Pilotasso Posted November 26, 2009 Posted November 26, 2009 Hey guys. Searching all the books I have about this IMHO the most dangerous russian aircraft in service, I have realy got no reliable up to date information about it. So I would like to hear from people in the know about its newest developments, capabilities and operational service. ED's staff input would be very welcome since they had put valuable insights of the russian AF before in these forums wich isnt widely publicitized on magazines. Go ahead. Be back later to read. Cheers. .
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 Work on MiG-31M started some 20 years ago. Bur Russian air force did not have money to buy it at the time. I don't know what the situation is right now. You don't hear much about MiG-31. It is in its own class. Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
zakobi Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 There where a mig-31m with big pods on the wing tips, can see if i can find the picture...
zakobi Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 here it is: Note also the r-77 under the wings
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 Those are ECM pods right? Single piece windshield, refueling probe, R-77 ... It does look like MiG-31M. I wonder if improved Zaslon-M is on pictured airplane? Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
Vekkinho Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 Here's a good MiG-31 video by Smotr: http://www.aviapedia.com/videos/fighters/Mig-31/MiG-31_Smotr.wmv [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Boberro Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 Some time I read Russia has modernised their fleet of 31s to BM version. I read they've changed many things there. Reminder: Fighter pilots make movies. Bomber pilots make... HISTORY! :D | Also to be remembered: FRENCH TANKS HAVE ONE GEAR FORWARD AND FIVE BACKWARD :D ಠ_ಠ ツ
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 Some time I read Russia has modernised their fleet of 31s to BM version. I read they've changed many things there.BM upgrade never took place according to MiG-31 book by Yefim Gordon (page 94). Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
Pilotasso Posted November 27, 2009 Author Posted November 27, 2009 dude, diversify your sources, not him again! :D .
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 dude, diversify your sources, not him again! :DI am not "dude" for you young man! What book about MiG-31 do you recommend? Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
Pilotasso Posted November 27, 2009 Author Posted November 27, 2009 If Im asking about Mig-31 how can I do that? 1 .
Vekkinho Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 It's correct, there's only a handful of BM (testbeds) but most of airworthy Foxhounds are brought up to M standard with R-77 support, glass cockpit and GPS+GLONASS receivers. There's many versions of MiG-31 today: S,BS but most of it are M versions. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
EvilBivol-1 Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 It's the other way around. The MiG-31M is dead and there is some momentum to upgrade the existing fleet to the MiG-31BM standard. However, it's not clear exactly what this standard is and it may not be the same thing it was some years a go. AFAIK, it's also not clear how many machines have been and will be upgraded. In any case, it's a very unclear time right now as the Russian military, including the AF is undergoing major reforms with a lot of restructuring and downsizing. Perhaps around the middle of next year we'll have a better idea of what's left and where. - EB [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Nothing is easy. Everything takes much longer. The Parable of Jane's A-10 Forum Rules
Pilotasso Posted November 28, 2009 Author Posted November 28, 2009 Thx Bivol, so thats why info about this plane is so scarce. Personaly would love to have in FC 2.0 :D, it doesnt get much higher and faster than that. .
Majesco Posted November 28, 2009 Posted November 28, 2009 (edited) There where a mig-31m with big pods on the wing tips, can see if i can find the picture... They're wingtip-mounted ECM pods with small delta fins projecting up and down at the rear to improve directional stability (RFA - Mikoyan MiG-31 by Yefim Gordon, page 86) :) Edited November 28, 2009 by Majesco 1
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted November 28, 2009 Posted November 28, 2009 I wonder what is the status of the R-37 missile? Has it ever entered the service? MiG-31M and R-37 are incredible powerful system which could deny huge amount of airspace to the opponent. Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
Boberro Posted November 28, 2009 Posted November 28, 2009 IIRC in 1997 researches stopped due of Ukrainian way out of project. Reminder: Fighter pilots make movies. Bomber pilots make... HISTORY! :D | Also to be remembered: FRENCH TANKS HAVE ONE GEAR FORWARD AND FIVE BACKWARD :D ಠ_ಠ ツ
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted November 28, 2009 Posted November 28, 2009 it looks like the R-33S is available ... Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
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