Impossible to do the AFCS start and get damper with Force Feedback, any clue ?

[FZG_Immel]

Ive been trying to complete a proper cold start, and with my FFBeast base, I am totally unable to obtain a DAMPER OFF light to go off..

 

any clue ?

 

anywhere where this is addressed ?

 

thanks !

[MAXsenna]

Ive been trying to complete a proper cold start, and with my FFBeast base, I am totally unable to obtain a DAMPER OFF light to go off..
 
any clue ?
 
anywhere where this is addressed ?
 
thanks !

Have you set the correct FFB axis? It seems that's an issue for some.

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[FZG_Immel]

of course. everything works fine with a hot start or with a air start

 

thx

Edited 5 hours ago by FZG_Immel

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

It might also have to do with your specific settings in whichever software FFBeast uses. I had issues with trimming in the F-4 and F-14 with my Rhino until I finetuned the settings - but it took a while for me to fully understand how the software works. It might be something related to either too much spring force or too little, or too much friction counteracting the spring force.

 

All I know is that is works fine for me, but others have reported issues with it too, using a FFB stick. If I were you, I’d check the settings in the FFB software.

Edited 5 hours ago by Raven (Elysian Angel)
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[FZG_Immel]

I understand what you mean. But I have no issues with any other airplane.

My understanding is that MAYBE, some FFB setting from the telemetry, that I am using on top of the DCS FFB from directX is preventing the autotest from the AFCS to go to the end...  

 

I guess I should just start with no effects from telemetry and add them one by one.

 

But again, I have NO issues trimming the Mig-29.. its just that it cannot run the AFCS test to the end, such as the dampers never kick in.

Edited 4 hours ago by FZG_Immel

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

5 minutes ago, FZG_Immel said:

But again, I have NO issues trimming the Mig-29.. its just that it cannot run the AFCS test to the end, such as the dampers never kick in.

My suspicion is that the the AFCS test uses the trim system in the background. That’s why I brought it up: if something interferes with trim forces somehow, it may prevent the test from successfully completing. But perhaps I’m mistaken. Did you try trimming to neutral and then hitting the AFCS OFF switch on the stick, as the training mission suggests in case of test failure?

 

I had no issues with other modules either, but trimming in the F-4 felt weird until I fixed the settings I was referring to, and it also helped the F-14.

In fact, it even made some helicopters easier to fly.

[FZG_Immel]

5 minutes ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said:

My suspicion is that the the AFCS test uses the trim system in the background. That’s why I brought it up: if something interferes with trim forces somehow, it may prevent the test from successfully completing. But perhaps I’m mistaken. Did you try trimming to neutral and then hitting the AFCS OFF switch on the stick, as the training mission suggests in case of test failure?

 

I had no issues with other modules either, but trimming in the F-4 felt weird until I fixed the settings I was referring to, and it also helped the F-14.

In fact, it even made some helicopters easier to fly.

yes, I have tried. same result

you are right and maybe onto something though. Because If I use a FFB profile that I use with the F-4, the AFCS test moves the stick (physically, in game and IRL , but only back and left). If I use a Mig-29 profile I created , based on the F-4 profile but with only 60% of the force applied, then the stick doesnt move at all. So clearly the FFB software and certain settings are influencing that AFCS test and its failure. 

I think I will create a profile with NO effects at all, and try the AFCS test.  if that works, i can always switch to profile for flying afterward (I can easely switch profiles in game)

Edited 4 hours ago by FZG_Immel

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

3 minutes ago, FZG_Immel said:

I think I will create a profile with NO effects at all, and try the AFCS test.  if that works, i can always switch to profile for flying afterward (I can easely switch profiles in game)

It’s way past midnight where I live, and I’m about to go to bed, but if it helps I can check tomorrow in my profiles and let you know what exactly is different in my F-4 and MiG-29 profiles.

I have a “up to third gen jet” profile which I use for the F-4, Mirage F1 and as you might have guessed, all other jets up to third gen.

For MiG-29 I use my “fourth gen non-FBW” profile, which I also use for F-15E for example.