unable to reproduce Weapons not loading

[Pribs86]

Hi! I've done this several times with the same result. I load into the same dynamic spawn spot on Bagram. I then cold start the jet and load all stores it won't load any weapons and everything just stays in the red on the DSMS page. I also can't change skins in the rearm and refuel menu. It either shows nothing at all -OR- its locked to an "Item1". I don't think this skin issue is significant to the A-10C II as I have seen this many times in the F-5E as well with the last update when everything became searchable.

 

Thanks! Have a great day!

server-20251118-090920.trk

[Bigity]

I can't look at the track at the moment, you are loading the DTS after changing/loading weapons yes?

[Pribs86]

2 hours ago, Bigity said:

I can't look at the track at the moment, you are loading the DTS after changing/loading weapons yes?

Yes. I hit ok on rearm and refuel menu, the ground grew says "copy" then says rearm and refueling "complete", then hit load all in on the load screen and nothing happens/changes. Just red boxes no matter what weapons I try to load.

[Bigity]

Can't load the track file.  Says WWII Armor and Technics is needed.

What server is this from?  I suspect an issue on that side or with some mod.

 

 

[EricJ]

Yeah it should be with no mods and on Caucasus, not on a server of any kind.

[Yurgon]

5 hours ago, Pribs86 said:

I then cold start the jet and load all stores it won't load any weapons and everything just stays in the red on the DSMS page.

I see you looking at the sky for 15 minutes. 

Please create a short track in the Caucasus terrain, no mods, 5 minutes max, preferably from a hot start, showcasing the issue and nothing else.

If you suspect it's a server or multiplayer issue, can you get the mission creator or server operator to double-check this on your behalf and possibly chime in here? In this case, it would be good to know if it happens on all servers or only on specific ones, and which ones those are.

[Pribs86]

3 hours ago, Bigity said:

Can't load the track file.  Says WWII Armor and Technics is needed.

What server is this from?  I suspect an issue on that side or with some mod.

 

 

These are "factory" mods from DCS.

[Pribs86]

14 minutes ago, Yurgon said:

I see you looking at the sky for 15 minutes. 

Please create a short track in the Caucasus terrain, no mods, 5 minutes max, preferably from a hot start, showcasing the issue and nothing else.

If you suspect it's a server or multiplayer issue, can you get the mission creator or server operator to double-check this on your behalf and possibly chime in here? In this case, it would be good to know if it happens on all servers or only on specific ones, and which ones those are.

What if the issue is with cold start and NOT hot start? What if it is only an issue on the Afghanistan map and not Caucasus map? What if it is tied to this very specific spawn point on this specific map? Shouldn't you recreate the issue exactly as it happened so you aren't changing ALL of the variables - and effectively the entire outcome? If I change too many variables then the issue might not present itself at all. You do have the capability to fast forward the track if it's too long. If you don't have the time to look at it then don't. If you feel that I am wasting your time or isn't if this isn't your area of expertise then have someone else to look at this please. I will redo the track to convey exactly what happened... again. The "mods" are the WWII asset pack sold directly from ED directly. I don't us any unofficial mods.

[Yurgon]

15 minutes ago, Pribs86 said:

What if the issue is with cold start and NOT hot start? [...]

You tell me. All I can say is, I routinely change my loadout from cold starts in SP and MP and don't get this particular problem.

Your track has several prerequisites (Afghanistan map, apparently the WW II asset pack) and shows stuff that doesn't seem related (like the clouds over Afghanistan) that all together make it pretty hard to judge from the track alone what might cause this issue.

I'm glad to help if I can, but if you want this issue resolved, it would be good if you helped us help you instead of asking us to ignore you, which I will certainly do if that's how this thread continues.

Edited Tuesday at 10:18 PM by Yurgon
Typo

[Pribs86]

This is the track without "mods". It happens on a cold and dark AND hot start dynamic spawn from this spot. Hot start also does not work. Other maps work normally. I'm only interested in solving the technical issue. I loaded into a 4YA Afghanistan server and it loads normally, like it should... which I have also attached.

