thbrix Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 Hi Considering buying the Thrustmaster Warthog, but do i also need a set of rudders. I know that would be optimal, but is there any usable solutions without rudders?
-odin- Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 Yes, you could use the Friction axis on the throttle unit. It is not used by default in DCS Warthog. To not confuse you, there are two Friction controls on the unit. One which act as an axis and has no physical effect on the unit. And one who does affect the friction, but is not located where it is in real life, and thus is not visible in throttle quadrant in the cockpit. I can post a picture if this is hard to understand :-) ОДИН [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Succellus Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 Well its not practical at all i tried it and it gave me an: Cease and desist.... So i bought the saitek pro combat rudder. HaF 922, Asus rampage extreme 3 gene, I7 950 with Noctua D14, MSI gtx 460 hawk, G skill 1600 8gb, 1.5 giga samsung HD. Track IR 5, Hall sensed Cougar, Hall sensed TM RCS TM Warthog(2283), TM MFD, Saitek pro combat rudder, Cougar MFD.
Lacanian Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 @Succellus - How do you find the saitek pro combat rudder? I am looking at rudder pedals to purchase as well. Death and destruction! Oooh Rah! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
MustangSally Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 Lacanian, Could I just add that i purchased the Combat pedals only a few days ago. Advice from a gent here on the forum advised me to add a Curvature of 30 and a dead zone of about 5. Once I had applied those settings, the pedals work fantastically. I can't belive how smooth and accurate they are. Def a good buy imho. :thumbup: Ryzen 9 7950X3D - MSI MAG X670E TomaHawk MB, ASUS ROG Ryujin III 360 AIO 64gig Corsair DDR5@6000, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4090 AORUS Winwing Super Taurus, Orion2, TO / Combat panels, Collective with Topgun MIP Winwing Skywalker pedals, NLR Boeing Mil Edition Simpit, 55" Samsung Odyssey Ark, Trackir
BaD CrC Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 Fully agreed. I am using this Saitek combat rudder for a few weeks now, and they are above everything in this price range. I sold my good old CH Rudder who suddenly looked and felt like a toy compare to this rudder. I just hope Saitek's one will be as reliable as CH one. https://www.blacksharkden.com http://discord.gg/blacksharkden
Pyroflash Posted May 9, 2011 Posted May 9, 2011 I really want to buy the pro combat rudders, and I would, if my office chair didn't swivel... If you aim for the sky, you will never hit the ground.
Succellus Posted May 9, 2011 Posted May 9, 2011 As anything in our Hobbyjob, you buy it and you have to mess with curves, deadzones and whatnot. That when not heavily addicted people don t build it from scrath. I ve not the gut to do such yet, i m sure i would end up with something truly AFU. They work fine, so far my chair swivel too but adjusting pressure, curve and whanot they are fine. There s even people opening them up like a fish to remove the detent. Im very satisfyed really. There s better but you ll have to pay at least double, and unless you have a problem of money surpluss (in that case please contact me) they are worth it. HaF 922, Asus rampage extreme 3 gene, I7 950 with Noctua D14, MSI gtx 460 hawk, G skill 1600 8gb, 1.5 giga samsung HD. Track IR 5, Hall sensed Cougar, Hall sensed TM RCS TM Warthog(2283), TM MFD, Saitek pro combat rudder, Cougar MFD.
bumfire Posted May 9, 2011 Posted May 9, 2011 The saitek pro combat rudder pedals are great, i wouldrecommend them to anyone who is in need of good pedals.
bumfire Posted May 9, 2011 Posted May 9, 2011 I really want to buy the pro combat rudders, and I would, if my office chair didn't swivel... I use an swivelling office chair with my combat pedals and the chair doesnt even come into the equation, no movement fromt he chair whilst using the rudder.
Lacanian Posted May 9, 2011 Posted May 9, 2011 There s better but you ll have to pay at least double, and unless you have a problem of money surpluss (in that case please contact me) they are worth it. What are the better products you are speaking off? (Besides DIY). Death and destruction! Oooh Rah! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
bumfire Posted May 10, 2011 Posted May 10, 2011 What are the better products you are speaking off? (Besides DIY). Simped.
