Trans Crimean Race 2010

[Boulund]

Let's play around with the purely hypothetical unreal scenario with infinite acceleration and decelration and a guesstimate of say, 8 sec take-off and 15 sec final landing until stopped.

In the game editor the distance is almost 30km and the top speed of a Su-27 with barely no fuel at all is somewhere around 1460 km/h @ 50 meters.

That would give something like:

(30 / 1460) * 60 * 60 ~= 74 sec for each leg.

Flying there and back would thus be around 148 sec. Let's add 8 sec take-off, 15 sec final landing, and, say ~20sec for the slowdown and touch-n-go ?

Now where at approx 148+8+15+20 = 190. Then let's add another 10 just to get an even number and we're at 200 seconds, this is equal to 3.33min.

But now we assumed infinite acceleration and deceleration which maybe adds another ~30% to the time for flying there and back (completely taken out of the blue), giving us approx 148*1.30 = 192.4 seconds for the flying. Then adding back in the take-off, touch-n-go and landing we get ~235.4 sec ~= 3.92 minutes (3min55sec).

This sounds reasonable eh?

Anyway, I'm currently sniffing around the 4.00 area...

Gl all!

Edited October 28, 2009 by Boulund

[czarnyolek]

Let's play around with the purely hypothetical unreal scenario with infinite acceleration and decelration and a guesstimate of say, 8 sec take-off and 15 sec final landing until stopped.

In the game editor the distance is almost 30km and the top speed of a Su-27 with barely no fuel at all is somewhere around 1460 km/h @ 50 meters.

That would give something like:

(30 / 1460) * 60 * 60 ~= 74 sec for each leg.

Flying there and back would thus be around 148 sec. Let's add 8 sec take-off, 15 sec final landing, and, say ~20sec for the slowdown and touch-n-go ?

Now where at approx 148+8+15+20 = 190. Then let's add another 10 just to get an even number and we're at 200 seconds, this is equal to 3.33min.

But now we assumed infinite acceleration and deceleration which maybe adds another ~30% to the time for flying there and back (completely taken out of the blue), giving us approx 148*1.30 = 192.4 seconds for the flying. Then adding back in the take-off, touch-n-go and landing we get ~235.4 sec ~= 3.92 minutes.

This sounds reasonable eh?

Anyway, I'm currently sniffing around the 4.00 area...

Gl all!

Yeah, i was was gonna say that too :)

 

Now try to do it man!

[hotray]

Let's play around with...

 

...with math?

my calculation says 3.17 for the quali (40 minutes for the full race BTW)

 

add some human characteristics and you come to 3.25 - 3.30

 

@Joker

No, there's nothing wrong - you just fly almost perfectly! :smilewink:

[sniffer]

I'm wondering if there is some difference in pure Su-27 and that one from 3GO. Probably more of us flying on that second - yes?

[czarnyolek]

I'm wondering if there is some difference in pure Su-27 and that one from 3GO. Probably more of us flying on that second - yes?

No difference. Just 3d model is changed, but all FM characteristics are untouched.

[golfsierra2]

golfSierra2:

 

When it comes to the main competition (after qualifying), will it be a totally different type of race?

 

Eg. Longer, multiple legs etc?

 

From the TCR main page:

 

"Similar to the qualification, the task is to take off immediately from Khersones, then approach in the given sequence all Crimean airbases as indicated by the waypoints / race track, do a touch & go at each airbase and land at Kerch. The time from the moment that your aircraft moves for take off until it comes to a full stop is taken. There is no need for a full stop at the airbases along the race track, just a touch & go with the main gear down."

[thaFunkster]

Jees, I have some bad stuff ups lol, enough for another video, this one will be funnier!

[golfsierra2]

i mean i open it [ATTACH]32794[/ATTACH] and see this [ATTACH]32793[/ATTACH]

 

The mission is still passworded, runs well and the main setup looks like this on my machine:

[Atskiy_KOT]

ok. i will try downloading one more time.

