand, because by that time the FE cards may no longer be sold new.

Telling falsehoods that the MSRP is fake, when the reality is that MSRP supply is very low at first and obviously sells out faster than the more expensive cards, doesn't really help anyone.

Note that scalpers worsen this issue, as they buy up stock and hang on to it a bit, creating fake demand early on, even if many of these cards never get sold on. Once the prices start to stabilize, the scalpers return the cards to the stores, so supply can suddenly shoot up at that time. We had reports of huge numbers of 4080's being returned to stores by scalpers during the last release cycle. Note that scalping is worse for stores or countries where there is a generous right to return, since scalpers can just speculate on high demand with almost no risk, as they can just get a refund if they cannot sell the card for the inflated price. However, given that scalping didn't work so well for the 4080, I suspect that there will be fewer scalpers this time around (although we might see plenty for the 5090).

17 hours ago, kksnowbear said:

I know a young gamer who paid nearly $2000 for a 3080Ti, because he had to have it (even though I *begged* him not to do it).  That was in 2022, fully six months after release of the card at an MSRP of $1199.  That's over 165% MSRP.

That was during the mining boom when demand shot up enormously, and supply was not even close to catching up. Back then most MSRPs were set just before the mining boom reignited again, so they were far too low for the supply/demand situation for the next few years, and thus it is logical that prices never stabilized until Ethereum going to proof of stake ended the mining boom.

It is quite irrelevant for the current situation, where we are not in a mining boom. However, we are in an AI boom, but in contrast to the mining boom that impacted all cards, the AI boom primarily impacts the top cards, but the impact is still way lower than the mining boom. I consider it the most uncertain when the 5090 pricing will stabilize. For the 4090 it only took a few months, and the supply of professional AI cards is better than back then, so it's probably going to last a few months again, unless a country like China starts buying 5090s up en mass.

But for the other cards, it makes most sense to expect a fairly standard pattern or better than that, where the MSRP-models will be in very low supply at first, and stores may ask inflated prices for the first months. Then again, the 5080 in particular seems to give a very poor increase in performance, so there is a good chance that the demand is particularly low.

Rumor has it that the initial supply of cards is very low, and that is of course a major factor. You cannot buy cards that are not supplied to stores. In general the rule with new products is that demand is the highest and supply the lowest just after release.

17 hours ago, kksnowbear said:

If the past is any indicator (and I'm sure it is) then I won't be surprised at all if I see 5080s for $1500+(maybe more) and 5090s approaching $3000.

Different things happened in the past and you do not seem to understand what the actual causes were for various price changes and supply issues in the past, and because of that, not able to make a good educated guess based on the information that we have.

Anyway, my advice in general is to either be willing to spend some effort to get a card for a good price early, or be willing to wait a bit for prices and supply to stabilize. If you don't give in to the FOMO and just wait for the pricing to stabilize, it is a lot easier. Especially for the 5080, I expect that it doesn't take that long.

Edited January 22 by Aapje

[Aapje]

BTW, at least some AIBs are claiming that they cannot make the release date:

https://videocardz.com/newz/retailers-aibs-and-system-integrators-warn-of-geforce-rtx-50-series-shortages-and-delays

It's starting to look like Nvidia messed up with their release date. So perhaps we should just act like the real release date is half a month or a full month later.

[SharpeXB]

It’s totally possible to buy these at MSRP. Here’s my receipt from Best Buy for the 4090. All you need to do is be patient and wait.

 

[kksnowbear]

1 hour ago, SharpeXB said:

It’s totally possible to buy these at MSRP. Here’s my receipt from Best Buy for the 4090. All you need to do is be patient and wait.

 

LMAO...

The MSRP on a 4090 was 1599. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_40_series#:~:text=(FP32) performance.-,Release,16%2C 2022 for %241%2C199 US.

"The RTX 4090 was released as the first model of the series on October 12, 2022, launched for $1,599 US"

You paid $200 more, thus you did not get a 4090 for MSRP.

As your image shows, they're still typically above MSRP, more than two years later.  1800+ is not uncommon, *if* you can even get one.  And that represents more than $200 over MSRP.

Seriously.  Fact check.

