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There is interactive tutorial already present in DCS for Fulcrum. If you did not, try it. There are some tinny things present that were not covered in video tutorial from Wags. After this interactive tutorial I did not have any issues.

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2 hours ago, Dača said:

There is interactive tutorial already present in DCS for Fulcrum. If you did not, try it. There are some tinny things present that were not covered in video tutorial from Wags. After this interactive tutorial I did not have any issues.

are you talking about the training mission for cold&dark? If so, the bank thing is stillt present as you will alter the trim.

15 hours ago, Jef Costello said:

Hi NoPro could you give us a line number please?

Hey @Jef Costello,

 

the folder with the default.lua file is located here Your Harddrive\ DCS World OpenBeta\Mods\aircraft\MiG-29-Fulcrum\Input\MiG-29-Fulcrum\keyboard

 

and you'll find the trim sensitivity in the following lines

aileron trim: Line 111&112

pitch trim: Line 109&110

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Yes. In main menu select TRAINING and then the first training mission that is listed. There will be only 2.

You can't keep MiG-29A straight in flight like you can do with F-16CM when joystick is released. Only autopilot. Trimming in flight is almost constant and you must never take your hand off the joystick. MiG-29 is not fly-by-wire. It is raw, wild beast. So whatever you do with trimming, plane will still bank a tinny little. Or pitch. You counter this with joystick inputs.

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23 hours ago, BIGNEWY said:

The lamp wont light up at a precise point, the sensor lights up when it thinks it is neutral, almost like in a dead zone. 

we have checked and its not a bug. 

thank you 

I feel that what people are saying is that the aileron trim is too coarse. I have found that even with manually setting the aileron trim to the neutral position, I get a roll in either direction in flight. That in itself is okay but I can't adjust the aileron trim in flight to prevent any roll-off to either side. When I use the trim reset, the aileron trim is in perfect neutral with no roll-off. I feel that the aileron trim requires a bit more granularity to be able to properly trim wings level manually.

Regards,  John

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40 minutes ago, CF104 said:

I feel that what people are saying is that the aileron trim is too coarse. I have found that even with manually setting the aileron trim to the neutral position, I get a roll in either direction in flight. That in itself is okay but I can't adjust the aileron trim in flight to prevent any roll-off to either side. When I use the trim reset, the aileron trim is in perfect neutral with no roll-off. I feel that the aileron trim requires a bit more granularity to be able to properly trim wings level manually.

Regards,  John

Yes, it's really coarse, at least when using digital input. If the input was finer then  you might, at least, get near a somewhat trimmed out level flight. But if that's the way the real trimmer works then I guess that's fine. I'm also with the "as long as it is a close to the real thing"-camp. 🙂

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I have trimmed with the control indicator open last night and on my end neutral trim is reached just as the neutral trim light illuminates when trimming left after the AFCS check. It's right on the edge of the lamp indicator.

I trimmed with the indicator as a reference and it looked like I reached roughly neutral trim just before the lamp comes on. I then tapped the trim hat left and the light came on but that already indicates a very slight trim to the left. So if you just go by the aileron neutral light make sure you trim back to the right until the light goes off then tap left again and trim should be roughly neutral. If not you will experience a left roll on take off.

 

https://forum.dcs.world/topic/379459-controller-deadzonecurves-dont-activate-until-mid-flight-uncommanded-left-roll/#findComment-5697886

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On 9/22/2025 at 3:02 PM, draconus said:

It can bank either way. They are not perfectly made nor perfectly balanced in weight.

I don't think your DCS Mig-29 has gone through any sort manufacturing process 😉 So, it doesn't apply.

Mine doesn't show any roll tendency after a Ctrl+T.

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1 hour ago, average_pilot said:

I don't think your DCS Mig-29 has gone through any sort manufacturing process 😉 So, it doesn't apply.

Be that as it may, the better our MiG-29's FM reflects the real bird, quirks and oddities included, the more I like it 🙂 
It's quite possible that this specific roll tendency is something that's actually not present in the real aircraft and will be addressed in a future FM update - but if it is, we'll learn to deal with it 🥳

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