THx for ur help

[A-H_m108s1969]

S! 3.30 huh

if u have realy 3.30 time it is better.

i have only 3.54 with mig

S!

[Joe Kurr]

Did a clean LO:FC install to eliminate any mods, practiced a little more, and went even faster! :D

 

Took another eight seconds off my previous fastest time, but there still is room for improvement.

Edited October 28, 2009 by Joe Kurr

[thaFunkster]

Ok people, got some new content here. You might get a laugh from this:

 

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Do others have similar little events they could show? Should be some good chuckle material out there....

[Axion]

Very entertaining Funkster!:lol:

[thaFunkster]

Lol, thanks mate.

 

Id like to see similar from some other people here....

 

Or, am I the only one doing this kind of thing? :huh: lol.

[Boulund]

Nice!

 

You're not alone, at times it feels I'm in a crash-simulator more than a flight one =D

[sanakan]

hey guys, i wished to have another confirmation...

in the rules it's said : " The time from the moment, that your aircraft starts moving for take off "

 

when we brake during the first 80rpm before the take off...

the planes "moves" even if it's don't roll... ( the nose go down ) it's move before the take off....

So when the time start ? when we move, or when we roll ?

 

thx by advance

[golfsierra2]

hey guys, i wished to have another confirmation...

in the rules it's said : " The time from the moment, that your aircraft starts moving for take off "

 

when we brake during the first 80rpm before the take off...

the planes "moves" even if it's don't roll... ( the nose go down ) it's move before the take off....

So when the time start ? when we move, or when we roll ?

 

thx by advance

 

'Movement' in this case is the forward movement of the aicraft, when it starts rolling.

 

Does that make it clear for you ?

[golfsierra2]

Hey ThaFunkster,

 

really nice video and a very interesting technique as how to slow down before touchdown.

 

I like it !

[thaFunkster]

Thank you...Ah, I see what you mean...Yes I am sort of giving away my trade secrets a bit arent I?

[mikoyan]

I though that we had to cross the entire peninsula landing on different airports and having to refuel and calculate the best profiles or routes :) I was planning on doing some research on which fling pats and altitudes to use, calculating fuel loads and weights, climb rates and some serious math bur jeje. it looks like I wont need all that jeje

[Joe Kurr]

I though that we had to cross the entire peninsula landing on different airports and having to refuel and calculate the best profiles or routes :) I was planning on doing some research on which fling pats and altitudes to use, calculating fuel loads and weights, climb rates and some serious math bur jeje. it looks like I wont need all that jeje

 

That's exactly what we did during the 2007 Lowland Tiger Meet.

Take off from Sukhumi, perform a touch and go on all airfields, and land at Saki.

Route and fuel load was free, aircraft type was the same for all participants: MiG-29A.

All 20 participants were in the same mission, flying over a local network.

 

The start of the mission went from impressive to complete chaos in mere seconds :)

The impressive bit was the line-up of 20 human-piloted MiG-29s, all on the same platform.

The chaos started when the engines were spooled up and everyone tried to be the first to take off, using the runway in both directions at one time.

Unfortunately I didn't record a track of it, should have made a nice movie...

[sanakan]

hey Kurr

can i ask you on wich aircrraft you did 3.34 ?

cause i'm trying hard and that's seems to me impossible ^^

[Joe Kurr]

I'm flying the Su-27, and it's perfectly possible.

My average speed on that flight was roughly 1009km/h.

I'm not saying how I did it yet, but will post a video of one of my attempts next week.

[sanakan]

haha

no no i never ask you how you did it

everybody knows that's it's a race ;) thanks for answering !

[golfsierra2]

I though that we had to cross the entire peninsula landing on different airports and having to refuel and calculate the best profiles or routes :) I was planning on doing some research on which fling pats and altitudes to use, calculating fuel loads and weights, climb rates and some serious math bur jeje. it looks like I wont need all that jeje

 

Just read all of the information provided on the TCR main page.