Automated ATC system

[RWC]

Hi, requesting an automated ATC system for approach, departure, ground and carrier operations, instead of constantly needing to use the F10 Menu ATC.

 

Kind regards,

RWC

Edited September 22 by RWC

[Silver_Dragon]

On Develo by ED, but not dates to release yet.

Edited September 29 by Silver_Dragon

[MAXsenna]

Hi, requesting an automated ATC system for approach, departure, ground and carrier operations, instead of constantly needing to use the F10 Menu ATC.
 
Kind regards,
RWC

You don't have VoiceAttack by chance? If yes, you can add the free community driven plugin which let's you skip that radio menu, and let you speak the commands.

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[RWC]

On 9/22/2025 at 8:13 PM, MAXsenna said:

You don't have VoiceAttack by chance? If yes, you can add the free community driven plugin which let's you skip that radio menu, and let you speak the commands.

Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
 

That would still be a 3rd party external add-on, as thinking of a more integrated automated ATC-system within DCS. But it's a plan for the future, as i read above.

[MAXsenna]

That would still be a 3rd party external add-on, as thinking of a more integrated automated ATC-system within DCS. But it's a plan for the future, as i read above.

Sure, how long are you gonna wait?
And what's "automated"?

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[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

'Automated' seems like a very bad idea. Automated to me, means you don't need to do anything yourself. Imagine every control tower on the map calling out to you:
"Hey, do you want to land here?"
"No, land HERE"
"But I was first! They need to land HERE!" 

At a minimum, you'd need to contact ATC yourself: check in, declare intentions (touch-and-go, full stop landing, re-arm & refuel, emergency landing, ...).
Other than that, yes ATC should guide you to line-up to the runway in IFR conditions, deconflict, tell you which taxiways to use and which parking spot, etc etc.

[RWC]

1 hour ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said:

'Automated' seems like a very bad idea. Automated to me, means you don't need to do anything yourself. Imagine every control tower on the map calling out to you:
"Hey, do you want to land here?"
"No, land HERE"
"But I was first! They need to land HERE!" 

At a minimum, you'd need to contact ATC yourself: check in, declare intentions (touch-and-go, full stop landing, re-arm & refuel, emergency landing, ...).
Other than that, yes ATC should guide you to line-up to the runway in IFR conditions, deconflict, tell you which taxiways to use and which parking spot, etc etc.

That's impossible when selecting predefined specific frequencies. And not with today's AI control options.

But why would only the cockpits and aircraft designs be as advanced as they are today, and not the airports? With today's AI powered possibilities, it would not be such a huge step. It will be like an airport assistant using correct ground, departure, and arrival procedures and frequencies.

See it like this as an idea, for example Incirlik AFB, the tower freq is 122.10. When selecting this freq on your comms panel, a drop-down menu appears with options : 1 startup, 2 taxi, 3 take off ect. Select an option of what you want to do, and the (AI) Tower responds with how it wants you to proceed, in junction with other air traffic (dynamic AI) moving around the airport, controlling traffic and procedures. It also handles handoffs like it does at a real airport, because in fact, there are a lot more important frequencies at an airport than just the Tower, right ? But yet simplified in the advanced simulation of DCS, so it becomes more user-friendly.

I don't really want to start a difficult topic with all the unnecessary arguing, but just share a broader vision and open mind of possibilities that are available to us in today. You see AI integrated in almost every website, and even here on the DCS page...

Isn't this how DCS started ? With just an idea of a more detailed flight combat sim than any other existing ? And remember, this was in 2008, 17 years ago (RU:17 OCT 2008: ENG 10 DEC 2008) !

Kind regards, 

RWC.

 

Edited September 24 by RWC

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

16 minutes ago, RWC said:

That's impossible when selecting predefined specific frequencies.

I was making a joke

 

16 minutes ago, RWC said:

But why would only the cockpits and aircraft designs be as advanced as they are today, and not the airports?

We definitely need an advanced ATC system: no argument there. There are plenty of threads about it, and ED has reported development is in an advanced stage already since they asked publicly for voice actors and SMEs.

19 minutes ago, RWC said:

difficult topic with all the unnecessary arguing

Why would it be difficult? ED has been working on it for a while now.

[RWC]

8 minutes ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said:

I was making a joke

 

We definitely need an advanced ATC system: no argument there. There are plenty of threads about it, and ED has reported development is in an advanced stage already since they asked publicly for voice actors and SMEs.

Why would it be difficult? ED has been working on it for a while now.

Thank you RAVEN, there is no offense taken, I just laughed a bit of enjoyment. As you see, I already got a reply from Silver Dragon too. It's good we ask about these things and how they are progressing. It's good info, and it's good to share our wishes ! Someone always jumps out of the mist to respond or react to solve the problem, but only if we let it be known to others, right..

Edited September 24 by RWC

[MAXsenna]

6 hours ago, RWC said:

Thank you RAVEN, there is no offense taken, I just laughed a bit of enjoyment. As you see, I already got a reply from Silver Dragon too. It's good we ask about these things and how they are progressing. It's good info, and it's good to share our wishes ! Someone always jumps out of the mist to respond or react to solve the problem, but only if we let it be known to others, right..

I guess "automated" means something completely different to you than to me.

SD wrote they are working on it, but I'm not sure he understood you. I'm pretty sure ED is not working on an "automated" system, I really hope they are not, and rather take the BMS approach. The "automated" SC system sucks. 

Like @Raven (Elysian Angel) I want an enhanced ATC, not automated at all. In a perfect world we would have something like BeyondATC, and that's why I use VAICOM for the time being, because we have no clue to what the new ATC will come and what it will be like. I really hope it will either include Speech Recognition out of the box, while I'm sure it won't, so my hope it still will be compatible with VAICOM/VoiceAttack even if it's a 3rd party app.

You are aware you can assign a hat/(or buttons), to browse the radio menu, that will only work with the menu when it's open? Like your trim hat.

7 hours ago, RWC said:

See it like this as an idea, for example Incirlik AFB, the tower freq is 122.10. When selecting this freq on your comms panel, a drop-down menu appears with options : 1 startup, 2 taxi, 3 take off ect. Select an option of what you want to do, and the (AI) Tower responds with how it wants you to proceed, in junction with other air traffic (dynamic AI) moving around the airport, controlling traffic and procedures. It also handles handoffs like it does at a real airport, because in fact, there are a lot more important frequencies at an airport than just the Tower, right ? But yet simplified in the advanced simulation of DCS, so it becomes more user-friendly.

Yup, just like we have in BMS. The game handles all that for you in game. No "AI" needed.  

Cheers! 

[Silver_Dragon]

On 9/24/2025 at 10:34 AM, RWC said:

Thank you RAVEN, there is no offense taken, I just laughed a bit of enjoyment. As you see, I already got a reply from Silver Dragon too. It's good we ask about these things and how they are progressing. It's good info, and it's good to share our wishes ! Someone always jumps out of the mist to respond or react to solve the problem, but only if we let it be known to others, right..

Wags talking on January 2025 ATC on your Q&A about the new ATC on develop (21:20) and a Player ATC (22:06).

An yes, will require a develop update.

Edited September 29 by Silver_Dragon