EasternEagle Posted January 10 Posted January 10 Exactly like title says, nothing in VS,Boresight, even EO lock, nothing. 1 Modules : F-4E ā¢ JF-17Ā ā¢ F16Ā ā¢ F18Ā ā¢ F14Ā ā¢ F15EĀ ā¢ M-2000CĀ ā¢ Mirage F1Ā ā¢ A10CIIĀ ā¢ Black Shark 3Ā ā¢ HueyĀ ā¢ FC4 ā¢ K-4Ā ā¢ Mi-8MTV2Ā ā¢ Mi-24PĀ ā¢ ApacheĀ ā¢ ViggenĀ ā¢ SpitfireĀ ā¢ P-51 ā¢ CH-47FĀ ā¢ Kiowa ā¢ Terrains: AfghanĀ ā¢ SyriaĀ ā¢ PGĀ ā¢ SinaiĀ ā¢ Normandy 2.0Ā ā¢ South AtlanticĀ ā¢ The ChannelĀ ā¢ Normandy 1944Ā ā¢ NevadaĀ ā¢ Super Carrier ā¢ IraqĀ ā¢ System:Ā I7-13700KFĀ ā¢ 64GB DDR5-5600Ā ā¢ MSI RTX 4080 Ventus 3X OCĀ ā¢ Peripherals:Ā WinWing Orion 2 HOTAS MAX ā¢ WinWing Skywalker PedalsĀ ā¢ Oculus Quest 3Ā ā¢
razo+r Posted January 10 Posted January 10 (edited) 12 minutes ago, EasternEagle said: Exactly like title says, nothing in VS,Boresight, even EO lock, nothing. I cannot get a tone but I can get a LA. But you should still supply a short track. Edited January 10 by razo+r
EasternEagle Posted January 10 Author Posted January 10 Update, can get LA in ME on Caucuses might be mission specific to the MP server im on, gonna guess possible fog interference even though no fog in sight? Modules : F-4E ā¢ JF-17Ā ā¢ F16Ā ā¢ F18Ā ā¢ F14Ā ā¢ F15EĀ ā¢ M-2000CĀ ā¢ Mirage F1Ā ā¢ A10CIIĀ ā¢ Black Shark 3Ā ā¢ HueyĀ ā¢ FC4 ā¢ K-4Ā ā¢ Mi-8MTV2Ā ā¢ Mi-24PĀ ā¢ ApacheĀ ā¢ ViggenĀ ā¢ SpitfireĀ ā¢ P-51 ā¢ CH-47FĀ ā¢ Kiowa ā¢ Terrains: AfghanĀ ā¢ SyriaĀ ā¢ PGĀ ā¢ SinaiĀ ā¢ Normandy 2.0Ā ā¢ South AtlanticĀ ā¢ The ChannelĀ ā¢ Normandy 1944Ā ā¢ NevadaĀ ā¢ Super Carrier ā¢ IraqĀ ā¢ System:Ā I7-13700KFĀ ā¢ 64GB DDR5-5600Ā ā¢ MSI RTX 4080 Ventus 3X OCĀ ā¢ Peripherals:Ā WinWing Orion 2 HOTAS MAX ā¢ WinWing Skywalker PedalsĀ ā¢ Oculus Quest 3Ā ā¢
razo+r Posted January 10 Posted January 10 You'd have to test that, make a test at low level and one at high and see if it changes. Otherwise also a difference is when you are trying to lock a friendly. It won't give you LA if you have a radar lock. But again, best is to supply a short track.
sleestak Posted January 10 Posted January 10 I've had the same issue but haven't dug too far into it. Something has definitely changed. I can't get launch authorization with an R-60, R-73 or R-27T via a STT or other sensors (bore, vertical scan, etc). Longitudinal mode gives me a tone and an LA indication. I will try to investigate some more, but something does seem amiss. 1
AeriaGloria Posted January 11 Posted January 11 It is fog. You have to use launch permission override and guess when seeker has lockĀ Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join!Ā https://blacksharkden.com
Presing Posted January 12 Posted January 12 (edited) It is not a fog it is a BUG. I do not have to guess in what distance IR seeker has a lock, the system should say that. Edited January 12 by Presing Rocket brigade who retired F-117
sleestak Posted January 12 Posted January 12 On 1/10/2025 at 9:14 PM, AeriaGloria said: It is fog. You have to use launch permission override and guess when seeker has lockĀ A good suggestion, but I don't think it's the fog. I just tried a simple mission with fog on, auto, and off and the result was the same. No LA with IR equipped missiles except via launch override or longitudinal scan. Seems like a bug that was just introduced with the recent update.
sleestak Posted January 13 Posted January 13 Was able to achieve LA with IR missiles by changing my weather template from one of the Broken templates to an Overcast template. Seems to have something to do with the weather setting. Fog on/off doesn't seem to directly impact it. I will continue to try other variations tomorrow and see if I can spot a common pattern. 1
sleestak Posted January 17 Posted January 17 (edited) I have been unable to replicate this since, so maybe the issue was between the computer and the chair. I've been consistently getting LA in all weather settings and with fog. It's odd, since I've been flying the MiG-29 for years and years, so I immediately knew something wasn't functioning right. It seems almost like an IFF thing, but the only other aircraft in my mission was hostile. Not sure...maybe it will pop up again, but for now this is no longer impacting me. Edited January 17 by sleestak
okopanja Posted January 17 Posted January 17 Contention server is the best palce to try. And it is not a fog issue, it happens even at high altitudes with cold AB targets. @sleestakwe understood that works for you, good for you! Now please remain quiet and let multiple people having the same issue talk.
