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Hope you all are doing well! I have not yet graduated to the F-14 or Supercarrier modules and just acquired the Kola map to investigate early 1980s cold war scenarios to accompany the Cold War Germany map, but I noticed that we seem to be missing a lot of assets to make more enjoyable scenarios.

When I bought DCS back in the fall, I noticed that we had the Tu-95, Tu-142, and Tu-22M3 but did not have the Tu-16 variants (missile, bomber, tanker) or earlier bombers, like the Tu-22 Blinder. We also do not seem to have the Su-15 Flagon interceptors or Tu-126 Moss AWACS from that early 1980s era that might have provided limited-range escorts to the bombers.  Through a more extended campaign, and if the Soviets were successful seizing certain Norwegian airfields, would they base those Su-15 Flagons to escort the bombers on CVBG attacks?

Unfortunately, DCS does not have much to offer for naval aviation in that era:
1. We have an S-3 but no P-3, IL-38, etc., which would be good additions.  I may have skipped over it, but do we have the A-6 and A-7?
2. American naval assets are limited to 1990s era cruisers and destroyers so a few from the 1980s might be good for the CVBG, along with more Norwegian, Swedish, and Finish naval assets.
3. For targets, we have a Grisha, Moskva, Kilo sub, Ropucha, and some civilian craft (Maybe the Kremlin/Brezhnev CVN we already have also?). 
4. Would more docked SSBNs, SSNs, SSGNs, SSGs, and SSs be good targets at the port (or at sea for those that must remain surfaced to guide missiles)?
5. At sea with threatening SAM systems and as targets, would the CV Kiev; BCGN Kirov; CG Kara, Kresta II; CL Sverdlov; DDG Udaloy, Sovremennyy, Kashin, Kanin; FFG Krivak II; and lesser transports that might be part of the amphibious landing force target (Urga, Modified Andhizan, Dubna, Boris Chilikin, Anguema, Yuniy Partuzab, etc.) be good additions? 
 
I will have to check whether the hangar modules are "breakable," but it might be interesting to create a scenario with F-16s and F-5s defending Andoya (Norwegian P-3C airbase) to see how many survive a Soviet missile attack (not counting the P-3s flying on the Bear Island ASW barrier or elsewhere)?

Clear skies and may the wind be at your back . . . except when taking off and landing!

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A-6 and A-7 coming as future FF modules by 3rd parties. About ASW aircrafts, missing all ASW funtionality on DCS, Torpedoes has very limited (has none guided), and Subs has only a "atrezzo" (Working as a ship). Has some stuff missing from Lomac / FC, and ED has on progress to rebuild them. But yes, missing many Cold War assets.

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6 hours ago, JoeT-2024 said:

Hope you all are doing well! I have not yet graduated to the F-14 or Supercarrier modules and just acquired the Kola map to investigate early 1980s cold war scenarios to accompany the Cold War Germany map, but I noticed that we seem to be missing a lot of assets to make more enjoyable scenarios.

When I bought DCS back in the fall, I noticed that we had the Tu-95, Tu-142, and Tu-22M3 but did not have the Tu-16 variants (missile, bomber, tanker) or earlier bombers, like the Tu-22 Blinder. We also do not seem to have the Su-15 Flagon interceptors or Tu-126 Moss AWACS from that early 1980s era that might have provided limited-range escorts to the bombers.  Through a more extended campaign, and if the Soviets were successful seizing certain Norwegian airfields, would they base those Su-15 Flagons to escort the bombers on CVBG attacks?

Unfortunately, DCS does not have much to offer for naval aviation in that era:
1. We have an S-3 but no P-3, IL-38, etc., which would be good additions.  I may have skipped over it, but do we have the A-6 and A-7?

The A-6, and A-7 are on the way, as are the A-1 and F-8.

6 hours ago, JoeT-2024 said:


2. American naval assets are limited to 1990s era cruisers and destroyers so a few from the 1980s might be good for the CVBG, along with more Norwegian, Swedish, and Finish naval assets.

This is something I have complained about as well. I'd love to have a 1980s Iowa-class refit, Virginia-class cruisers, pre-VLS Tico, Spruance and Kidd-class destroyers for the 1980s. With the A-1 and F-8 I'd love do see some Vietnam era ships as well. 

6 hours ago, JoeT-2024 said:


3. For targets, we have a Grisha, Moskva, Kilo sub, Ropucha, and some civilian craft (Maybe the Kremlin/Brezhnev CVN we already have also?). 

We need more ships over all. Right now we don't have any Soviet/Russian destroyers 

6 hours ago, JoeT-2024 said:


4. Would more docked SSBNs, SSNs, SSGNs, SSGs, and SSs be good targets at the port (or at sea for those that must remain surfaced to guide missiles)?
5. At sea with threatening SAM systems and as targets, would the CV Kiev; BCGN Kirov; CG Kara, Kresta II; CL Sverdlov; DDG Udaloy, Sovremennyy, Kashin, Kanin; FFG Krivak II; and lesser transports that might be part of the amphibious landing force target (Urga, Modified Andhizan, Dubna, Boris Chilikin, Anguema, Yuniy Partuzab, etc.) be good additions? 
 
I will have to check whether the hangar modules are "breakable," but it might be interesting to create a scenario with F-16s and F-5s defending Andoya (Norwegian P-3C airbase) to see how many survive a Soviet missile attack (not counting the P-3s flying on the Bear Island ASW barrier or elsewhere)?

Clear skies and may the wind be at your back . . . except when taking off and landing!

 

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Thank you again for your replies!
 
It is a little roasty, toasty in the summer heat, and despite air-conditioning, I might not be flying too much more DCS until the weather cools.
 
Hopefully DCS can add some of these AI assets and let us know in the upcoming six months.

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New ships are extremely rare in DCS and unfortunatly will probably never be added in significant numbers. Based on their gameplay value by offering new interactions with player aircraft, I would prioritise the Kashin DDG (SA-N-1 SAM) and Kara CG (SA-N-3 SAM).

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