Bee_Sting Posted August 6, 2009 Posted August 6, 2009 when i land to refuel and rearm from the helo pads or airports,when i take off again to get back to my targets. i will reach my target area and i will start to hover and when ka-50 begins to settle. the ap disegages. what went wrong? i'm above 150m??
Weta43 Posted August 7, 2009 Posted August 7, 2009 Is the auto hover turned on when the AP disengages ? Cheers.
Rhino4 Posted August 7, 2009 Posted August 7, 2009 He says he's above 150m so it shouldn't matter if he had the auto-hover on... @ Beesting: Try to duplicate your fault and post a track...
Bee_Sting Posted August 7, 2009 Author Posted August 7, 2009 (edited) i don't know how to record the track? when i'm going back to my target area to hover everything is normal. can u reset the AP? i make sure that all is working and settings are set. the AH is not on when i try to hover,i'm trying to get into hover mod and when the ka-50 starts to setting in AH the AP disegages Edited August 7, 2009 by Bee_Sting
159th_Viper Posted August 7, 2009 Posted August 7, 2009 Post a Track ;) Honestly, trying to troubleshoot without tangible footage is like trying to search for a needle in a haystack. As regards to the AP - Just ensure the Pitch, Bank and Lateral Dampeners are engaged at all times. And Yeah - remember to disengage Altitude-Hold when disengaging the Auto-Hover. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Bee_Sting Posted August 7, 2009 Author Posted August 7, 2009 all switches and knobs are on i fixed my problem well i came to fixing my own problem and made some findings! when i was hovering i choose to push the alt hold button instead of pushing trim and ah button. when u are leveling out ka-50 at a slow speed(70km) and u are flying straight if u push the alt hold button,it trims it for you and that u can push the ah button and u will enter ah mode without side slipping. so now i don't push trim and ah button and trying to adjust the ka-50 with trim to get a hover state. what i do now is get to about 70km then level the ka-50 so that i'm moving straight and push the alt hold button to stablize and then i would push the ah button. now i don't have the ap disengaging on me anymore :smilewink:
EinsteinEP Posted August 7, 2009 Posted August 7, 2009 (edited) Bee_Sting, You're probably about to get half a dozen posts with the same message: 70 km/hr does NOT equal "slow"! Ideally you should be in a trimmed hover before engaging Auto Hover, but I think it's great that you found a method that works for you. Just realize that when you engage Auto Hover, it takes a snapshot of the point on the ground directly underneath the chopper and tries to hover directly over that point (that's the square box that slides around in the HUD, or the lines that scoot around in the HSI). If you're moving at 70km/hr, that point is moving away pretty fast, well beyond the capability of the autopilot to capture. This reference point gets updated every time you release the Trimmer button, so frequent use of the Trimmer will help, but it would be a more robust practice to enter the hover first, trim so you can practically take your hands and feet off of the controls, then engage Auto Hover. With some practice, I think you'll find it takes just as long as the method you described, but with even better results! Can you recreate the condition where the autopilot disengages on you? Although you found a workaround to it, I'd love to see the track file and/or reproduce it myself. Thanks! Edited August 7, 2009 by EinsteinEP Shoot to Kill. Play to Have Fun.
Weta43 Posted August 7, 2009 Posted August 7, 2009 He says he's above 150m so it shouldn't matter if he had the auto-hover on... @ Beesting: Try to duplicate your fault and post a track... I wasn't thinking about altitude, but rather (as the post above) about whether he was using the AH to stop from a reasonable speed... You're not supposed to engage it above 20km/h (not 70km/h) Cheers.
Bee_Sting Posted August 7, 2009 Author Posted August 7, 2009 (edited) i will try to make for you to see the disegagement i will make one i hope!:smilewink: thanks for all the advice! the reason why i activate the ah at 70km is because u can glide into a target area and with the right collective u can get a good height when u setting in ah mode. i don't use the ah to stop the ka-50. Edited August 7, 2009 by Bee_Sting
Weta43 Posted August 8, 2009 Posted August 8, 2009 (edited) I think if you stop using the AH from 70 Km/h, you'll stop having the AP turn off :-) If you have to use this technique, engage the AH for a second or two, then disengage & re-engage straight away & repeat this till you're stopped. - Though practicing coming to a halt at a controlled level with the AH off would be a bettter plan... Same generally if you don't trim correctly before engaging the AH - if you're drifting (& for some reason can't trim), re-set the hover point occasionally Edited August 8, 2009 by Weta43 Cheers.
GGTharos Posted August 8, 2009 Posted August 8, 2009 Or more to the point ... get in a hover FIRST, then turn AH on. AH is meant to keep you there once you're hovering, not to get you into a hover. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
nemises Posted August 8, 2009 Posted August 8, 2009 ...also, use the trim button to reset the "Hover Center" to help the aircraft from fighting to reach a point that is now 100 mtrs behind you.... As the guys have said, Get to a hover FIRST and trim for it BEFORE turning on Hover Hold, then it is relatively safe to go heads down. Of course, you'll often have a bit of a drift on, so be very very aware if you are near any hills / tall buildings
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