Monitor if money were no object (converting from triple 32)

[Vitamin_J94]

Can someone point me to a thread as I'm sure this topic has been discussed ad nauseum but I cannot find anything newer than 20+mos. After months of trying to make my beloved triple 32s work, I have decided to start a new. I have a 4090 with 64GB ram and WW MIP and using OpenTrack. Which monitor would you buy if you had only one hobby and this was it? Thanks

[kksnowbear]

Can you specify the resolution of your current monitors, please?  What model are they (or type panels; VA, IPS, etc)

Also it would be prudent to know whether your intended result is same, higher or lower resolution than what your current arrangement provides.

Edited Wednesday at 06:18 PM by kksnowbear

[Vitamin_J94]

I'm currently running 7680x1440. I need much more vertical POV than this arrangement unless I'm missing something. New here and open to suggestions

Edited Wednesday at 06:24 PM by Vitamin_J94

[kksnowbear]

Ah...so it sounds as if you're interested in 4k resolution (that is, 2160 on the vertical or "short side")...correct?

Do you intend to try getting approaching a similar aspect ratio?  If so, probably important to keep in mind that the total resolution will increase a *lot*.  And while the 4090 is a magnificent card (I use one and have owned three), there's going to be a fairly big resulting hit on performance.

[Qcumber]

Are you sure money is now object? 

[kksnowbear]

28 minutes ago, Vitamin_J94 said:

I need much more vertical POV than this arrangement unless I'm missing something.

Your "in-game" vertical field of vision is precisely the same as anyone running a 1440p monitor.  It's a myth that you're "losing" anything by running a ultrawide type aspect ratio.

Moreover, since you're already at 1440p, the only way to increase resolution is go to 4k (or some variant of 2160 "short side") - which, as above, if you want to keep a similar aspect ratio, the resulting resolution would then obviously require much more of your GPU (though I don't know that anyone even makes such a monitor that's bigger than 32").  Just something to think about (and I speak from first hand experience).  You can go to a 4k at 16:9 but you'd be sacrificing the 300% horizontal FOV you paid to get from three monitors - and only gaining 50% in the vertical.

(FWIW I use a Samsung Odyssey G9 49" 32:9/5120x1440 monitor).

Edited Wednesday at 06:49 PM by kksnowbear

[Vitamin_J94]

Thank you for the thoughtful reply. I don't get a ton of value from the extra wide view (converting from simracing) so I think the trade makes sense. I should be good with a high quality 16:9 monitor? 

With regard to money being no object, I mean within reason. I am not afraid to invest but I'm not looking for a $50k commercial setup.

[SharpeXB]

This one in my sig. Absolutely perfect!

https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-48gq900-b-gaming-monitor

[LucShep]

2 hours ago, Vitamin_J94 said:

Can someone point me to a thread as I'm sure this topic has been discussed ad nauseum but I cannot find anything newer than 20+mos. After months of trying to make my beloved triple 32s work, I have decided to start a new. I have a 4090 with 64GB ram and WW MIP and using OpenTrack. Which monitor would you buy if you had only one hobby and this was it? Thanks

 

hmmm...  tough one.

For me that would be a huge screen with a nice pronounced curvature (much nicer immersion for simming - if you already tried it, you know it's better).
I'd say, it would have to be 16:9 screen format, 4K resolution and a good quality panel at that, with gaming focused features (high refresh, VRR, good motion handling, etc). 

And, actually, there's one model like that already...

Honestly, I'd take a good look at the 2nd gen of the Samsung Odyssey Ark 55'':  

https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/gaming/55-odyssey-ark-2nd-gen-4k-uhd-165hz-1ms-quantum-mini-led-curved-gaming-screen-ls55cg970nnxgo/

 

 

Edited Wednesday at 08:02 PM by LucShep

[kksnowbear]

On 6/4/2025 at 3:04 PM, Vitamin_J94 said:

Thank you for the thoughtful reply. I don't get a ton of value from the extra wide view (converting from simracing) so I think the trade makes sense. I should be good with a high quality 16:9 monitor? 

With regard to money being no object, I mean within reason. I am not afraid to invest but I'm not looking for a $50k commercial setup.

It may be true that ultrawides are more appropriate to simracing environments, given their extra FOV in the horizontal.  I'm just not a fan of claims that ultrawides "lose" something in the vertical.  As I illustrated earlier, they don't lose anything provided you're comparing apples-to-apples at the same vertical resolution (and why would anyone do anything else but apples-to-apples?)  That claim is misguided, ignores empirical data, and is more of an optical illusion that it is even close to fact.

An ultrawide monitor looks like it's not as tall because of it's aspect ratio, but resolution is what determines what you see in-game.  For example, my G9 shows me exactly as much of the game as any 1440p 16:9 monitor in the vertical - and it shows twice as much in the horizontal.  In fact, 33% more than even a 4k monitor in the horizontal (5120 vs 3840).

Consider that there's nowhere in the game that you enter your monitor's physical size.  That's because the game doesn't know or care what size monitor you have - all it knows is how many pixels high, times how many pixels wide.  That pixel count determines what you see (without turning your head); the FOV or viewport, if you will.

If you feel you'd be happy with a 16:9 aspect ratio, then there's little doubt that a 4k OLED display (size as you prefer/budget allows) is the way to go.  However, if you want something curved and larger than say ~48", OLED isn't likely an option.

Be aware also that it's misleading for anyone to suggest that you can't use monitors >48" in a flight sim environment - even on a desktop.  Military aircraft commonly feature displays, gauges, and controls at and even below knee level, and obviously what a pilot sees goes well below typical desktop height - a fact that using monitor stands like yours (and other creative approaches) can be set up to reflect nicely, especially if one doesn't have the physical displays etc...so buy whatever size your budget permits  

Edited yesterday at 02:19 PM by kksnowbear

[kksnowbear]

1 hour ago, LucShep said:

And, actually, there's one model like that already...

