GGTharos Posted November 4, 2010 Posted November 4, 2010 It was actually the second missile launched at it, IIRC, the first one missed - I can't recall where I heard that one though. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Sov13t Posted November 4, 2010 Posted November 4, 2010 It was actually the second missile launched at it, IIRC, the first one missed - I can't recall where I heard that one though. I heard it takes at least 8 AMRAAMs to shoot down anything... :music_whistling: Here is your NATO sponsored report: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 51st PVO Regiment | Forum | Statistics DCS: MiG-21Bis
GGTharos Posted November 4, 2010 Posted November 4, 2010 I had a slightly better source than your 'hearing'. I'm well aware of the incident. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted November 4, 2010 Posted November 4, 2010 It was actually the second missile launched at it, IIRC, the first one missed - I can't recall where I heard that one though.GG, you are unbelievable ... BTW, F-15 can not carry eight AMRAAM's .... He, he, he .... Back on topic, the IR source of a such tiny aircraft is very small I assume. In my opinion, locking on such small IR signature is quite success. R-73 RULEZ!!! Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
GGTharos Posted November 4, 2010 Posted November 4, 2010 Unbelieveable about what? I never said it meant the missile sucked - in fact IMHO it is a good example for pretty much all missiles contemporary to the one launched. As far as your opinion goes, plenty of missiles can do that - it really doesn't make R-73 (or R-60, if that is what it was) special in any way. GG, you are unbelievable ... BTW, F-15 can not carry eight AMRAAM's .... He, he, he .... Back on topic, the IR source of a such tiny aircraft is very small I assume. In my opinion, locking on such small IR signature is quite success. R-73 RULEZ!!! 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
RIPTIDE Posted November 4, 2010 Posted November 4, 2010 It was actually the second missile launched at it, IIRC, the first one missed - I can't recall where I heard that one though. sounds like BS. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Frostie Posted November 4, 2010 Posted November 4, 2010 sounds like BS. The MiG pilot originally tried to give the 'bird' while doing an inverted 4g negative dive, but then he realised the UAV wasn't at all interested. But thats all classified. :smoke: 1 "[51☭] FROSTIE" #55 'Red 5'. Lord Flashheart 51st PVO "Bisons" - 100 KIAP Regiment Fastest MiG pilot in the world - TCR'10 https://100kiap.org
RIPTIDE Posted November 4, 2010 Posted November 4, 2010 :smoke: Hey man. Smoking is bad for you... but I can't recall where I heard that one though. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Frostie Posted November 4, 2010 Posted November 4, 2010 Hey man. Smoking is bad for you... but I can't recall where I heard that one though. Its a BS ciggy. :) "[51☭] FROSTIE" #55 'Red 5'. Lord Flashheart 51st PVO "Bisons" - 100 KIAP Regiment Fastest MiG pilot in the world - TCR'10 https://100kiap.org
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted November 5, 2010 Posted November 5, 2010 (edited) As far as your opinion goes, plenty of missiles can do that - it really doesn't make R-73 (or R-60, if that is what it was) special in any way.I did not talk about other missiles. Reminder: SAM = Stealth STOP! Edited November 5, 2010 by =4c= Hajduk Veljko Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
Cali Posted November 7, 2010 Posted November 7, 2010 I did not talk about other missiles. Reminder: SAM = Stealth STOP! Stealth = Death Did anyone find a F-15 with 8 x 120's yet? I have seen a few people in the stats board that seem to only use them. i7-4820k @ 3.7, Windows 7 64-bit, 16GB 1866mhz EVGA GTX 970 2GB, 256GB SSD, 500GB WD, TM Warthog, TM Cougar MFD's, Saitek Combat Pedals, TrackIR 5, G15 keyboard, 55" 4K LED
Teknetinium Posted November 7, 2010 Posted November 7, 2010 Here is some real life stuff, Not GG dreams. 1 51st PVO Discord SATAC YouTube
RIPTIDE Posted November 7, 2010 Posted November 7, 2010 Stealth = Death Did anyone find a F-15 with 8 x 120's yet? I have seen a few people in the stats board that seem to only use them. You talking about that thread in photos section down the forum? No picture was found. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Cali Posted November 7, 2010 Posted November 7, 2010 You talking about that thread in photos section down the forum? No picture was found. Yep, that's the one I'm talking about. I'll see if I can ask around and see if anyone that worked on F-15 weapons can help me out. i7-4820k @ 3.7, Windows 7 64-bit, 16GB 1866mhz EVGA GTX 970 2GB, 256GB SSD, 500GB WD, TM Warthog, TM Cougar MFD's, Saitek Combat Pedals, TrackIR 5, G15 keyboard, 55" 4K LED
