twobells Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 Ok, now I am a little anxious, this is my 3rd hog and 'seemed' to be running fine on an external powered hub but since serving dcs a10 yesterday I get the occasional flickering (momentary on/off). I have the hog on it;s own usb hub, trackir to the main board and all my other crap on a separate hub. Any ideas? ps what is strange is that it seems to be somehow connected to dcs a10 in that it doesn't flicker at any other time! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Rig: W10 PRO 64 bit, Intel 7700K, Asus Maximus IX Code, 32GB G-Skill Ripjaw DDR4, EVGA RTX 2080 TI, Samsung 1TB M.2 970PRO SSD Primary HDD, 4TB Storage, TH Warthog, Oculus Rift, 27" Samsung 4k Display. 2x Wheel Stand Pro v2 (Hotas & Stick) + Warthog Stick Adaptor
Yskonyn Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 Just a loose shot here, but are you sure you have a sufficient PSU (power unit) in your PC to provide enough juice too all hardware when under load? Lacking electrical power can result in all kinds of weird behaviour. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Asus Z390-E, 32GB Crucial Ballistix 2400Mhz, Intel i7 9700K 5.0Ghz, Asus GTX1080 8GB, SoundBlaster AE-5, G15, Streamdeck, DSD Flight, TM Warthog, VirPil BRD, MFG Crosswind CAM5, TrackIR 5, KW-908 Jetseat, Win 10 64-bit ”Pilots do not get paid for what they do daily, but they get paid for what they are capable of doing. However, if pilots would need to do daily what they are capable of doing, nobody would dare to fly anymore.”
twobells Posted February 7, 2011 Author Posted February 7, 2011 (edited) Just a loose shot here, but are you sure you have a sufficient PSU (power unit) in your PC to provide enough juice too all hardware when under load? Lacking electrical power can result in all kinds of weird behaviour. Well, I do have a GTX 480 which is a juice hog but am running a 850watt PSU so I dunno.... Processor Model : Intel® Core i7 CPU 980x Mainboard : Asus P6T SE BIOS : AMI 0805 02/24/2010 Total Memory : 6GB DIMM DDR3 Video Adapter : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 Plus two external hubs, one loaded for external hdd and peripherals the other just powering my Hog (am NOT putting my hog to mainboard) Each hub is powered from the main board. Edited February 7, 2011 by twobells [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Rig: W10 PRO 64 bit, Intel 7700K, Asus Maximus IX Code, 32GB G-Skill Ripjaw DDR4, EVGA RTX 2080 TI, Samsung 1TB M.2 970PRO SSD Primary HDD, 4TB Storage, TH Warthog, Oculus Rift, 27" Samsung 4k Display. 2x Wheel Stand Pro v2 (Hotas & Stick) + Warthog Stick Adaptor
Yskonyn Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 850 watts should be fine, however with the current video cards being power hogs you should make sure your PSU has seperate voltage rails and a steady power output instead of peak output. (The exact phraseology slips my mind right now). Cheaper PSU's often don't have steady power output over each rail. This is commonly causing problems with modern hardware. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Asus Z390-E, 32GB Crucial Ballistix 2400Mhz, Intel i7 9700K 5.0Ghz, Asus GTX1080 8GB, SoundBlaster AE-5, G15, Streamdeck, DSD Flight, TM Warthog, VirPil BRD, MFG Crosswind CAM5, TrackIR 5, KW-908 Jetseat, Win 10 64-bit ”Pilots do not get paid for what they do daily, but they get paid for what they are capable of doing. However, if pilots would need to do daily what they are capable of doing, nobody would dare to fly anymore.”
Cowboy10uk Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 Yep I get that as well TwoBells, My Hub is externally powered, But I think It is struggling with the demand. To be honest it dosnt seem to be doing it any harm and apart from the light flicker Ive never had an issue. Touch wood. I do have my Track Ir and Headphones / trackclip plugged in as well, so Im guessing thats it. Try a external powered hub by itself and see if that solves the problem. only £20 and you can never have enough hubs ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Fighter pilots make movies, Attack pilots make history, Helicopter pilots make heros. :pilotfly: Corsair 570x Crystal Case, Intel 8700K O/clocked to 4.8ghz, 32GB Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4 3200 MHZ Ram, 2 x 1TB M2 drives, 2 x 4TB Hard Drives, Nvidia EVGA GTX 1080ti FTW, Maximus x Hero MB, H150i Cooler, 6 x Corsair LL120 RGB Fans And a bloody awful Pilot :doh:
Yskonyn Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 Why do you guys need hubs anyway? ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Asus Z390-E, 32GB Crucial Ballistix 2400Mhz, Intel i7 9700K 5.0Ghz, Asus GTX1080 8GB, SoundBlaster AE-5, G15, Streamdeck, DSD Flight, TM Warthog, VirPil BRD, MFG Crosswind CAM5, TrackIR 5, KW-908 Jetseat, Win 10 64-bit ”Pilots do not get paid for what they do daily, but they get paid for what they are capable of doing. However, if pilots would need to do daily what they are capable of doing, nobody would dare to fly anymore.”
Succellus Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 Why do you guys need hubs anyway? ;) Let me see... Mouse, keyBoard, Joy Throttle Track ir Pedals Printer Ipod Cell phone Mic scanner USB hub TM MFD frame I think thats it...arght! So many cables. HaF 922, Asus rampage extreme 3 gene, I7 950 with Noctua D14, MSI gtx 460 hawk, G skill 1600 8gb, 1.5 giga samsung HD. Track IR 5, Hall sensed Cougar, Hall sensed TM RCS TM Warthog(2283), TM MFD, Saitek pro combat rudder, Cougar MFD.
