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During a mission tonight I encountered some kind of automatic G-limiter.

It activates/deactivates at appx. 950kp/h and drastically limits pitch and yaw inputs.

 

This has never happened before and I've no idea what caused it to appear. I don't believe I hit any autopilot controls. Also, it wasn't 'awake' for the first few minutes of the mission, and it only lasted about five minutes before vanishing again.

Here's a video from the point when I realised something weird was going on.

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That does look odd. What about your AOA gauge, it is frozen, is this the English cockpit bug this patch or is pitot heat or some other switch off perhaps? 
 

Either way, it’s stuck at 15 degrees, and with LEF flap down as we see in your turns the AOA limit should be 26 degrees. When it hits the AOA limit the stick and elevators are automatically tilted down 2 or 15 degrees depending on speed. 
 

It becoming “awake” part way into the mission also makes me suspect pitot tube freezing. Pitot tube freezing could also affect ARU and reduce elevator authority at speeds where it shouldn’t reduce it so much. 

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I didn't even notice the AoA guage had frozen. The mission was air-start so pitot heating was already on (at least the switch was up).

Playing around some more.

I couldn't coax the pitch limiter to appear again, but the yaw limiter seems to be a feature rather than a bug.

E: bit more testing - the limiter kicks in at 1040kp/h @ sea level - well, the yaw limiter does. I've been unable to coax the pitch limiter out of hiding.

 

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Stick limiter in DCS is a feature to limit your movement of stick to a certain point. In real life at this point the pilot feel rapid force increase, and can overcome this limit to full stick deflection with additional force. Position of this "limiter" depends on more parameters than simple AoA. I can't remember if it is AoA+Mach number/airspeed or more.

In DCS you can switch it off while pressing Stick Limiter button in settings-controls.

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4 hours ago, Mateo said:

Stick limiter in DCS is a feature to limit your movement of stick to a certain point. In real life at this point the pilot feel rapid force increase, and can overcome this limit to full stick deflection with additional force. Position of this "limiter" depends on more parameters than simple AoA. I can't remember if it is AoA+Mach number/airspeed or more.

In DCS you can switch it off while pressing Stick Limiter button in settings-controls.

It’s Mach. 0-0.45, it pushes stabilizer down -2 degrees. 0.45-0.72 (LEF locked up) it’s -15 degrees. Then -2 degrees again above 15 degrees AOA, assuming LEF are working 

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On 11/5/2025 at 3:22 PM, Mateo said:

and can overcome this limit to full stick deflection with additional force

Yes and with a FFB stick, you can clearly feel that in-game 🥰

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Really ?

I will need to buy one. My Wingwing set is overrated then.

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Really ?
I will need to buy one. My Wingwing set is overrated then.
Well, that's the beauty of FFB. Has always been like this. Even with 20+ years old Microsoft FFB Sidewinders.

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