Edited January 22 by kksnowbear

[kksnowbear]

6 hours ago, Aapje said:

If you want to get one early for MSRP, you need to watch out for relatively small quantities getting dropped and snatch one up right away. For example, by following the GPU Drops or StockDrops discord, or whatever discords, telegrams or other trackers exist for your local market. This is true in particular if you want an FE model, which are produced in limited quantity and sold for a limited time, so you can't necessarily wait for supply to catch up to demand, because by that time the FE cards may no longer be sold new.

Telling falsehoods that the MSRP is fake, when the reality is that MSRP supply is very low at first and obviously sells out faster than the more expensive cards, doesn't really help anyone.

Note that scalpers worsen this issue, as they buy up stock and hang on to it a bit, creating fake demand early on, even if many of these cards never get sold on. Once the prices start to stabilize, the scalpers return the cards to the stores, so supply can suddenly shoot up at that time. We had reports of huge numbers of 4080's being returned to stores by scalpers during the last release cycle. Note that scalping is worse for stores or countries where there is a generous right to return, since scalpers can just speculate on high demand with almost no risk, as they can just get a refund if they cannot sell the card for the inflated price. However, given that scalping didn't work so well for the 4080, I suspect that there will be fewer scalpers this time around (although we might see plenty for the 5090).

That was during the mining boom when demand shot up enormously, and supply was not even close to catching up. Back then most MSRPs were set just before the mining boom reignited again, so they were far too low for the supply/demand situation for the next few years, and thus it is logical that prices never stabilized until Ethereum going to proof of stake ended the mining boom.

It is quite irrelevant for the current situation, where we are not in a mining boom. However, we are in an AI boom, but in contrast to the mining boom that impacted all cards, the AI boom primarily impacts the top cards, but the impact is still way lower than the mining boom. I consider it the most uncertain when the 5090 pricing will stabilize. For the 4090 it only took a few months, and the supply of professional AI cards is better than back then, so it's probably going to last a few months again, unless a country like China starts buying 5090s up en mass.

But for the other cards, it makes most sense to expect a fairly standard pattern or better than that, where the MSRP-models will be in very low supply at first, and stores may ask inflated prices for the first months. Then again, the 5080 in particular seems to give a very poor increase in performance, so there is a good chance that the demand is particularly low.

Rumor has it that the initial supply of cards is very low, and that is of course a major factor. You cannot buy cards that are not supplied to stores. In general the rule with new products is that demand is the highest and supply the lowest just after release.

Different things happened in the past and you do not seem to understand what the actual causes were for various price changes and supply issues in the past, and because of that, not able to make a good educated guess based on the information that we have.

Anyway, my advice in general is to either be willing to spend some effort to get a card for a good price early, or be willing to wait a bit for prices and supply to stabilize. If you don't give in to the FOMO and just wait for the pricing to stabilize, it is a lot easier. Especially for the 5080, I expect that it doesn't take that long.

And all your mountain of speculation is just exactly that.  Your "educated guess" doesn't prove anything, any more than your assertion about price/performance did.

Even if someone uses all the tools on the planet, it doesn't guarantee they're gonna get a 50 series GPU for MSRP.

It just...doesn't.

According to several reputable sources, 50 series cards will be in far more limited supply than prior releases. 

And whaddya know, along comes your next post, to prove that very point (which I'd already made, some time ago):

2 hours ago, Aapje said:

BTW, at least some AIBs are claiming that they cannot make the release date:

https://videocardz.com/newz/retailers-aibs-and-system-integrators-warn-of-geforce-rtx-50-series-shortages-and-delays

It's starting to look like Nvidia messed up with their release date. So perhaps we should just act like the real release date is half a month or a full month later.

(Worth noting that, for all your brilliant "understanding", this still seems to have caught you off guard lol). I can say at least *I'm* not surprised, at all.

And, of course, this will make it even less likely for anyone to get one for anything like MSRP.

Mind you, even if they did, there's still the issue that at least one qualified reviewer has said even at MSRP, even with something like 30% performance increase, the 5090 will be "disappointing".  There are others (like you) who have suggested the 5080 might "give a very poor increase in performance".

The hits just keep on coming lol...

Edited January 22 by kksnowbear

[kksnowbear]

Incidentally, I guess the claim you got a 4090 for MSRP winds up in the same bin as you claiming you didn't pay taxes on the 4090... the factual timeline on laws regarding taxes on purchases online would seem to dispute that claim.