S77th-konkussion Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 (edited) heh.. yeah I just had to get a 7 port to hook up a webcam I got for Xmas.. And I had already added a 2 port finger plate to get to 8 total.. One of my front ports takes care of at least 3 devices that are not permanently plugged in: Camera, Itouch, ext. SSD, :huh: But Succellus- you could condense a little- A separate scanner & printer? :D Also- FWIW- My microphone/ headphones work great from my front side phonojack. But- I HAD to use that because the USB adaptor that the headset came with was so frickin BLOATED it blocked the port next to it... Edited February 7, 2011 by S77th-konkussion [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=43337&d=1287169113[/sIGPIC]
Yskonyn Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 :D Well you could buy a Logitech G15/17 keyboard and plugin the mouse and Iphone/Ipod/MP3 player in the ports on that one. Frees up two mainboard ports for important hardware. Game controllers and external harddrives usually work best on mainboard USB ports and oftentimes plugging them into USB hubs causes the one or the other problem. konkussion's tip is a good one too! ;) Buying a printer/scanner combo frees up another port. The webcam probably isnt used always, so you could swap that one with the Iphone/MP3 player or something like that, you catch the drift. I am not fond of USB hubs. They have caused more problems than benefit in my case. But last time I used one was years ago, maybe the tech is better today. ;) I, for one, stay away from them anyway. I rather switch around some plugs. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Asus Z390-E, 32GB Crucial Ballistix 2400Mhz, Intel i7 9700K 5.0Ghz, Asus GTX1080 8GB, SoundBlaster AE-5, G15, Streamdeck, DSD Flight, TM Warthog, VirPil BRD, MFG Crosswind CAM5, TrackIR 5, KW-908 Jetseat, Win 10 64-bit ”Pilots do not get paid for what they do daily, but they get paid for what they are capable of doing. However, if pilots would need to do daily what they are capable of doing, nobody would dare to fly anymore.”
S77th-konkussion Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 I didn't want one either... forced into it cause I'm not working- thus cannot get one these sweet new MB's with 10 ports on em.. For anyone else paying attention- ALL my flight controllers are plugged into the main board. The Powered HUB has my canon multi & my HD webcam.. [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=43337&d=1287169113[/sIGPIC]
Yskonyn Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 I didn't want one either... forced into it cause I'm not working- thus cannot get one these sweet new MB's with 10 ports on em.. For anyone else paying attention- ALL my flight controllers are plugged into the main board. The Powered HUB has my canon multi & my HD webcam.. Yes, but are you having trouble with the Hog as well? That's the point; USB hubs and possible problems with the Hog. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Asus Z390-E, 32GB Crucial Ballistix 2400Mhz, Intel i7 9700K 5.0Ghz, Asus GTX1080 8GB, SoundBlaster AE-5, G15, Streamdeck, DSD Flight, TM Warthog, VirPil BRD, MFG Crosswind CAM5, TrackIR 5, KW-908 Jetseat, Win 10 64-bit ”Pilots do not get paid for what they do daily, but they get paid for what they are capable of doing. However, if pilots would need to do daily what they are capable of doing, nobody would dare to fly anymore.”
S77th-konkussion Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 (edited) No- but controllers plugged into hubs are the First thing a "support tech" will blame it on- true or not.. To avoid what might be a ruse to get you out of their hair -endeavor to get your controllers into the MB. Try to limit hub use to printers and other stuff.. That's all I'm sayin' That and a couple items that might save people a port or 2 Edited February 7, 2011 by S77th-konkussion [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=43337&d=1287169113[/sIGPIC]
Slammin Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 Ya know, my Cougar MFD's have been doing this from day one. They constantly drop out and reconnect daily. Sometimes, they won't light back up and I have to go into Device manager and disable/re-enable to get them to light up again. Very random too - sometimes it's the left MFD, sometime the right one. Both were plugged into my monitors USB HUB. I just got my Dell U3011 yesterday and neither of the MFD's are hooked up now. I do have the Hog throttle plugged into the monitor USB hub though. So far, no issues. I also had the Hog plugged into my old monitor, but also ran it plugged into the mobo for a few weeks, no issues. Abit IN9 32x MAX- Kentsfield QX6700 @3520 1.5 vcore watercooled D-Tek Fuzion/PA-160/MCR120/2x MCP655 2x2GB G-Skill 1066 5-5-5-15 2T@1.9vdimm 2x EVGA 580GTX 1.5GB SLI 2x 74GB Sata Raptor Raid0 2x 320GB Hitachi Sata II X-FI Elite Pro Dell U3011 Lian Li V2100B Corsair HX1000
twobells Posted February 8, 2011 Author Posted February 8, 2011 I cannot use my main board USB due to inherent product failure with X59 motherboards. In order for my hog to remain working it needs to be installed on a powered hub. ps: It's stopped since I set my trackir to the mainboard. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Rig: W10 PRO 64 bit, Intel 7700K, Asus Maximus IX Code, 32GB G-Skill Ripjaw DDR4, EVGA RTX 2080 TI, Samsung 1TB M.2 970PRO SSD Primary HDD, 4TB Storage, TH Warthog, Oculus Rift, 27" Samsung 4k Display. 2x Wheel Stand Pro v2 (Hotas & Stick) + Warthog Stick Adaptor
Succellus Posted February 8, 2011 Posted February 8, 2011 You mena your flickering stopped right ? If its true its interesting. HaF 922, Asus rampage extreme 3 gene, I7 950 with Noctua D14, MSI gtx 460 hawk, G skill 1600 8gb, 1.5 giga samsung HD. Track IR 5, Hall sensed Cougar, Hall sensed TM RCS TM Warthog(2283), TM MFD, Saitek pro combat rudder, Cougar MFD.
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