Honestly, I'd take a good look at the 2nd gen of the Samsung Odyssey Ark 55'':

This is something that I've been considering for quite some time.

I just wish it offered a better panel than VA (if I'm not mistaken), plus even though at 4k its an increase in vertical resolution, I'm actually losing 33% in horizontal FOV  compared to my current G9.

But I may do it yet  (and even though it's 55" my measurements indicate conclusively that will fit quite nicely over my desktop once mounted properly, yet never come close to my knees, and still put my eye line at/near the actual industry expert-recommended top edge of the monitor vs the center... )

Edited Wednesday at 09:00 PM by kksnowbear

[LucShep]

3 hours ago, kksnowbear said:

This is something that I've been considering for quite some time.

I just wish it offered a better panel than VA (if I'm not mistaken)
 

Yes, that's true. It's VA but that's a really good premium panel there, and Samsung does handle VA better than most, especially at these very large sizes.

Having had the older 55'' NU8500 with less pronounced curvature, which was also VA (and did have an awesome panel for the time), I'd say that 2nd gen Odyssey Ark 55 is certainly worth a look.

I've often entertained the idea of a 48'' or 55'' OLED in the front of my own desk. But, as good as OLED does look (and I've tried plenty), I've decided to refrain on the idea.

Simply because, after using a really big 16:9 curved monitor, the big flat monitor always make you feel that something is missing (I'm using a Philips 50'' 4K TV, so that's first hand experience).

The 55'' panel was a bit too big for my own personal (desk) use and the only single reason I got rid of it - years later I still often regret it.

But if it was for a sim rig and with no budget limit, I'd definitely pick that Odyssey Ark 55. There's nothing else like it in the market.

I've only saw one working once in a expo (and was the older 1st gen) and I think it's fantastic for this type of hobby, IMHO. 

Whatever you end up deciding to get, and if you're not restricted by budget, don't miss the oportunity to first check on it.
 

Edited Wednesday at 11:30 PM by LucShep

[kksnowbear]

1 hour ago, LucShep said:

But, as good as OLED does look (and I've tried plenty) I've decided to refrain on the idea.

Simply because, after having using a big 16:9 curved monitor, the big flat monitor always make you feel that something is missing

Yup.  And this is why I strongly prefer curved over flat panels (even though I still think the 21:9 and 32:9s are more immersive than 16:9s that are available).  The Ark 55 gets points for sheer size and a 1000R curve; if you do the math a 55" panel is comparable to even the G9 in the physical FOV...plus it's 4k and yes a very good panel even if it's VA...

I often think I should've jumped at the $1450 mark a few months ago...but it may come back around in time.

What I really wish is the Ark 55 was an OLED panel...lol but then it would cost like 8 billion dollars and I couldn't afford it anyhow   

Edited Wednesday at 09:58 PM by kksnowbear

[kksnowbear]

@Vitamin_J94

Here's something that might be worth a look:

https://www.newegg.com/samsung-ls57cg952nnxza-57-duhd-240-hz-odyssey-neo-g9-va-white/p/N82E16824027274?Item=N82E16824027274&SoldByNewegg=1

(Just happens to be a NewEgg link, I don't make anything from any source for it and it's also available from Amazon and other places too)

It caught my eye since it's the same type Samsung VA panel as discussed above, at 4k in the vertical (50% more pixels than your current setup) ...but with *twice*(!) the horizontal pixels as 4k (7680, the same horizontal FOV as you're accustomed to).   So you gain in the vertical without losing in the horizontal.

If I'm looking at things correctly, it would be roughly the same physical height as your 32s; something like ~16" (and actually a bit more, if I'm not mistaken).  And with that magnificent 1000R curve.  Immersion like no other  

Maybe worth considering.  Of course, if you just prefer to go to a 16x9 aspect ratio and still get 4k vertical pixel count, there's always the Ark 55 as above

Best of luck to you, whatever you choose.

Edited Thursday at 01:48 PM by kksnowbear

[Nightdare]

On 6/4/2025 at 7:16 PM, Vitamin_J94 said:

Can someone point me to a thread as I'm sure this topic has been discussed ad nauseum but I cannot find anything newer than 20+mos. After months of trying to make my beloved triple 32s work, I have decided to start a new. I have a 4090 with 64GB ram and WW MIP and using OpenTrack. Which monitor would you buy if you had only one hobby and this was it? Thanks

 

If money was no object,... VR

More immersion, less real estate and probably cheaper than 180 degrees of HQ monitors while having full spherical view

[TheBiggerBass]

Am 5.6.2025 um 15:27 schrieb kksnowbear:

@Vitamin_J94

Here's something that might be worth a look:

https://www.newegg.com/samsung-ls57cg952nnxza-57-duhd-240-hz-odyssey-neo-g9-va-white/p/N82E16824027274?Item=N82E16824027274&SoldByNewegg=1

I have it since Nov 2024 and recommend it for gaming and daily work. I wouldn't go back to any other monitor.

Atm I'm looking for a solution how to stack two of them.

Edited yesterday at 02:24 PM by TheBiggerBass

[SharpeXB]

3 hours ago, Nightdare said:

If money was no object,... VR

Well no amount of money will make VR perform well, so… better stick with a monitor.

Personally I wouldn’t spend a huge sum of money on a screen that wasn’t an OLED. G-Sync support is also a must-have feature for any high refresh screen IMO. It’s possible that Nvidia cards will support FreeSync on some monitors but in my experience it didn’t happen. 
 

Edited 22 hours ago by SharpeXB