IvanK Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago Confused with TWS to RWS switching. If I have the WCS in RAD I am in RWS with the rectangular Acq box. I select the TWS switch up to the FHS position I then see the square Acq box ... so I am now in TWS. How do I go back directly to RWS ? placing the TWS down to the RHS position still leaves me in TWS.
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago It’s track-while-fly (TWF), not track-while-scan (TWS). It’s basically just the equivalent of an L&S target, or a track file that the WCS generates based on which contact it seems most urgent (based on closure speed and angle-off, I bet). Spoiler Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 96GB G.Skill Ripjaws M5 Neo DDR5-6000 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 990Pro 4TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero VPC MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-curve extension | VPC CM3 throttle | VPC CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | VPC R1-Falcon pedals with damper | Pro Flight Trainer Puma OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings Win11 Pro 24H2 - VBS/HAGS/Game Mode ON
IvanK Posted 10 hours ago Author Posted 10 hours ago yes OK TWF v TWS (transliteration) but the question remains how to get back to RWS or deselect TWF ?
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago I don’t remember it being covered in Wags’ video, but I’d imagine simply flipping the switch back down again will allow you to resume manual target selection instead of letting the WCS take care of that. 12 minutes ago, IvanK said: placing the TWS down to the RHS position still leaves me in TWS. How did you determine that? By the target box still being around the initial radar contact, or by not being able to move the target box (TDC) around manually? Spoiler Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 96GB G.Skill Ripjaws M5 Neo DDR5-6000 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 990Pro 4TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero VPC MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-curve extension | VPC CM3 throttle | VPC CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | VPC R1-Falcon pedals with damper | Pro Flight Trainer Puma OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings Win11 Pro 24H2 - VBS/HAGS/Game Mode ON
IvanK Posted 10 hours ago Author Posted 10 hours ago (edited) After placing the switch down the Square Acq box is there indicating TWF still in force. Seems to me there should perhaps be a third centre position of the switch TWF OFF. TWF switch Up according to the video tuts is FHS optimized for head on targets and RHS for Tail on targets. Edited 10 hours ago by IvanK 1
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago Did you try the target unlock button? In any case, I’d not treat the system as TWS/RWS, but simply as a soft auto-target feature to ease pilot workload - so you don’t have to operate the TCS (which is on the stick) and fly the aircraft manually at the same time. Spoiler Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 96GB G.Skill Ripjaws M5 Neo DDR5-6000 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 990Pro 4TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero VPC MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-curve extension | VPC CM3 throttle | VPC CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | VPC R1-Falcon pedals with damper | Pro Flight Trainer Puma OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings Win11 Pro 24H2 - VBS/HAGS/Game Mode ON
AeriaGloria Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago Yeah, I always thought it was a three position switch. So no idea how to turn TWS completely off. 1 Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago Will it auto-highlight a new contact after the first one is taken out, even with the switch in the down position? It is something to test… For now I’m still building muscle memory on actually flying the plane and some basic emergency procedures such as 1-engine operations. I prefer to focus on aviate-navigate-communicate for the first week(s) or so after getting a new module. I’m in no rush to start blowing stuff up Spoiler Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 96GB G.Skill Ripjaws M5 Neo DDR5-6000 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 990Pro 4TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero VPC MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-curve extension | VPC CM3 throttle | VPC CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | VPC R1-Falcon pedals with damper | Pro Flight Trainer Puma OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings Win11 Pro 24H2 - VBS/HAGS/Game Mode ON
AeriaGloria Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said: Will it auto-highlight a new contact after the first one is taken out, even with the switch in the down position? It is something to test… For now I’m still building muscle memory on actually flying the plane and some basic emergency procedures such as 1-engine operations. I prefer to focus on aviate-navigate-communicate for the first week(s) or so after getting a new module. I’m in no rush to start blowing stuff up I mean, I will try this, but the thing is down is still TWS for ZPS/MPRF/Dogon/Pursuit mode Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 12 minutes ago, AeriaGloria said: I mean, I will try this, but the thing is down is still TWS for ZPS/MPRF/Dogon/Pursuit mode Yes I get that, but if there are either no other contacts, or all of the contacts are nose hot, what will the WCS do then? It is not meant to auto-highlight high closure-rate contacts, as you say. Spoiler Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 96GB G.Skill Ripjaws M5 Neo DDR5-6000 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 990Pro 4TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero VPC MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-curve extension | VPC CM3 throttle | VPC CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | VPC R1-Falcon pedals with damper | Pro Flight Trainer Puma OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings Win11 Pro 24H2 - VBS/HAGS/Game Mode ON
AeriaGloria Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago Well TWS works off speed divided by range. Whichever target has the highest is highlighted. It should still work in ZPS Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago Ok then, what if you turn away and/or point the radar to a section of the sky where there are no targets, and then flip the radar switch to dummy and back to illuminate? The radar and WCS were not designed to work the way US systems do. Was it ever used independently of GCI to control/sanitise a piece of sky, successfully? Spoiler Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 96GB G.Skill Ripjaws M5 Neo DDR5-6000 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 990Pro 4TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero VPC MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-curve extension | VPC CM3 throttle | VPC CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | VPC R1-Falcon pedals with damper | Pro Flight Trainer Puma OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings Win11 Pro 24H2 - VBS/HAGS/Game Mode ON
AeriaGloria Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 47 minutes ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said: Ok then, what if you turn away and/or point the radar to a section of the sky where there are no targets, and then flip the radar switch to dummy and back to illuminate? The radar and WCS were not designed to work the way US systems do. Was it ever used independently of GCI to control/sanitise a piece of sky, successfully? The reason TWS mode exists is specifically for when flying without GCI or datalink, since you don’t get target speed info, TWS does it for you Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com
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