sabreman Posted Thursday at 03:59 PM Posted Thursday at 03:59 PM Good Afternoon, Like the title says, my game crashes at this step regardless of what aircraft, mission, server, etc I'm using. I'm able to get into the game and use the mission editor, but trying to actually start anything results in this outcome. Attached is my crash log. This is on a brand-new (clean formatted) and fully updated windows 11 install with a brand new DCS install. The only module I have currently enabled outside of the default free ones, is the hornet. I have ran memtest and verified that my RAM is fully functional. I'm on the Latest BIOS drivers and NVIDIA drivers. Page file is system manged. Both the Saved Games, and the main DCS folders are exceptions in windows defender. This computer with the same hardware, used to work flawlessly a few months back. Please let me know if you need more information. dcs.log-20251016-205211.zip
Rudel_chw Posted Thursday at 04:57 PM Posted Thursday at 04:57 PM Looks like an authorization issue, check that your computer date, time and time zone are correct, and that you are using the correct dcs account password. For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
sabreman Posted Thursday at 10:00 PM Author Posted Thursday at 10:00 PM I've done that, and have the same result. Attached is the new crash log. dcs.log-20251016-215945.zip
Rudel_chw Posted Thursday at 11:00 PM Posted Thursday at 11:00 PM 50 minutes ago, sabreman said: I've done that, and have the same result. Attached is the new crash log. not the same result, the authorization error is gone and there is a new error: EDCORE (15212): # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 00007ff837d8eff3 00:00000000 your windows has a very small swapfile, try your increase it to at least 32 GB, here is a guide if needed: https://www.windows-tweaks.info/en/guide/set-swap-file-in-windows-10-11/ For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
sleighzy Posted Friday at 01:14 AM Posted Friday at 01:14 AM (edited) Error is the same as the one in the first log you provided: 2025-10-16 21:59:45.510 INFO EDCORE (15212): DCS/2.9.20.15384 (x86_64; MT; Windows NT 10.0.26200) 2025-10-16 21:59:45.511 INFO EDCORE (15212): C:\Games\DCS World\bin\edterrain4.dll 2025-10-16 21:59:45.512 INFO EDCORE (15212): # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 00007ff837d8eff3 00:00000000 2025-10-16 21:59:45.513 INFO EDCORE (15212): SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: 'C:\Games\DCS World\bin;', symOptions: 532, UserName: 'YOOB' 2025-10-16 21:59:45.516 INFO EDCORE (15212): OS-Version: 10.0.26200 () 0x100-0x1 2025-10-16 21:59:45.517 INFO EDCORE (15212): 0x00000000002deff3 (edterrain4): assets::lLinked::save + 0xEE53 2025-10-16 21:59:45.518 INFO EDCORE (15212): 0x00000000002d564b (edterrain4): assets::lLinked::save + 0x54AB 2025-10-16 21:59:45.519 INFO EDCORE (15212): 0x0000000000276e86 (edterrain4): landscape5::Surface5File::verticalIntersection + 0x6DD6 2025-10-16 21:59:45.519 INFO EDCORE (15212): 0x0000000000274844 (edterrain4): landscape5::Surface5File::verticalIntersection + 0x4794 2025-10-16 21:59:45.519 INFO EDCORE (15212): 0x000000000027106a (edterrain4): landscape5::Surface5File::verticalIntersection + 0xFBA 2025-10-16 21:59:45.520 INFO EDCORE (15212): 0x00000000002710a1 (edterrain4): landscape5::Surface5File::verticalIntersection + 0xFF1 2025-10-16 21:59:45.521 WARNING LOG (15180): 6 duplicate message(s) skipped. 2025-10-16 21:59:45.521 INFO EDCORE (15212): 0x0000000000275b07 (edterrain4): landscape5::Surface5File::verticalIntersection + 0x5A57 2025-10-16 21:59:45.521 INFO EDCORE (15212): 0x00000000002729c3 (edterrain4): landscape5::Surface5File::verticalIntersection + 0x2913 2025-10-16 21:59:45.522 INFO EDCORE (15212): 0x0000000000277f9f (edterrain4): landscape5::Surface5File::querySceneObjectsTris + 0x87F 2025-10-16 21:59:45.522 INFO EDCORE (15212): 0x00000000002716c9 (edterrain4): landscape5::Surface5File::verticalIntersection + 0x1619 2025-10-16 21:59:45.522 INFO EDCORE (15212): 0x000000000027758d (edterrain4): landscape5::Surface5File::queryRuntimeSceneObjects + 0x10D 2025-10-16 21:59:45.523 INFO EDCORE (15212): 0x00000000000e4f18 (edterrainGraphics41): createInstancerRenderable + 0x353A8 2025-10-16 21:59:45.523 INFO EDCORE (15212): 0x00000000000e4291 (edterrainGraphics41): createInstancerRenderable + 0x34721 2025-10-16 21:59:45.523 INFO EDCORE (15212): 0x0000000000034959 (edCore): ed::SyncTaskQueue::push_task + 0x489 2025-10-16 21:59:45.524 INFO EDCORE (15212): 0x00000000000493d6 (edCore): ed::SyncTaskQueue::push_task + 0x14F06 2025-10-16 21:59:45.524 INFO EDCORE (15212): 0x00000000000331e1 (edCore): ed::thread::_get_current_thread_id + 0x71 2025-10-16 21:59:45.525 INFO EDCORE (15212): 0x00000000000037b0 (ucrtbase): wcsrchr + 0x150 2025-10-16 21:59:45.527 INFO EDCORE (15212): 0x000000000002e8d7 (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x17 2025-10-16 21:59:45.769 INFO EDCORE (15212): Minidump created. Your page file is fine, you have 64Gb RAM. Based on the DCS log analyzer, and yes I realise this is a new install but things can get corrupted, it has the following advice: Run a slow repair, including the option to remove files Delete Saved Games\DCS\fxo and metashaders2 and try again. Next, delete %LOCALAPPDATA%\TEMP\DCS and try again. Next, try renaming Saved Games\DCS to DCS.old and try again. Make sure to rename and not delete so you can get your bindings back from the Config\Input folder The DxDiag report also shows some issues: Windows Error Reporting (WER) Application Errors DCS.exe: c0000005 (edterrain4.dll) Memory Timing Issues Remove any overclocking (XMP) from your RAM. Try the above and then provide another log file. EDIT: I see you're on Windows 25H2. Was your previous install on this as well? Haven't seen any reports of issues with this as yet (there's a forum thread here with people stating theirs is fine so far), but something to be mindful if folk see similar issues / stack traces. Edited Friday at 01:21 AM by sleighzy 1 AMD 7800x3D, 4080Super, 64Gb DDR5 RAM, 4Tb NVMe M.2, Quest 2
sabreman Posted Friday at 03:07 AM Author Posted Friday at 03:07 AM (edited) I have completed all of the above steps to no avail. XMP was not enabled. And yes, my previous install was also on this update. Attached is the most recent crash log. dcs.log-20251017-030541.zip Edited Friday at 03:07 AM by sabreman
sabreman Posted Saturday at 05:29 PM Author Posted Saturday at 05:29 PM (edited) Any ideas? I've been unable to play DCS for a few weeks now because of this issue. Edit: Out of desperation I've un-installed the hornet and reset all my settings to the lowest possible, and the game loaded! I got like 4 frames of gameplay before it crashed again. Note, this was the first frogfoot instant action mission, which I've tried before. However, this is definitely progress and the new crash log is attached. Seems to be the same terrain engine error as before. I'll keep editing this post as i keep troubleshooting. dcs.log-20251018-174927.zip Edited Saturday at 05:53 PM by sabreman
rob10 Posted Saturday at 06:14 PM Posted Saturday at 06:14 PM Have you tried RENAMING your DCS Saved Games folder (re-install won't have touched it). You've got some weird errors showing up in it (even in the latest log) that could be causing issues.
sabreman Posted Saturday at 06:55 PM Author Posted Saturday at 06:55 PM I've reinstalled my whole OS friend, which included a full drive wipe, and yes I have ALSO tried renaming the folder. As a follow up to my last post, it seems that the crash is now somewhat random. The same mission now crashes on lodaing world assets or whatever. Seems like a race-condition of some kind.
corn322 Posted Saturday at 09:17 PM Posted Saturday at 09:17 PM On 10/16/2025 at 10:59 AM, sabreman said: I'm on the Latest BIOS drivers This computer with the same hardware, used to work flawlessly a few months back. Please let me know if you need more information Did you update BIOS before these issues started?
sabreman Posted Saturday at 09:24 PM Author Posted Saturday at 09:24 PM No. These issues started on my previous install with outdated BIOS drivers. I hadn't fired up DCS for like, 2-3 months and when I tried this whole shtick kicked off. I thought a complete wipe would solve it, but here we are. Quite the problem.
sabreman Posted Saturday at 10:42 PM Author Posted Saturday at 10:42 PM Just as a troubleshooting idea, and because I have literally no idea what else to try, I made a brand new DCS account and tried the game with it (and everything but the base free modules removed). Same outcome, no dice.
