need track replay F16 RADAR & Data Link Broken

[Nuggetz]

If this has already been reported please ignore the following rant. 
 

Firstly I love the F16 and the work undertaken by ED. I have enjoyed countless hours in the Viper and fly it almost exclusively. 
 

However, since the last couple of updates the radar and DL do not function correctly. For example no targets visible at all on the radar or the target I am fighting disappears for prolonged periods even over the sea ( ie terrain is not the issue).  Data Link is also indicating the target is in one direction when in effect it is in a totally different direction. The highlighted DL target (octagon) jumping about all over the place. Additionally even when a target is in visual range the 9X either cannot get a lock or provide a tone. I know I am not alone with these issues as friends who also fly the Viper are experiencing the same sorts of problems. 
 

Any F16 drivers also experiencing these issues, can I please ask you to like this post so the breadth and depth of this problem can be indicated to ED. 
 

Given I have thousands of hours in the Viper with many thousands of kills it is NOT an operator error, I know the basics. I am delighted to provide a track file but it is likely to be a very large file as I fly in VR on busy MP servers. Please advise how to attach large track  files. 
 
Without wishing to be rude I am seeking a response beyond  “Correct as is” as the levels of frustration and exacerbation are off the scale. Many thanks in anticipation. 
 

 

 

[BIGNEWY]

Hi, 

if you are trying to report and bug please include a short track replay example of the issue and any evidence you have to support it. 

thank you 

[Nuggetz]

If this has already been reported please ignore the following rant. 
 

Firstly I love the F16 and the work undertaken by ED. I have enjoyed countless hours in the Viper and fly it almost exclusively. 
 

However, since the last couple of updates the radar and DL do not function correctly. For example no targets visible at all on the radar or the target I am fighting disappears for prolonged periods even over the sea ( ie terrain is not the issue).  Data Link is also indicating the target is in one direction when in effect it is in a totally different direction. The highlighted DL target (octagon) jumping about all over the place. Additionally even when a target is in visual range the 9X either cannot get a lock or provide a tone. I know I am not alone with these issues as friends who also fly the Viper are experiencing the same sorts of problems. I will concede that these issues are inconsistent and do not follow a standard pattern every flight, but there are issues which require attention. 
 

Any F16 drivers also experiencing these issues, can I please ask you to like this post so the breadth and depth of this problem can be indicated to ED. 
 

Given I have thousands of hours in the Viper with many thousands of kills it is NOT an operator error, I know the basics. I am delighted to provide a track file but it is likely to be a very large file as I fly in VR on busy MP servers. Please advise how to attach large track  files. 
 
Without wishing to be rude I am seeking a response beyond  “Correct as is” as the levels of frustration and exacerbation are off the scale. Many thanks in anticipation. 
 

 

 

[BIGNEWY]

threads merged

[Nuggetz]

Sorry can you please advise how I can attach a large track file from a MP server series of sorties. As mentioned the issues are in consistent and hence I cannot simply run a quick SP mission to reproduce on demand. Thank you. 

[BIGNEWY]

you can use a cloud link to attach a large track replay, but please note, servers that are using many scripts, mods or external data wont play back correctly. 

thank you 

[Lord Vader]

14 minutes ago, Nuggetz said:

Sorry can you please advise how I can attach a large track file from a MP server series of sorties. As mentioned the issues are in consistent and hence I cannot simply run a quick SP mission to reproduce on demand. Thank you. 

Hi @Nuggetz

Thank you for your time explaining what you're experiencing. However, just a description isn't sufficient to analyse what you are doing. We require a track replay to view your actions but, more important, what the simulation is doing. 

Now, regarding your comment above, like @BIGNEWYsaid, many servers run on mods and scripts that unfortunately break the replay system. If the issues you are mentioning are really that consistent, then you can easily reproduce in a simple SP mission. 

We've tested datalink display with the AWACS and other donors along with the FCR and, aside from the normal jamming, notching and other evading manoeuvres, the targets were correctly displayed as expected. 

[Nuggetz]

Thank you both for your replies. I shall investigate the cloud link option,  although I am unfamiliar with this,  and send the recent track file. 
I normally use GS and GR servers but I don’t know what mods, if any, are in use on these servers. The issues I have been experiencing happen in MP.

Please note two visits ago to the GS server I had a very successful number of sorties albeit with some issues. However, this morning on the GS server I felt like I was fighting with both hands behind my back, while closing my eyes . So not a consistent state of affairs. 
 

Once I have looked into the cloud link I will come back to you with the track file requested. Thanks again. 

 

 

[Nuggetz]

I have tried to review the track file before forwarding to you, but the file is corrupted and cannot be read. I have just flown a series of sorties on the GS server with no issues so I am unable to send a track file. If nothing else these issues are inconsistent and highly frustrating. 
 

I will monitor and the next time I experience issues attempt to forward that track file. 
 

regards 

[Nuggetz]

I have tried to produce a track file, the first MP file was corrupted and unreadable, the second, a SP version, recorded different events to what was actually flown. 
In the SP version I engaged 5 x Mig 23 where radar information and DL tracks were not visible or patchy. Missile lethality and reliability was far worse than historically experienced. I landed after 5 victories rearmed and took off with a ground attack weapons but with the aim of shooting down a IL-76 on the way. Again poor radar returns (large target!) even no return within 10 miles switching to dogfight gained a lock and back to missile override to fire 2 x 120C. The SP replay had me shot down while engaging 5 x Mig 23 (which did not happen), thus eliminating the remainder of the mission. 
 

Therefore I am at a loss to provide the evidence you require to support shortfalls in radar/DL performance. Furthermore, changes in missile reliability and lethality are now evident in both MP and SP modes. There are definitely changes to the Viper radar/DL tracks vs the historical performance over the last 4+ years and not for the better. 
 

I do know other PvP players that have experienced the same sorts of issues, so I know I am not alone with my concerns. Naturally if I can provide a representative track file I will forward it accordingly. 

[Nuggetz]

Having been prompted to clarify if these issues have been resolved the answer is no. As I explained above I have made two unsuccessful attempts to provide a track file. 
Additionally, there is at least one other thread expressing concern that the data link is broken to which I have added my support. If I can successfully link to a representative track file I will in due course.