hog_driver111th Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 Well, the whole QFE or QNH call, or am I missing something? I don't think I've ever heard them call "Altimeter......" which is what the real US Military ATC would say in their calls. A-10C - FC3 - CA - L-39 - UH1 - P-51 - Hawk - BS2 - F-86 - Gazelle - F-5E - AV8B - F/A-18C i5-4590 - GTX 1060 - Oculus CV1 - TM:Warthog [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic9979_1.gif[/sIGPIC]
S77th-konkussion Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 I may not be using the proper terminology for the gauge in my previous comment about a 1000 millibars... [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=43337&d=1287169113[/sIGPIC]
GGTharos Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 Ah, I see. That still has nothing to do with millibars :D Unless it's an assumption I'm not aware of! But yeah. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
hog_driver111th Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 Well, being a guy that only flies stateside, I, for some reason, always thought the QNH call was for the millibars... but even still, instead of QNH it should be "Altimeter". A-10C - FC3 - CA - L-39 - UH1 - P-51 - Hawk - BS2 - F-86 - Gazelle - F-5E - AV8B - F/A-18C i5-4590 - GTX 1060 - Oculus CV1 - TM:Warthog [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic9979_1.gif[/sIGPIC]
Itkovian Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 So how do you set the altimeter? I must have missed that part of the manual (unless I'm not there yet, but I'm true the first section on instruments). If anyone has a page number that'd be good enough for me. :) Itkovian
bartleby Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 So how do you set the altimeter? I must have missed that part of the manual (unless I'm not there yet, but I'm true the first section on instruments). If anyone has a page number that'd be good enough for me. :) Itkovian There's a dial at the bottom left of the altimeter. Mouse over it and scroll up/down to change the pressure setting. DCS Wiki! :book:
636_Castle Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 (edited) Well, being a guy that only flies stateside, I, for some reason, always thought the QNH call was for the millibars... but even still, instead of QNH it should be "Altimeter". It shouldn't be "altimeter" nor should it be "QNH". It should be QFE, just like real world operations over there. :) Even still, assuming 29 in place of 30 doesn't seem to give you proper QFE. I was wondering if maybe adding/subtracting QNE would give you a correct reading. Don't know. Fingers are crossed for 1.1.0.8 though! Edited April 7, 2011 by 636_Castle [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] How To Fix Your X-52's Rudder!
Itkovian Posted April 8, 2011 Posted April 8, 2011 There's a dial at the bottom left of the altimeter. Mouse over it and scroll up/down to change the pressure setting. And the pressure setting is displayed in the numbers on the bottom right of the altimeter? If I understand correctly, this essentially then sets the proper ground altitude for the airstrip? Itkovian
bartleby Posted April 9, 2011 Posted April 9, 2011 And the pressure setting is displayed in the numbers on the bottom right of the altimeter? If I understand correctly, this essentially then sets the proper ground altitude for the airstrip? Itkovian Yeah, the four digits in the altimeter are the altimeter setting. The setting the ATC gives you is currently broken, but that is how you set the altimeter. There are a couple different ways to set it. There's QFE (field elevation), which is what the ATC will give you. This is basically setting the altimeter to 0 on the runway There's QNH, which is elevation above sea level of the runway. This is setting your altimeter to the runway's elevation (above sea level) QNE is a standard elevation - "pressure elevation" - 29.92. This won't necessarily give you an exact reference to the ground, but it's useful when you're trying to maintain separation from other aircraft or other such things. Wikipedia has some more on the subject. 1 DCS Wiki! :book:
Frederf Posted April 18, 2011 Posted April 18, 2011 It shouldn't be "altimeter" nor should it be "QNH". It should be QFE, just like real world operations over there. :) There are no USAF operations out of airports in Russia so there's no "real world" to compare it to. In real life A-10s would fly out of Incirlik AB, Turkey. In Georgia (where most of DCS flight takes place) QNH is the standard for civilian and military aircraft. In the fantasy scenario where USAF A-10s are flying out of local airports, controllers are going to be USAF personnel and use USAF procedures, meaning QNH. The only example of USAF using QFE is operating out of RAF bases. I don't know if they still do that any more. Even if for some perverse reason QFE was used, it would only be valid in the terminal environment. More ATC would be needed to provide QNH outside of the airport proximity and definitely before conducting any CAS. Since DCS does not attempt any such ATC, ATIS, or AWAC functionality and the A-10 avionics are heavily biased toward the use of QNH, QFE (or rather QFE alone) is not an option. Even still, assuming 29 in place of 30 doesn't seem to give you proper QFE. I was wondering if maybe adding/subtracting QNE would give you a correct reading. Don't know. Fingers are crossed for 1.1.0.8 though! QFE given by DCS ATC always gives you an altimeter indication of 7,780' on the airport surface. I don't know why but no matter the air pressure or field elevation, it's always 7,780'. The ATC reported QFE and the actual QFE differ by approximately 10" Hg (between 9" and 11") which makes the "subtract one" thing only very, very grossly applicable.
636_Castle Posted April 18, 2011 Posted April 18, 2011 (edited) There are no USAF operations out of airports in Russia so there's no "real world" to compare it to. In real life A-10s would fly out of Incirlik AB, Turkey. In Georgia (where most of DCS flight takes place) QNH is the standard for civilian and military aircraft. In the fantasy scenario where USAF A-10s are flying out of local airports, controllers are going to be USAF personnel and use USAF procedures, meaning QNH. The only example of USAF using QFE is operating out of RAF bases. I don't know if they still do that any more. Nor was I saying there were USAF operations out of Russia, but airplanes do fly in Russia, and when they do, ATC gives them the altimeter calibration setting in QFE, unless at QNE altitude. :) Altimeter setting isn't a preference of the Air Force, it's a mandatory flight rule. The "real world" example you can compare this to, is by looking at the Russian Federation flight rules, which the USAF would adhere to. Edited April 18, 2011 by 636_Castle [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] How To Fix Your X-52's Rudder!
Frederf Posted April 18, 2011 Posted April 18, 2011 You know what's also normal procedure? The entire Russian ATC system. Where is it? Where's approach, departure, center? Where's IFR at all? Not in DCS. Russian aviation is almost exclusively IFR in real life. In DCS it's missing. Sure it is very happy to send out A-10s with Nalchik QFE setting to go bomb a target? What? How does that work exactly? Please describe to me how that works. Your last clearance was 300m height on take off. ATC doesn't say a word after that. What do you do?
Rainmaker Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 Bumping this thread since the new patch dropped... I haven't had any time to fly or install the patch...but is this one fixed now? :D Specifically the correct numbers that were way off in the last patch...
derelor Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 Yes, it is fixed in v1.1.0.8 1 1338 - beyond leet ED Forum rules EN|DE|RU
Rainmaker Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 Yes, it is fixed in v1.1.0.8 Fast response... Thank you!
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