 

From the Mission Editor if you click on "Flight" then "Launch Multiplayer Server" - That's the server.

server-20251118-160945.trk 4YA_AFG_PVE_V2.38b[01_FEB_FEW]-20251118-162512.trk

Edited Tuesday at 10:55 PM by Pribs86
Updated information - underlined

[Yurgon]

21 minutes ago, Pribs86 said:

This is the track without "mods".

Thanks!

I watched both of the attached tracks and see the DSMS loaded fine in both of them after you hit the "LOAD ALL" or "LOAD DSMS" OSBs respectively.

I also joined the only 4YA Afghanistan server I could find ([4YA] TRAINING 24/7 AFGHANISTAN PVE UK with a mission called 4YA_AFG_PVE_V2.38B[01_FEB_FEW] ), but Bagram belongs to the red coalition there, and spawning a dynamic cold start A-10C II at FOB Dwyer allowed me to change my loadout and reload the DSMS with no issues.

I guess there's still a slight possibility that only specific slots might be affected, but it seems potentially hard to track this down. I'll see if any of the 4YA guys among the tester team can maybe shed some light.

[Pribs86]

1 minute ago, Yurgon said:

Thanks!

I watched both of the attached tracks and see the DSMS loaded fine in both of them after you hit the "LOAD ALL" or "LOAD DSMS" OSBs respectively.

I also joined the only 4YA Afghanistan server I could find ([4YA] TRAINING 24/7 AFGHANISTAN PVE UK with a mission called 4YA_AFG_PVE_V2.38B[01_FEB_FEW] ), but Bagram belongs to the red coalition there, and spawning a dynamic cold start A-10C II at FOB Dwyer allowed me to change my loadout and reload the DSMS with no issues.

I guess there's still a slight possibility that only specific slots might be affected, but it seems potentially hard to track this down. I'll see if any of the 4YA guys among the tester team can maybe shed some light.

Thank you. I greatly appreciate you taking the time to help! I was stumped because I've NEVER seen this happen before in the A-10C II or any other aircraft. My only goal was to report what I had observed incase it helps to identify a deeper issue. I just wanted to provide the most accurate reproduction as possible. Thank you again for digging into it. I appreciate you.

[Yurgon]

On 11/18/2025 at 4:41 PM, Pribs86 said:

I load into the same dynamic spawn spot on Bagram. I then cold start the jet and load all stores it won't load any weapons and everything just stays in the red on the DSMS page.

One of the 4YA admins was so kind to give Bagram to the blue coalition and tested the issue with me; thanks a lot good sir!

We tried the exact spot from your screenshot, A-10C and A-10C II, arming the aircraft from the dynamic spawn screen as well as from the in-game rearming and refueling screen, and neither of us was able to reproduce the issue; in all our tests, after "LOAD ALL" from the MFCD, our DSMS showed all weapons in green as expected and the "DSMS INVT CMBT" indication also went away.

I also can't think of anything client-side that might cause this kind of issue, and I'm afraid at this point it looks like a one-off, mysterious and hard to reproduce thing. 

If you can reliably reproduce the issue, we might still be able to track it down, but so far it's quite elusive.

Edited Wednesday at 06:56 PM by Yurgon

[Pribs86]

12 hours ago, Yurgon said:

One of the 4YA admins was so kind to give Bagram to the blue coalition and tested the issue with me; thanks a lot good sir!

We tried the exact spot from your screenshot, A-10C and A-10C II, arming the aircraft from the dynamic spawn screen as well as from the in-game rearming and refueling screen, and neither of us was able to reproduce the issue; in all our tests, after "LOAD ALL" from the MFCD, our DSMS showed all weapons in green as expected and the "DSMS INVT CMBT" indication also went away.

I also can't think of anything client-side that might cause this kind of issue, and I'm afraid at this point it looks like a one-off, mysterious and hard to reproduce thing. 

If you can reliably reproduce the issue, we might still be able to track it down, but so far it's quite elusive.

Bummer, well thanks for taking the time to look into it anyway. I'll try to find another way to reproduce it. Thanks again.