On 1/17/2025 at 10:21 AM, SharpeXB said:

Fun fact, until several years ago there was no sales tax here on anything you purchased online. So my previous gaming PC and these cards were all tax free.

Fun (actual, real) fact, in context: The tax laws were changed (c.2016-18); several years before the 4090 was released (2022).  Allowing for possible exception (as one example, states that still don't charge taxes), it seems chronologically impossible that anyone got a 4090 without paying sales tax.

Laying that aside for a moment, the receipt you posted shows taxes were charged.

Edited January 22 by kksnowbear

[SharpeXB]

It’s the Circle of Life… Get gouged by the graphics card market. Make it back from the stock market.

“the S&P 500 hitting all-time high again, as technology shares such as Oracle and Nvidia  rallied on artificial intelligence optimism”

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/21/stock-market-today-live-updates.html

It’s funny to figure that the same market forces that are spiking those GPU prices are the same that’s pushing stocks higher

Edited January 22 by SharpeXB

[unlikely_spider]

1 hour ago, kksnowbear said:

Incidentally, I guess the claim you got a 4090 for MSRP winds up in the same bin as you claiming you didn't pay taxes on the 4090... the factual timeline on laws regarding taxes on purchases online would seem to dispute that claim.

Fun (actual, real) fact, in context: The tax laws were changed (c.2016-18); several years before the 4090 was released (2022).  Allowing for possible exception (as one example, states that still don't charge taxes), it seems chronologically impossible that anyone got a 4090 without paying sales tax.

Laying that aside for a moment, the receipt you posted shows taxes were charged.

Taxes are not part of MSRP. If MSRP is $999, for example, and I paid $1049 at the register due to state sales tax of 5%, then I got a card at MSRP.

[kksnowbear]

23 minutes ago, unlikely_spider said:

Taxes are not part of MSRP. If MSRP is $999, for example, and I paid $1049 at the register due to state sales tax of 5%, then I got a card at MSRP.

Uhhhh...my comments were directed at the post I actually quoted.  In that post, it was obvious that the card was not purchased at MSRP - as I said.

Not sure how you mistook that as directed at you (I also actually mentioned a receipt, which I don't think you provided.)

I don't recall saying you did not get a 4090 at MSRP.

PS I am fully aware tax is not part of MSRP.  No need to explain on my part.

Edited January 22 by kksnowbear

[SharpeXB]

1 hour ago, kksnowbear said:

Fun (actual, real) fact, in context: The tax laws were changed (c.2016-18); several years before the 4090 was released (2022).  Allowing for possible exception (as one example, states that still don't charge taxes), it seems chronologically impossible that anyone got a 4090 without paying sales tax.

Laying that aside for a moment, the receipt you posted shows taxes were charged.

Indeed my post said that was several years ago, i.e. prior to 2016. I never claimed to have purchased the 4090 tax free. I guess the phrase “all those cards” was perhaps confusing but anyone in the US here would understand this didn’t apply in 2024. 

The situation was indeed totally unfair to “brick & mortar” stores. Places like Best Buy basically acted as showrooms for Amazon. 

[kksnowbear]

On 1/17/2025 at 10:21 AM, SharpeXB said:

I really don’t think I have. I wasn’t buying them from third party sites, I think every card I purchased before the 4090 was direct from EVGA. And before the pandemic. Of course I had to wait for them. I certainly never paid 25%-50% more than the MSRP like you mention. And shopping for the last 4090 they all seemed to be consistently priced. Funny all the 4090s now I see are more expensive than what I paid You can see some crazy prices on Amazon but again I didn’t shop there. 
The US does not have a VAT. Fun fact, until several years ago there was no sales tax here on anything you purchased online. So my previous gaming PC and these cards were all tax free. That’s changed now but it sure was great.

Here's the relevant part of your actual post.  You asserted two things: One, that you really didn't think you paid more than Nvidia's MSRP (though the 4090 receipt actually shows you did; AIB cards are almost always more than Nvidia's MSRP).

Two, you said "these cards were all tax free" after having mentioned 4090s specifically, and more than once.  I don't think it's much of a stretch to say that the comments imply you didn't pay tax for the 4090s, even if you arguably didn't state that outright.  Looks a lot like you were trying to say you didn't pay taxes, without actually saying it.

