** UPDATED VERSION ON PAGE 3** Marked up map with SAM sites, air and helo bases etc

[Mr_sukebe]

I've just done some more testing.

With SAMs at 31 of the identified sites and additional smaller units at some of the airfields (e.g. Sa6s) and the mission is basically unplayable on my PC.  The GPU is fine.  The CPU is simply flattened.  I've just tried running the same mission on a dedicated server and then logging in, it was no better.

So I'm going to be sticking with the slimmed down version that I've uploaded earlier (v.3 and newer).

[mmarques]

5 hours ago, Blackbahia said:

Yes, they are...look in the list from Essah

I must be blind, I only see HAWK, SA-3 and SA-5 on that list.

Edited Sunday at 01:13 PM by mmarques
Removed duplication.

[Essah]

Updated

* I had moved Patriot and SA-2 locations to Hawk and SA-3 respectively, thinking it was a mistake given that the layout of the sites is of SA-3 and HAwk type, but I have now added it back in with clarification. Seems that Ugra did not create the correct unique layouts for Patriot and SA-2

* added additional sites reported.
* added some otherwise unmarked NATO radar sites

[Blackbahia]

vor einer Stunde schrieb mmarques:

I must be blind, I only see HAWK, SA-3 and SA-5 on that list.

nullThey are east of Gießen and near Hameln

[mmarques]

20 minutes ago, Blackbahia said:

nullThey are east of Gießen and near Hameln

Yes as the post above yours shows, the OP just re-added them, they were not there when I posted.

Thank you

[Blackbahia]

vor 2 Stunden schrieb mmarques:

Yes as the post above yours shows, the OP just re-added them, they were not there when I posted.

Thank you

nullBut they were in my post on the second page. Essah has addet our search results to his list, so we've all one overview.

[Essah]

31 minutes ago, Blackbahia said:

nullBut they were in my post on the second page. Essah has addet our search results to his list, so we've all one overview.

 

I had them removed for a while because I thought it was a mistake, and that's when Null was looking at it.

[Ian Boys UK]

UPDATED VERSION OF THE AIRBASE AND SAM MAP with thanks to Essah and others in this thread



 

1985 MARKED.miz

[Blackbahia]

Varnckevitz Radar Site  - NE Ruegen island - UA95

[S3ntry]

Love the positivity around this map and the support of the community!!

I've also created an in depth version of East Germany with SAM/EWR sites, Training Grounds and HQs. Infos on regiments and equipment used all in the IPs visible in the ME. Added some scripts like MIST, MOOSE, Skynet, CTLD and Splash Damage. Hope this helps future mission builders

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3344411/

 

[Mr_sukebe]

I found this site quite interesting:

https://geimint.blogspot.com/2008/08/ddr-air-defense-cold-war-case-study.html

[winghunter]

16 minutes ago, Mr_sukebe said:

I found this site quite interesting:

https://geimint.blogspot.com/2008/08/ddr-air-defense-cold-war-case-study.html

Why didnt they use the elevation of Thüringer Wald and Harz for setting up elevated defenses

[Essah]

Updated list.

If the moderator hadn't merged my thread with the other one, my master list would have been OP on page one, but what do I know.

[qmpz12353]

2025/4/18 AM10点28分，Blackbahia说：

I've only found this kmz file with the postions of the SAM sites ColdWarIADS10182024.kmz

Could be a reference if the data is correct.

[Mr_sukebe]

Have updated my sandbox mission and have attached it if it helps anyone.  Key updates are:

• Added markings on the F10 map for locations of fixed Soviet SAM sites.  By fixed, that means the SA2, SA3 and SA5 sites.  SA6 are mobile and are NOT marked
• Added what appears to be the expected route(s) for a Soviet advance using the Fulda gap.  For that route, have added target points for rail bridges that would likely be used to supply forward Soviet units
• Tidied up the positioning of the SA2 and SA3 sites
• New AI quick reaction flights on each side

In the new few days, I'll be updating with pickzones and similar to aid with CTLD.

Germany - 1985 - v.4.miz

[Northstar98]

4 minutes ago, Mr_sukebe said:

SA6 are mobile and are NOT marked

There should be a prepared SA-6 position south of Erfut. Clearly visible in historical satellite imagery. There should be another likely one here (though SAMSiteOverview has this as a prepared SA-8 site).

[Oesau]

@Mr_sukebe hope you don't mind but I've updated your mission so that the blue units/groups are named correctly to show what they are rather than SA2/3/6 that  were showing incorrectly for blue assets. The numbers are a bit all over the place but at least on the map they are now named what the actual group is

Germany - 1985 - v.5.miz

[Mr_sukebe]

8 hours ago, Oesau said:

@Mr_sukebe hope you don't mind but I've updated your mission so that the blue units/groups are named correctly to show what they are rather than SA2/3/6 that  were showing incorrectly for blue assets. The numbers are a bit all over the place but at least on the map they are now named what the actual group is

Germany - 1985 - v.5.miz 590.21 kB · 3 downloads

Hey, that’s cool, go for it.

As mentioned, this is just a sandbox, with some of the groundwork done, so feel free to play with it and use it how you wish.