HR-Crumble Posted February 5 Posted February 5 Hi all, I have noticed that since I believe the above update I am seeing black flickering on half the screen of my monitor and also insane artefacts in game. Eventually they go. Black flickering is half the whole display. Attached is a photo of the artefacting taken today. I have had it verified that others in my group have seen the same artefacts recently as well. I have tested the following: - it happens in all modules - it happens on all maps - I’m using track ir - I have nuked and redone my drivers (AMD 7800XT) - have nuked DXO/Meta and tried reshade on/off - happens on both MSAA and FSR - have changed resolutions - black flickering mainly happens on the ground when taxiing and artefacting mainly in the air - issue persists after todays (5/2/25) mini update - have ensured W11 is up to date and has no GPU power management settings affecting it. - it happens with and without reshade. - it does not happen in other games. - have tried other monitors and cables just in case.
rob10 Posted February 5 Posted February 5 All kinds of reports on that if you look around here. It should be fixed in the next actual core update (today was campaign update only). 1 1
HR-Crumble Posted February 5 Author Posted February 5 19 minutes ago, rob10 said: All kinds of reports on that if you look around here. It should be fixed in the next actual core update (today was campaign update only). Yes I’ve just seen the Saturn ring one reported and have read all 6 pages but no one mentioned the black flickering?
Flappie Posted February 6 Posted February 6 20 hours ago, rob10 said: It should be fixed in the next actual core update (today was campaign update only). Unfortunately, the attempted fix was unsuccessful. Devs are still looking for a solution. @HR-Crumble Can you please share a DCS track of the black flicker? We need to reproduce it in order to report it. 2 ---
HR-Crumble Posted February 7 Author Posted February 7 11 hours ago, Flappie said: Unfortunately, the attempted fix was unsuccessful. Devs are still looking for a solution. @HR-Crumble Can you please share a DCS track of the black flicker? We need to reproduce it in order to report it. Will do - I cleared out my trks last night as the folder was over 10gig and our mission last night no one had any flickering. Everything was the same as normal except fog was turned off. don’t know if that’s a clue for you and the dev team? Fog may be causing it. I know it causes a lot image issues for VR players also. I’ll try fog on again and then post a track.
DmitriKozlowsky Posted February 8 Posted February 8 My 'black flicker' comes in two flavors. A subtle flicker that looks like fast dimming/undimming, and slow black-out, lasting for some seconds. The slow blackout is more of an issue. My GPU is RTX 3070Ti 8gb. In Task Manager undr 3D , during DCS play, following; Dedicated GPU is nearly maxed out of 8GB. With varying amount of Shared GPU Memory , set to 24 GB, GPU temp during play is 75C - 79C. There is no overclocking. Using latest Nvidia reference drivers. GPU is Founder's Edition from Nvidia. Under GPU 3D level, in Task Manager, during 'blackpout' there 3D workload drops to 0 and remains for random number of seconds, while game plays. Audio keeps working. Then DCS comes back, working as normal. Until next black out. Its random, in all theaters, and with all aircraft. DLSS is OFF AA is OFF
Flappie Posted February 8 Posted February 8 (edited) On 2/7/2025 at 8:47 AM, HR-Crumble said: don’t know if that’s a clue for you and the dev team? Fog may be causing it. I know it causes a lot image issues for VR players also. I’ll try fog on again and then post a track. In this thread, missions were using both fog and dynamic weather. I tried the same missions without dynamic weather and I couldn't reproduce the issue. Please check the missions you play and ensure Dynamic weather is disabled, for it is obsolete (it will be updated in time). On 2/8/2025 at 8:04 AM, DmitriKozlowsky said: My 'black flicker' comes in two flavors. A subtle flicker that looks like fast dimming/undimming, and slow black-out, lasting for some seconds. The slow blackout is more of an issue. [...] during 'blackpout' there 3D workload drops to 0 and remains for random number of seconds, while game plays. Audio keeps working. Then DCS comes back, working as normal. Until next black out. Its random, in all theaters, and with all aircraft. It sounds like your PC goes into Eco mode. Ensure your Windows power plan is set to High/Max Performance and report back if it's still happening. Edited February 9 by Flappie typo ---
okopanja Posted February 8 Posted February 8 Some additional info from my side: - 8GB 2070 Super here - happens on all maps and modules - it appears that the artifacts are produced by destroyed objects, most typically it happens where some unit on ground got destroyed. - the "rings" can be either vertical or horizontal, if horizontal its usually positioned above the ground level 1
Flappie Posted February 8 Posted February 8 1 minute ago, okopanja said: Some additional info from my side: - 8GB 2070 Super here - happens on all maps and modules - it appears that the artifacts are produced by destroyed objects, most typically it happens where some unit on ground got destroyed. - the "rings" can be either vertical or horizontal, if horizontal its usually positioned above the ground level Hey @okopanja! Are you talking about black screen episodes or only the brown crater being extended across the map? The latter bug is not discussed here for it has its own thread. I'll rename the present thread for clarity. 1 ---
okopanja Posted February 8 Posted February 8 Thanks will check that one as well, this one caught my eye due to the screenshot.
