Does it worth?

[Skkuda]

Hi!

First of all, I´m not tryn to start a debate here rather than a good advice.

 

I was reading some VRS F/A-18E SuperbugX product features and Woahhh!!

 

First Question. Do you think that this product can truly compete with DCS Blackshark? I mean in flight simulation terms (To all DCS crew....dont be jealous Im a truly customer of yours and nothing it´s going to change that!!!)

They say that work under U.S. Navy's NATOPS flight manuals!

 

I repeat again Just talking about "Real Aircraft representation in terms of fidelity and Flight Model representation"

Not in terms of Combat (DCS Winner)

Not in terms of Air Navigation procedures (FSim Winner)

 

Second Question. Does it worth buying it?

 

Thanks

Skkuda

[element1108]

I don't think it's a competition. Dcs can't give you everything, only one module at a time. Fsx superbug will give you access to a "high fidelity" f18E in march. Maybe dcs does the f18, but it's a few years away so no problems leaning the ropes on the fsx version on the meantime. ;)

 

I will ne purchasing the fsx payware no doubt! It's not going to be for everybody though. I'm sure there will quite an online community with this as well. Formation tactics, mock engagements, squad mid air refueling, carrier operations etc. I'm sure someone out there will start up a dedicated virtual squadron.

 

Some of the most interesting online experiences can be found in the training. (my opinion of course).

 

Plenty of room for both products if you can afford them!

 

Edit: I'm sure the dcs dev team enjoy other sims as well. To be a good developer one would think being a fan of the genre is also in order.

Edited February 17, 2010 by element1108

[SUBS17]

I have the FS2004 VRS Superhornet and its very good you can do some combat such as SEAD, A/A vs AI aircraft. Ideally you would want VRS to do an addon for DCS since its unlikely ED would ever do the Superhornet at least not for another 10 years anyway.:thumbup:

[joey45]

.....Ideally you would want VRS to do an addon for DCS since its unlikely ED would ever do the Superhornet at least not for another 10 years anyway.:thumbup:

kool, didn't know VRS had access to classifed stuff on the super bug like it's radar and stuff...

[Lucas_From_Hell]

They didn't need it, anyway...

 

Selling combat aircraft without the combat just can't get into my mind. As some wise man said here, the only thing you can kill in FSX is time.

[Skkuda]

Originally posted by joey45

kool, didn't know VRS had access to classifed stuff on the super bug like it's radar and stuff...

That´s what got me thinking and thinking, but are they lying?

I dont think...but

 

Skkuda

[JACN]

the only thing you can kill in FSX is time.

 

Yes, he was right...

 

 

Álvaro

[element1108]

They didn't need it, anyway...

 

Selling combat aircraft without the combat just can't get into my mind. As some wise man said here, the only thing you can kill in FSX is time.

 

They have missile lock, counter measures systems fail when you get hit etc. So this has some form of combat, just not the kind offered in a combat sim. Most combat sims don't have your local airport modeled either so generally if you love aviation you could love this addition.

 

I love general aviation as much as combat, as long as the plane/chopper I'm flying is as close of a representation as possible :)

 

If you're on the fence hold off and I'm sure many will post their feelings on it in these forums.

[claud]

the superbug will never be better than DCS cause its FSX.. the limitaion is too great.

 

it will be a great f-18 but u cant really do anything with it... ohhh they have missile lock big deal..

 

i just hope the next DCS after the a-10 will be a multirole fighter.

[element1108]

I really don't think there's any competition right now for DCS. Definitely not in the way MW2 is going head to head with BFBC2.

 

As I've stated before, sometimes general aviation is all some people want to do. I don't know why but for some reason flying from my local INTL airport to wherever else using VOR or IFR landing in low viz etc is exciting. It will be even more exciting doing it in an F-18.

 

;D

[claud]

FSX could have been exciting if u could throw your passengers out the door midflight at 30.000 feet.

 

other than that its boring as hell. :D look i flew from A to B with autopilot... half the time i was in the bathroom.

 

but some ppl dig that .. heck if i know why ....

 

pulling 9 G in a knife fight over SAM - land ... that will get the heart pumping..

[sinelnic]

Tell you what, go get ORBX extraordinary australian terrain (USA is coming soon, at least a tiny part of it), and then let's meet again for a coffe to discuss FSX's limitations.

 

Oh yes their FMs are shiite, but then go get A2A marvelous "Cub" (yes, J-3), try some spins over the red desert around Ayers Rock and call me when you get to make a full loop.

 

Once all this is done, go get your own personal F-18 to tour the world at Mach ~2, and if you're any bit as fanatical of this as I am, you'll love it.

 

Note: I use three monitors, which enormously enhances the experience, your mileage may vary.

[element1108]

A2A's p47 is a great bird as well. Shows you Ww2 aircraft weren't just throttle forward to go. Climb speed, mixture control, manifold pressure, oil temp, engin temp, oxygen levels above 10,000 feet etc all have to be carefully monitored on top of navigation and situational awareness. It gives a true sense of what the young pilots had to manage back in the day.

 

For me it sure gives a nice hands on approach to historical aviation. So fsx may be boring for some, but is a huge learning and entertainment tool for others.

 

I still can't believe Microsoft abandoned that franchise.

[sinelnic]

I still can't believe Microsoft abandoned that franchise.

 

Me neither... FSX sold extremely well for its market, and while it surely was a costly franchise, it had an enormous, unrivaled potential on MS's grander scheme of things. Think Google Earth, interactive. The fkn holodeck. I still fail to understand how they missed that.

[SUBS17]

kool, didn't know VRS had access to classifed stuff on the super bug like it's radar and stuff...

 

They have modeled radar modes including RWS, TWS, ACM. These days I think its possible to go quite detailed for a combat sim without requiring classified data.

[SUBS17]

They didn't need it, anyway...

 

Selling combat aircraft without the combat just can't get into my mind. As some wise man said here, the only thing you can kill in FSX is time.

 

Not necessarily because there are several groups out there right now trying to make combat mods for FSX. For SP the missions are quite entertaining if you bother to try them out. If they did manage to make combat mods then we would still have the same old graphics/mp issues etc its a real pity ACES has been pretty much cut right back because FSX has alot of potential as a combat sim because of its global map. Now if only ED could get their hands on a Global map for DCS.:thumbup:

[Skkuda]

Originally posted by Claud

other than that its boring as hell

Have to truly disagree....If we really want to know how to make all the real procedures to planning the entire fly from airport A to airport B, fuel calculations, routes to follow, ARC dme procedures, etc, etc. You will never be bored.

 

But we are off topic here.

 

I was asking for "Does it really feels as youre flying like in LOMAC or DCS BS?

Because the Fly sensation in MSFS IMO doesnt fit well (My opinion)

But I realized that this Addon is still in progress....So I think I will have to wait.

 

Skkuda