ECTAE Posted September 20 Posted September 20 (edited) While attempting to perform a best-rate turn at 900 km/h, the AOA indicator became stuck after a few turns, resulting in loss of valid AOA readings resulting in the loss of angle-of-attack limit protection. Is this a modeled feature or a system malfunction? I was unable to find any reference regarding operational limitations in the manual. Kola Map. OAT=-2ºc so its not very cold. Edited September 20 by ECTAE 1
Bremspropeller Posted September 20 Posted September 20 Is that with pitot heat engaged? So ein Feuerball, JUNGE!
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Xander8912 Posted September 22 Posted September 22 Hello, I experience the same issue on a test mission I made. I suspect temperature playing a role in that, it was -2°C and a few minutes after take off, the AoA needle freeze anytime I played it. I change meteo to 15°C and the problem disappeared. Everytime played with pitot heat on of course.
ECTAE Posted September 24 Author Posted September 24 Yes AOA vane freeze is a real thing but I doubt the Mikoyan design bureau didn't take into account the operating temperature on the Mig29. With a stuck AOA sensor, you're not able to perform high AOA turns, best rate turn, and also AFCS protections stop working. 1
CF104 Posted September 24 Posted September 24 I've experienced the same in the Instant Action, cold and dark flight. Regards, John
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted September 24 Posted September 24 I have also experienced this, but only after I forgot to turn on pitot heat. I’ll see if I can see it again with it turned on. Spoiler Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 96GB G.Skill Ripjaws M5 Neo DDR5-6000 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 990Pro 4TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero VPC MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-extension | VPC CM3 throttle | VPC CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | VPC R1-Falcon pedals with damper | Pro Flight Trainer Puma OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings Win11 Pro 25H2 - VBS/HAGS/Game Mode ON
Osrac Posted October 23 Posted October 23 Yup experienced this on MP servers in cold weather conditions on Caucases, both in under hot and cold start settings. Makes for annoying landings considering the drifty wheel physics of the Fulcrum.
YoYo Posted October 23 Posted October 23 I can confirm this too. It's been like this since the very beginning, and sometimes AoA just doesn't work. I have no idea what's causing it yet. Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 5090 32Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro
Lixma 06 Posted October 24 Posted October 24 20 hours ago, YoYo said: and sometimes AoA just doesn't work. I saw this once - forgot to save the track; I just assumed a stray bullet was the cause.
ECTAE Posted October 30 Author Posted October 30 Nope, and still happening. They don't need any more track. Only using their own module. If you takeoff and do some turns you'll see by yourself. This plane is kind of a mess right now. Every update you got a surpise.
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted October 30 Posted October 30 Yes and it happens in the default hot start IA missions too. 1 Spoiler Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 96GB G.Skill Ripjaws M5 Neo DDR5-6000 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 990Pro 4TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero VPC MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-extension | VPC CM3 throttle | VPC CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | VPC R1-Falcon pedals with damper | Pro Flight Trainer Puma OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings Win11 Pro 25H2 - VBS/HAGS/Game Mode ON
SAM77 Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago Can report I noticed this as well. Happens with pitot heat on from startup. AOA freezes at altitude and unfreezes as you go low. Spoiler Intel i7 14700F | 64GB G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB DDR5-6000 | MSI RTX 4060 Gaming X 8G | WD Black SN770 2TB | Sound Blaster Audigy RX | MSI B760 Tomahawk WIFI DDR5 | Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS Flight Pack | TrackIR 5 | Windows 11 Home |
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted 15 hours ago ED Team Posted 15 hours ago I have asked the team again to give me more information on this issue. thanks 1 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted 15 hours ago ED Team Posted 15 hours ago 37 minutes ago, SAM77 said: Can report I noticed this as well. Happens with pitot heat on from startup. AOA freezes at altitude and unfreezes as you go low. There are some tweaks coming for the pitot soon, it could be part of the issue you are seeing specifically at altitude. 1 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted 14 hours ago ED Team Posted 14 hours ago On 9/20/2025 at 4:36 PM, ECTAE said: Trackfile LastMissionTrack.trk 2.26 MB · 2 downloads Ive reproduced with this track, can I ask have you seen it happen in other terrains? This one is Kola and temp is -2 had me thinking it was pitot related, but then I tried to reproduce in Caucasus at -2 and could not reproduce. If you do have more tracks in other terrains please attach them, I am looking into it. thanks Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
SAM77 Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago I have one from Caucasus MP. Temp is 14C. AOA seems to unfreeze at <1500m. Through_The_Inferno_CCS_v2.3.8-20251113-205416.trk 1 Spoiler Intel i7 14700F | 64GB G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB DDR5-6000 | MSI RTX 4060 Gaming X 8G | WD Black SN770 2TB | Sound Blaster Audigy RX | MSI B760 Tomahawk WIFI DDR5 | Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS Flight Pack | TrackIR 5 | Windows 11 Home |
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted 8 hours ago ED Team Posted 8 hours ago This issue is fixed internally and will be in the next update. It is related to the pitot and the tweak the team have made fixes it. thank you 3 1 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
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