Original Handbook?

[Reflected]

Does anyone have an original 109K handbook in pdf? I found a couple online but they're all focusing on how to take the plane apart rather than the startup/ takeoff/ landing procedures. 

Thanks!

[d0ppler]

My german is rather poor, but I think you got some useful info here:
https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/threads/bf-109-k-4-handbook-and-db-605-dm-engine.58441/

 

Check out the documents m13katyusa2020 have attached. 2nd reply.

[Reflected]

23 minutes ago, d0ppler said:

My german is rather poor, but I think you got some useful info here:
https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/threads/bf-109-k-4-handbook-and-db-605-dm-engine.58441/

 

Check out the documents m13katyusa2020 have attached. 2nd reply.

Thanks, I've seen these, but it seems all of them are about the structure and assembly. I haven't found anything about the procedures.

 

[Slippa]

This any good to ya?

http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/techref/manuals/bf109g3.pdf

[Reflected]

33 minutes ago, Slippa said:

This any good to ya?

http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/techref/manuals/bf109g3.pdf

Thanks, but this doesn't have anything about procedures either.

[Slippa]

You had me looking around earlier. Thought I might have one on the bookshelf but no.

They are around, go for under a tenner here. Good luck. 

[Reflected]

21 minutes ago, Slippa said:

You had me looking around earlier. Thought I might have one on the bookshelf but no.

They are around, go for under a tenner here. Good luck. 

Can you tell me where I can get one? I'm happy to pay as long as I'm sure it's the version I need, that is, with the procedures.

[Cunctator]

Luftfahrt Archiv Hafner has the most comprehensive collection of scanned German WW2 era manuals for sale (all in German). What you are looking for is called "Bedienungs-Vorschrift Flugzeugführer" or "Bedienungs-Karte für den Flugzeugführer", the short version. This are the equivalentgs to English Pilot's manuals. As you have noticed German aircraft manuals, Flugzeughandbuch, are for maintenance stuff. 

https://luftfahrt-archiv-hafner.de

Edited Friday at 11:59 AM by Cunctator

[Gadreel]

The only one with procedures I found: http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/techref/manuals/bf109e.pdf 

 

[Slippa]

Just a quick look found me this one https://www.crecy.co.uk/pilot-s-notes-messerschmitt-me-109 

 

 

[IIIJG52_Otto_]

On 1/31/2025 at 12:58 PM, Cunctator said:

Luftfahrt Archiv Hafner has the most comprehensive collection of scanned German WW2 era manuals for sale (all in German). What you are looking for is called "Bedienungs-Vorschrift Flugzeugführer" or "Bedienungs-Karte für den Flugzeugführer", the short version. This are the equivalentgs to English Pilot's manuals. As you have noticed German aircraft manuals, Flugzeughandbuch, are for maintenance stuff. 

https://luftfahrt-archiv-hafner.de

i was purchased these K4 manuals, but the unfortunately they are only few chapters, they are incomplete.

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[IIIJG52_Otto_]

On 1/31/2025 at 12:31 PM, Reflected said:

Can you tell me where I can get one? I'm happy to pay as long as I'm sure it's the version I need, that is, with the procedures.

Even if we would give you the K4 operation manual, you could not do the real operational procedures,with the today FM, because you never could flight at cruise speed with neutral trim, as pilots did in wartime. By the way you can't set the elevator trim-tabs plates in "special settings" because they are deleted.

[Tzigy]

42 minutes ago, IIIJG52_Otto_ said:

Even if we would give you the K4 operation manual, you could not do the real operational procedures,with the today FM, because you never could flight at cruise speed with neutral trim, as pilots did in wartime. By the way you can't set the elevator trim-tabs plates in "special settings" because they are deleted.

Huh?