Maybe you want to make things more clear when you post.

Edited January 22 by kksnowbear

[SharpeXB]

3 hours ago, kksnowbear said:

The MSRP on a 4090 was 1599. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_40_series#:~:text=(FP32) performance.-,Release,16%2C 2022 for %241%2C199 US.

"The RTX 4090 was released as the first model of the series on October 12, 2022, launched for $1,599 US"

You paid $200 more, thus you did not get a 4090 for MSRP.

$1,599 was the MSRP on the base Nvidia card, not this Asus TUF OC version. I’m paying extra for “military grade aluminum” and fancy fans You’re not comparing like products.

The next screenshot is its MSRP direct from Asus. Lots of the other vendor models were at similar prices. Best Buy carried the base Nvidia cards for MSRP if I recall. 

[kksnowbear]

25 minutes ago, SharpeXB said:

$1,599 was the MSRP on the base Nvidia card, not this Asus TUF OC version. I’m paying extra for “military grade aluminum” and fancy fans You’re not comparing like products.

The next screenshot is its MSRP direct from Asus. Lots of the other vendor models were at similar prices. Best Buy carried the base Nvidia cards for MSRP if I recall. 

The Asus screenshot isn't dated in any way.  You have proof they were charging 1800 plus at intro (or that it's ever been Asus' stated MSRP, not what they happen to be charging now)?  Not to mention manufacturer's sites will always be among the highest pricesl...so it's not hard to claim you paid less than that.

The discussion as it applies here concerns Nvidia MSRP, not Asus.  You didn't get your card for the MSRP that Nvidia specifies, which furthers the concept that Nvidia's MSRP is just part of their bullsh*t marketing tactics.  The discussion here is that it is not an accurate representation of cost that the vast majority will be looking at - and thus a price/performance analysis based on that MSRP is also inaccurate.

At the end of the day, we can go back and forth, but most people are smart enough (and have seen enough out of Nvidia and the GPU market) to recognize what really goes on.  And many of the experienced, reputable reviewers have already said the 50 series is "meh".

Fake frames, less availability than any other release, making the odds of getting one anywhere near (ridiculous) MSRP for who-knows-how-long after release...lack of real data on 'non-magic' performance...on and on...

Edited January 22 by kksnowbear

[SharpeXB]

5 minutes ago, kksnowbear said:

The discussion as it applies here concerns Nvidia MSRP, not Asus.  You didn't get your card for the MSRP that Nvidia specifies, which furthers the concept that Nvidia's MSRP is just part of their bullsh*t marketing tactics.

You’re not comparing the same products. Vendors will have different MSRP for all their models and so will Nvidia. 

This card  
https://rog.asus.com/us/graphics-cards/graphics-cards/rog-astral/rog-astral-rtx5090-o32g-gaming/

is not going to have the same MSRP as this one. Which starts at $1,999. Notice how they say “starts at” 
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/50-series/rtx-5090/

But this one will be the same price as the above. Because it’s the same product. And if you want these low priced models you’ll need to click “Notify Me” and wait.
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-32gb-gddr7-graphics-card-dark-gun-metal/6614151.p?skuId=6614151

If you just gotta have it right now, then you’ll pay this!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/286264357761?_skw=nvidia+geforce+rtx+5090&itmmeta=01JJ7PGP2DB1MGKEA7FC0AMHXZ&hash=item42a6af7381:g:UM4AAOSw-MdnhAEl&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA8HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKmIsZYXU%2FxrRbSIdbBtA6rkc17CyNIbwn4LVJh6R8EP6mNwbe0sdJDN04%2B6wx5Af9bWjr2W8RwJn%2FMmYJ4pdNpyLzfyC0I0Y0jGo5LcF045ntKz3Env9ljA4%2Fy%2BhgwRgFsMVkCkj1mUlWuiwBjLICZI0%2BohBRsr9OzolKobOljA%2B3mNWHhGUSJsvxZwOTZwc2q%2BIiy34%2ByyomckQLCgDuCrtrlCg%2FEiP3foQ1Sr7J2dKNABnk3JLhGfP%2F04Ja%2B9KzDGM9T3Ctu1zGOQGllzDoQhVVhoox2hWwr9uip1MoDjxg%3D%3D|tkp%3ABFBMpuHC9pFl