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AI Aircraft crash on approach to Kabul airport from the west.  There is a mountain on the approach that the aircraft crash into as if they don't even see it.

Bagram should be able to handle a C-5 

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Hi @CRUD, could you please provide a track?  I do not have any issue with the Kabul-West approach with the C-17.Kabul-west C-17.jpg

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On 2/24/2025 at 8:49 AM, f-18hornet said:

Hi @CRUD, could you please provide a track?  I do not have any issue with the Kabul-West approach with the C-17.

It just happened again with the MAM C-17A.  The altitude for the approach to this peak is set at 8000, the peak is under 7000.

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On 2/24/2025 at 4:49 PM, f-18hornet said:

Hi @CRUD, could you please provide a track?  I do not have any issue with the Kabul-West approach with the C-17.

Here's the track:

Kabul_CFIT.trk

Edit: OP beat me to it 🙂 

 

14 minutes ago, CRUD said:

with the MAM C-17A

You mean the stock C-17A? Because MAM don't have any C-17.

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Hi, 

it looks like a weight / high altitude airfield issue, if the aircraft is set to 30% fuel there is no issue. 

Altitude of airport is 1,791 m (5,876 ft) so its weight needs to be considered carefully.

 

Kabul_CFIT-30percent of fuel OK.trk Kabul_CFIT-50percent of fuel crash.trk

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2 hours ago, BIGNEWY said:

Hi, 

it looks like a weight / high altitude airfield issue, if the aircraft is set to 30% fuel there is no issue. 

Altitude of airport is 1,791 m (5,876 ft) so its weight needs to be considered carefully.

 

Kabul_CFIT-30percent of fuel OK.trk 51.73 kB · 0 downloads Kabul_CFIT-50percent of fuel crash.trk 47.93 kB · 0 downloads

This would be relevant for ground roll, take off and climb-out ( and in case of a go-around) , but not so much for descent & approach.

If the aircraft is able to maintain cruise altitude at high gross weights, it should sure be able to perform a  descent with a suitable descent rate to clear terrain on approach to the airport, as the engine and lift performance required for that is less. 

If the CFIT end  result is still weight-dependent it seems something else is off , like for example the AI using a fixed  powersetting or speed for approach regardless of  its current grossweight , which is unrealistic and not what human pilots do.

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