RIPTIDE Posted November 7, 2010 Posted November 7, 2010 Yep, that's the one I'm talking about. I'll see if I can ask around and see if anyone that worked on F-15 weapons can help me out. Good job. Even inert 8x loadout will be cool. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Cali Posted November 8, 2010 Posted November 8, 2010 Good job. Even inert 8x loadout will be cool. Found this today http://www.af.mil/information/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=101 look at the very bottom. Armament: One internally mounted M-61A1 20mm 20-mm, six-barrel cannon with 940 rounds of ammunition; four AIM-9 Sidewinder and four AIM-120 AMRAAMs or eight AIM-120 AMRAAMs, carried externally. Still looking though... i7-4820k @ 3.7, Windows 7 64-bit, 16GB 1866mhz EVGA GTX 970 2GB, 256GB SSD, 500GB WD, TM Warthog, TM Cougar MFD's, Saitek Combat Pedals, TrackIR 5, G15 keyboard, 55" 4K LED
RIPTIDE Posted November 8, 2010 Posted November 8, 2010 Found this today http://www.af.mil/information/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=101 look at the very bottom. Still looking though... I know... all sources say 8 is possible. A pic would be awesome though. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Frostie Posted November 8, 2010 Posted November 8, 2010 I think carrying 2 Aim-9's seems to be standard for flexibility, as well as making a lot of sense. The F-22 was designed this way. 1 "[51☭] FROSTIE" #55 'Red 5'. Lord Flashheart 51st PVO "Bisons" - 100 KIAP Regiment Fastest MiG pilot in the world - TCR'10 https://100kiap.org
MoGas Posted November 8, 2010 Posted November 8, 2010 Found this today http://www.af.mil/information/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=101 look at the very bottom. Still looking though... I quote a answer from a airwarfare specialist, on my question longtime ago, if 8x AIM-120's are needed, or whatever... "It doesn't matter what the threat, or how well the intercept is run, there is always the possibility that a gomer will get to the merge and then reap havoc - F-16s do it to F-15s all the time. The heaters are an insurance policy that allows them to react very quickly when this happens." So in this case Cali, if you ask youre F-16 pilots on Luke AFB, may the say the same...:)
Teknetinium Posted November 8, 2010 Posted November 8, 2010 (edited) I quote a answer from a airwarfare specialist, on my question longtime ago, if 8x AIM-120's are needed, or whatever... "It doesn't matter what the threat, or how well the intercept is run, there is always the possibility that a gomer will get to the merge and then reap havoc - F-16s do it to F-15s all the time. The heaters are an insurance policy that allows them to react very quickly when this happens." So in this case Cali, if you ask youre F-16 pilots on Luke AFB, may the say the same...:) Obviously, Aim-9 and 73 can turn in much steeper angels due to weight and aerodynamics. In visual range where the bandit pulling Gs you might get more stable lock from heat signature then radar. Edited November 8, 2010 by Teknetinium 51st PVO Discord SATAC YouTube
Cali Posted November 8, 2010 Posted November 8, 2010 I think carrying 2 Aim-9's seems to be standard for flexibility, as well as making a lot of sense. The F-22 was designed this way. You talking about real life here or FC2? I'm thinking real life. I quote a answer from a airwarfare specialist, on my question longtime ago, if 8x AIM-120's are needed, or whatever... "It doesn't matter what the threat, or how well the intercept is run, there is always the possibility that a gomer will get to the merge and then reap havoc - F-16s do it to F-15s all the time. The heaters are an insurance policy that allows them to react very quickly when this happens." So in this case Cali, if you ask youre F-16 pilots on Luke AFB, may the say the same...:) Obviously, Aim-9 and 73 can turn in much steeper angels due to weight and aerodynamics. In visual range where the bandit pulling Gs you might get more stable lock from heat signature then radar. I know when I was deployed our F-16's always had 2 AIM-9's and 120's. Could be the same for the F-15, I'm pretty sure it is. It's kinda hard for me to talk to pilots now cause the shift I am on (10pm-7am) but I'll see if I can some how. I always use the 6x120's and 2xAIM-7's if I'm outnumbered and not many fighters are on my side. My normal loadout is the 4x2x2 which is the best I think. i7-4820k @ 3.7, Windows 7 64-bit, 16GB 1866mhz EVGA GTX 970 2GB, 256GB SSD, 500GB WD, TM Warthog, TM Cougar MFD's, Saitek Combat Pedals, TrackIR 5, G15 keyboard, 55" 4K LED
GGTharos Posted November 8, 2010 Posted November 8, 2010 If some of the short-range issues for AMRAAM and AIM-7 were modeled in-game (Actually, this pretty much goes for all missiles in the game be they east or west) you'd definitely see a need to pack those 9's. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Cali Posted November 8, 2010 Posted November 8, 2010 I think there is always a need to carry them instead of the all 120 loadouts. I guess it all depends on how people fly. Up high and far away from the target, yeah, people like that only carry 120's. Since they never get close, they fire run and repeat. Some don't even wait til the timer goes down. Glad to see that the 120's don't have the ridicules scan zone they had before. i7-4820k @ 3.7, Windows 7 64-bit, 16GB 1866mhz EVGA GTX 970 2GB, 256GB SSD, 500GB WD, TM Warthog, TM Cougar MFD's, Saitek Combat Pedals, TrackIR 5, G15 keyboard, 55" 4K LED
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