Dodging AAMRAAMs

[GGTharos]

I know the eagle in RL has the entire bottom hemisphere covered completely, and probably the top one also ... it was in fact a specific improvement done to eagles a very very long time ago.

[RvEYoda]

If you barrel roll around the missile then it will be within 10 degrees of your bank.

It will not drop off your RWR, or you have the geometry wrong.

[combatace]

At most 20.

[RvEYoda]

At most 20.

 

Maybe, depends on how you do it, but definitely not outside rwr limits.

[combatace]

I never heard it stop beeping.

[combatace]

Spoofed many but got hit as I forgot to retract the air-brake.

 

http://cid-30134571227ff399.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/.Public/Lockon/spoof1.trk

[kingneptune117]

I noticed a long time ago that once you bank up or down to much the rwr stops being effective. Its definitely true.

[Oceandar]

Why don`t you guys make a head to head combat in MP to prove your theory and make a track/video of it. It would make poster life`s easier.

[combatace]

Why don`t you guys make a head to head combat in MP to prove your theory and make a track/video of it. It would make poster life`s easier.

 

 

I had more MP hits with this technique than I do in SP. I could have posted the tacview files but some how they got corrupt.

[RIPTIDE]

Spoofed many but got hit as I forgot to retract the air-brake.

 

http://cid-30134571227ff399.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/.Public/Lockon/spoof1.trk

I reviewed your track. There were 2 AIM-120's fired at you. You spoofed none of them. Both hit, the 1st one causing radar and other damage, the second one destroying you.

[combatace]

I reviewed your track. There were 2 AIM-120's fired at you. You spoofed none of them. Both hit, the 1st one causing radar and other damage, the second one destroying you.

 

What did you see, the track or some thing else? I spoofed 4 before getting hit by the 5th and the 6 th one.

 

 

watch by pressing F6 at these timings,

 

1st 12:01:45

2nd 12:02:00

3rd 12:02:21

Edited May 20, 2010 by combatace

[RIPTIDE]

LOL? Mate. You're looking at the same missiles when you are pressing F6.

 

Just look at these, and I'll say it again:

 

There were only TWO AIM-120 launches on you, and both hit you. You managed to get one of the F-15C's (after the fact your radar was knocked out BTW).

 

 

Below I have just about left in the 1st AIM-120 trail as it hit you.

Edited May 20, 2010 by RIPTIDE

[combatace]

don't show me those because as far as I have experienced none are trust worthy. Debriefing as so many problems that I can't define. first 2 are BVR shots and those which actually killed me were WVR shots, can't you even make out that. of course 2nd 120 did hit me but it did not affect me, none of the systems failed. Also, at 1st 12:01:45 I literally pass by that missile than can you tell me how us it going to hit me and more to that I see it getting self destruct at some later. Rather than observing the debriefing and tacview, do one thing observe the track. By the way I was hit by Aim-120B hot is that your log is showing Aim-120C.

Edited May 20, 2010 by combatace

[GGTharos]

There's this river in Egypt, Deh Nile ...

[RIPTIDE]

. Rather than observing the debriefing and tacview, do one thing turn in you labels and than observe the track.

I did 1st. It was only afterwards (for your benefit) that I enabled the TACVIEW.

[nomdeplume]

Maybe you uploaded the wrong track? I just watched it within the game in the F10 map view (with full visibility of everything) and there two missile launches at you, both of which hit you. Definitely no missing at all, and no 120B's were launched in that track.

[asparagin]

Hey man, just post another track and make everyone happy, instead of discussing the great conspiracy.

[Fahhh]

Sure there are inconsistencies in Tacview recordings, But missing missiles - that's very very very rare thing, and I doubt it's the case this time. Your RWR may have gone silent for a sec ro two and you may have thought you've spoofed a missile or two, while actually they were still homing on you...

[combatace]

Well than I'll make a movie and post the link over here. Just now I'm at work so will do it at the first place when I get home.

[combatace]

I think this track should clear doubts of many people.

 

http://cid-30134571227ff399.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/.Public/Lockon/spoof1.trk

 

Also this is tacview file to the above track

 

http://cid-30134571227ff399.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/.Public/Lockon/Tacview-20100521-224744.txt.acmi

 

And this is the tacview to the track I posted earlier.

 

http://cid-30134571227ff399.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/.Public/Lockon/Tacview-20100521-052115.txt.acmi

Edited May 21, 2010 by combatace

[EtherealN]

A note: you know you can attach them to your posts, right? Click "Go Advanced" and use the paperclip icon in the toolbar.

[combatace]

A note: you know you can attach them to your posts, right? Click "Go Advanced" and use the paperclip icon in the toolbar.

 

Thanks for the info. But I really didn't knew that.

[RIPTIDE]

Now you're making sense. Those are different than the one you posted initially. I'm on the road with a POS netbook so I just was able to see the Tac'S. :( Are you using the latest FC 2.0 ? Yes? It would be interesting if a barrel roll still junked missiles consistently.. consistently been the important feature.

Edited May 23, 2010 by RIPTIDE

[Pilotasso]

A barrel roll can still throw off AMRAAMs but youll find to be hard when the adrenaline is pumping or more than 1 missiles are on the way.

[jetace]

Barrel Roll

 

Yes, barrel roll can "dumb" the AAMRAAM, if performed precisely at the right time, and the right position toward missile! :joystick:

.....,but barrel roll cant save you if there's a little time for such to be done or your position is in disadvantage.:cry:

Edited May 24, 2010 by jetace