DmitriKozlowsky Posted February 9 Posted February 9 19 hours ago, Flappie said: In this thread, missions were using borth fog and dynamic weather. I tried the same missions without dynamic weather and I couldn't reproduce the issue. Please check the missions you play and ensure Dynamic weather is disabled, for it is obsolete (it will be updated in time). It sounds like your PC goes into Eco mode. Ensure your Windows power plan is set to High/Max Performance and report back if it's still happening. On my Win10 Pro 64 Win1-.0.19043.2364 Eco Mode is unavailable. It does not show up under Task Manager/Detail/ process right click menu My Windows power plan is max.
DmitriKozlowsky Posted February 9 Posted February 9 I am noticing a corelation between DCS 'black screen' and simutaneous running of YouTUbe videos.
HR-Crumble Posted February 20 Author Posted February 20 @Flappie just wanted to give you a little testing update that I have done for the black screen flicker. I have managed to find some new evidence and I believe the culprit to be anything smoke/or particle physics related. NB * I saw the same vertical ‘saturns rings’ and black half screen flicker on the new patch on 4YA last night so the patch hasn’t stopped the flicker or artifacting. Here is my testing: 1. Modules tested on and verified same issue occurs - Apache, Kiowa, Phantom, A-10Cii, Hornet, Viper, Fulcrum A+S, SU-25A, Chinook, P-47, P-51, Combined Arms. 2. Maps tested and verified same issue occurs - all terrains tested except for Kola and NTTR. Worse on Syria and Iraq. 3. I have worked out how to replicate the issue - originally I thought it was just the new fog, but now it occurs in testing with dust cloud set at any range and thick cloud settings. I have ALSO now worked out via testing that it happens when using smoky engines and you look at an aircraft which had smoky engines especially from front on or rear on - namely I can force the issue when looking the F4, Mig-29 and seen it on the SU-25. If I put any one of those elements listed above in a miz either on their own or together then I can reproduce the black screen issue. If I turn off fog/dust/heavy cloud and choose a less smoky engine then I cannot reproduce the issue. My parameters: 5600x/7800xt 16Gb/64Gb/SSD/Win 11. I have verified the issue also happened on Windows 10 and then under a fresh install of DCS and Windows 11. Items I have eliminated as a baseline: - no over clocking. - operating temps within manufacturers and board parameters. - Ample PSU wattage. - Tried a different monitor at 1080 instead of usual monitor at 1440p. - GPU and mobo drivers up to date including bios. - Nuked meta and shader folders. - No mods installed. - No image enhancement overlays. - checked Windows power settings/eco settings. - Only happens under DCS. - MP and SP. - Have tried all DCS graphics settings and effects set to off and low where possible. - 2D with TiR - I do not use VR. Finally I always ask others in my group if they see the same issue as that’s always a decent indicator as it’s platform agnostic - answer, yes they do I hope that helps - please feel free to DM if you need more details etc. Crumble. 1
DmitriKozlowsky Posted February 22 Posted February 22 I just updated DCS ro latest. Fresh install on latest RTX Nvidia ref drivers. Intalled latest fresh Cinebench24. Ran Cinebech GPU stress. Let it run full 10 minute cycle. No problems, no stutters, no black screens, no 3D dropouts. Cinebech uses Redshift engine for GPU. Wiped DCS metashaders. Ran DCS. Got few black screen drop outs here and there . There is a Windows wide CNTRL-SHIFT-Win B function to 'wakeup' the driver. I seem to get more black screen drops if I am playing YouTUbe in background. DCS.exe is set to High or Realtime. So issue is inside DCS. Probably.
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