sleighzy Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago (edited) Latest log contains the following during startup. You had a similar one around vc_options.lua in the first log. I'm looking through the others. 2025-10-18 17:48:00.843 ERROR EDCORE (Main): [C:\Users\YOOB\Saved Games\DCS\Config/Input/disabled.lua] CreateFile(REWRITE): The system cannot find the path specified. 2025-10-18 17:48:00.843 ERROR EDCORE (Main): Can't open file 'C:\Users\YOOB\Saved Games\DCS\Config/Input/disabled.lua' from real path fs. 2025-10-18 17:48:00.843 ERROR LuaGUI (Main): Cannot save disabled devices into file[C:\Users\YOOB\Saved Games\DCS\Config/Input/disabled.lua]! Error can't open "C:\Users\YOOB\Saved Games\DCS\Config/Input/disabled.lua" for 'w' 2025-10-18 17:48:32.516 ERROR EDCORE (Main): [C:\Users\YOOB\Saved Games\DCS\Config/Input/disabled.lua] CreateFile(REWRITE): The system cannot find the path specified. 2025-10-18 17:48:32.516 ERROR EDCORE (Main): Can't open file 'C:\Users\YOOB\Saved Games\DCS\Config/Input/disabled.lua' from real path fs. 2025-10-18 17:48:32.516 ERROR LuaGUI (Main): Cannot save disabled devices into file[C:\Users\YOOB\Saved Games\DCS\Config/Input/disabled.lua]! Error can't open "C:\Users\YOOB\Saved Games\DCS\Config/Input/disabled.lua" for 'w' 2025-10-18 17:49:02.539 ERROR EDCORE (Main): [C:\Users\YOOB\Saved Games\DCS\Config/Input/disabled.lua] CreateFile(REWRITE): The system cannot find the path specified. 2025-10-18 17:49:02.539 ERROR EDCORE (Main): Can't open file 'C:\Users\YOOB\Saved Games\DCS\Config/Input/disabled.lua' from real path fs. 2025-10-18 17:49:02.539 ERROR LuaGUI (Main): Cannot save disabled devices into file[C:\Users\YOOB\Saved Games\DCS\Config/Input/disabled.lua]! Error can't open "C:\Users\YOOB\Saved Games\DCS\Config/Input/disabled.lua" for 'w' Can you check if that file actually exists. It does for me so don't know if it's a permissions problem. You don't run DCS, and have never run DCS, as an administrator right? Never even ticked the box "Run as administrator" under the Compatibility tab of your properties on the shortcut or exe file in the bin folder? Edited 23 hours ago by sleighzy 1 AMD 7800x3D, 4080Super, 64Gb DDR5 RAM, 4Tb NVMe M.2, Quest 2
sabreman Posted 8 hours ago Author Posted 8 hours ago I ran it once during this troubleshooting process as admin. I got into the game both before and after that, and have wiped the saved games folder many times. No, I did not have that file, though creating it did not have any effect.
BJ55 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago (edited) You own a 4090 but the DxDiag Notes say "There is a problem with AMD Radeon(TM) Graphics device. For more information, search for 'graphics device driver error code 43'", quite strange... edterrain4.dll crashing with memory access violation seems a driver related issue, try with disabling the iGPU (integrated graphics). Edited 8 hours ago by BJ55 I7-12700F, 64GB DDR4 3200MHz, Asus Z670M, RX 9070 XT 2560x1440 60Hz, TIR 5, TM WH VPC base, TM rudder, Win10 Pro
sabreman Posted 8 hours ago Author Posted 8 hours ago Disabled it, but no dice still. Here's the newest crash log. dcs.log-20251019-165852.zip
BJ55 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Have you disabled HAGS, Game Mode and Core Isolation? Maybe try with and older NV driver? (btw, latest W11 release is plenty of bugs, like every NV driver since 50 series release) I7-12700F, 64GB DDR4 3200MHz, Asus Z670M, RX 9070 XT 2560x1440 60Hz, TIR 5, TM WH VPC base, TM rudder, Win10 Pro
MAXsenna Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 2 hours ago, sabreman said: Disabled it, but no dice still. Here's the newest crash log. Pretty sure you have incorrect file access settings. You have excluded DCS in your anti-virus solution, right? Made a repair after you did this? is your Windows account member of local machine admins? Which Windows account did you use to install DCS? Log analyzer suggests this, which I believe you already did. Tricky one this one. Errors Your DCS has crashed The crash occurred inside edterrain4.dll. Try a !repair., Delete Saved Games\DCS\fxo and metashaders2 and try again., Next, delete %LOCALAPPDATA%\TEMP\DCS and try again., Next, try renaming Saved Games\DCS to DCS.old and try again
rob10 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago It really looks like you have either AV interfering or possibly a drive failing. There are a number of files reported either not opening (or in last log, corrupted). Some of what you're seeing is "normal" background issues in DCS logs, but there are a number of ones that aren't normally there. 1
MAXsenna Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago @sabreman Could you take a screenshot of your Anti-Virus exclusions? Silly as it sounds, someone yesterday told a user in a similar thread they should exclude DCS in the Firewall and not the AV. I'm not saying you have done it wrong though. Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
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