sleestak Posted January 17 Posted January 17 7 minutes ago, okopanja said: Contention server is the best palce to try. And it is not a fog issue, it happens even at high altitudes with cold AB targets. @sleestakwe understood that works for you, good for you! Now please remain quiet and let multiple people having the same issue talk. I wasn't saying it isn't an issue. I believe people are having this issue because it impacted me for some time. I was trying to help by isolating the issue and offering feedback, but I am no longer able to replicate it. It is a frustrating issue. Good luck, I will step out and allow you to continue investigating it.
okopanja Posted January 17 Posted January 17 1 minute ago, sleestak said: I wasn't saying it isn't an issue. I believe people are having this issue because it impacted me for some time. I was trying to help by isolating the issue and offering feedback, but I am no longer able to replicate it. It is a frustrating issue. Good luck, I will step out and allow you to continue investigating it. Still ok you can tell us with which weather profile/settings it works and on which map. I hope others will check the rest.
okopanja Posted January 17 Posted January 17 Here is the TRK file which reproduces the problem (Syria map!) @sleestakwhile we wait for the beta testers, please try this out and tell us does it work for you now. NO LA_PR.trk
okopanja Posted January 17 Posted January 17 NO LA_PR_Caucasus.trk Same here. Disabling FOG has no effect.
sleestak Posted January 18 Posted January 18 Okay, now it's back to its old antics of not giving LA @okopanjaĀ I wasn't able to check your track because I don't have the Su-27 FC3 module. I attached a very short MiG-29 Caucasus track where I can't get LA except in longitudinal mode. I tried many different combinations of weather presets and the result is always the same...no LA. Please let me know if your result is the same. MIG29_NOLA_R60_CAUCASUS.trk 1
Ironhand Posted January 18 Posted January 18 (edited) @okopanjaĀ I only had time to play the TRK from the Caucasus. In my viewing you had launch authorization from the moment you locked the target and it continued until you passed over the top of the target. Edited January 18 by Ironhand YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg Ā _____ Win 11 Pro x64, Asrock Z790 Steel Legend MoBo, Intel i7-13700K, MSI RKT 4070 Super 12GB, Corsair Dominator DDR5 RAM 32GB.
okopanja Posted January 18 Posted January 18 48 minutes ago, Ironhand said: @okopanjaĀ I only had time to play the TRK from the Caucasus. In my viewing you had launch authorization from the moment you locked the target and it continued until you passed over the top of the target. Let me reply trk myself (maybe in reply I do get PR). During flying I had not LA/PR at any time both on Caucasus and Syria...
okopanja Posted January 18 Posted January 18 (edited) God damn it, with trk it shows PR/LA Strange just got PR straight on Caucasus... Edited January 18 by okopanja
okopanja Posted January 18 Posted January 18 Preliminary result: you have to connect to Contention server first. Afterwards my mission does not show PR anymore... @sleestakONE BIG APOLOGY FROM ME TO YOU!
okopanja Posted January 18 Posted January 18 @Ironhand Steps to reproduce: Make sure DCS is not running Start DCS In multiplayer, connect to Contention server (syria 80s) On start screen click disconnect (you may even spawn, just connect and immediate disconnect is enough) Play trk (or open it as a mission), the PR will not appear anymore. One remark: I tried multiple servers on Caucasus and Syria, only on Contention this happened. Ā I took a look at their miz, file all the things that occur there are invoked from lua files loaded on their server. So likely something they do there affects the clients afterwards.
Ironhand Posted January 18 Posted January 18 1 hour ago, okopanja said: @Ironhand Steps to reproduce: Make sure DCS is not running Start DCS In multiplayer, connect to Contention server (syria 80s) On start screen click disconnect (you may even spawn, just connect and immediate disconnect is enough) Play trk (or open it as a mission), the PR will not appear anymore. One remark: I tried multiple servers on Caucasus and Syria, only on Contention this happened. Ā I took a look at their miz, file all the things that occur there are invoked from lua files loaded on their server. So likely something they do there affects the clients afterwards. I probably wonāt have the time to do that today. OTOH, your other (Syria) TRK played back as you recorded it. No lock. YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg Ā _____ Win 11 Pro x64, Asrock Z790 Steel Legend MoBo, Intel i7-13700K, MSI RKT 4070 Super 12GB, Corsair Dominator DDR5 RAM 32GB.
okopanja Posted January 18 Posted January 18 Its ok, btw meanwhike I did cleanup and repair, including disabling any of the mods. Still the same, will do full repair and try again.
stdsk Posted January 19 Posted January 19 I think there are two bugs in the fog settings. It's pretty confusing. Ā ļ¼Bug 1ļ¼ When playing a miz.file with fog set to auto, you can't get LA for IR missiles.Ā ļ¼Bug 2ļ¼ Once you play/replay a miz/trk.file with fog set to auto, other miz/trk.files seem to be also affected. You can't change the fog settings unless restarting DCS. Ā I've attached 3 trk.files below. They all have the same content, but I've only changed the fog settings. [Su27 fog off], [Su27 fog auto], [Su27 fog manual (thickness:0)] In my PC environment, I could get LA with [fog off] and [fog manual (thickness:0)], but not with [fog auto]. And if I replay [fog auto] first, I could not get LA even with [fog off] and [fog manual (thickness:0)]. Su27 fog off.trk Su27 fog auto.trk Su27 fog manual.trk
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