Lacanian Posted May 10, 2011 Posted May 10, 2011 (edited) Rudders Purchase Options: DHS Electronics - Simped F16/C - $385 USD Saitek - PRO Flight Combat Rudder Pedals - $200 USD I have just stumbeled upon these rudders in this forum post. http://vkb-flightsimcontrols.com/index.php - Mk18-1 - 1 axe (only rudder) $300 - Mk18-2 - 2 axes (rudder and brakes on 1 footstep) $360 - Mk18-3 - 3 axes (rudder and brakes on both of footsteps) $410 Edited May 10, 2011 by Lacanian consolidated multiple post of mine into one summary. Death and destruction! Oooh Rah! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
bumfire Posted May 10, 2011 Posted May 10, 2011 To be honest with ya, I think the saitek pedals will do just fine, ofcourse if you have extra cash and want the best then go simped, but the saiteks are really good. Seriously, they are great things those saitek combat pedals, I cant speak of the other saitek pedals but the combat ones are great and you wont be dissappointed should you choose them. 1
TheBigDog Posted May 10, 2011 Posted May 10, 2011 absolutely must agree with everyone else, Saitek Combat pedals rock with the Warthog
-odin- Posted May 11, 2011 Posted May 11, 2011 I got my Saitek Combat pedals yesterday and was looking forward to unbox them and try them, but right now I am a little bit dissapointed, because they don't feel silky smooth. They are very precise, no doubt but when I push the left pedal forward it almost feels like it travel over some gravel halfway (a bit exaggerated, but you get the point). Is this normal or am I up for a RMA? Because right now, I am in doubt if I should sell my Hofmann pedals or not. ОДИН [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Lacanian Posted May 11, 2011 Posted May 11, 2011 Would someone like to share their experience with a review of the Simped pedals they have purchased? Death and destruction! Oooh Rah! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Speed Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 I use an swivelling office chair with my combat pedals and the chair doesnt even come into the equation, no movement fromt he chair whilst using the rudder. Same, though I bought the pro-flight pedals as I didn't really see the point of the more expensive ones. Intelligent discourse can only begin with the honest admission of your own fallibility. Member of the Virtual Tactical Air Group: http://vtacticalairgroup.com/ Lua scripts and mods: MIssion Scripting Tools (Mist): http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=98616 Slmod version 7.0 for DCS: World: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=80979 Now includes remote server administration tools for kicking, banning, loading missions, etc.
Marder Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 ... Saitek - PRO Flight Combat Rudder Pedals - $200 USD... First off: thanks for the links. The Saitek description says: "Self cantering with adjustable damping". Do they mean "centering"? Because the auto-centering was the reason why i sold my normal Saitek Rudder Pedals. MB: Intel DX79TO; Core i7 3820 (3,6 ghz); SPU: Asus Xonar D2X; GPU: AMD XFX 7970 BE OC (3GB); RAM: Kingston 8 GB DDR3-1333 Quad-Kit; HHDs: G.Skill Phoenix SSD (for OS&DCS), WD 1 TB + WD 160GB; PSU: be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 10 550W; Display: EIZO Foris 2333-BK; OS: WIN8 Pro 64bit (latest updates); TM HOTAS Warthog; CH Rudder pedals; Cougar MFDs; iPad Mini with iControl DCS; TrackIR4 + TrackClipPro. A10 startup procedure -->
EbonySeraphim Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 Sorry to hijack this thread somewhat - I had the same problem after I got my HOTAS Warthog and realized I needed rudder pedals (I upgraded from a TM HOTAS X). So I went out and got the Saitek Rudder Pedals. Anyone know what the toe brakes should map to? Wheel or air brakes? CPU: 5950x || Memory: 64GB || GPU: RTX 4090 Input: Virpil CM3, TM F/A-18 Grip on Virpil WarBRD base, WW F-16EX grip on TM Warthog base, Virpil CP1 and CP2, Cougar MFD x2 / w CubeSim screens, StreamDeck XL x2, StreamDeck 15-key, TrackIR5
-odin- Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 Anyone know what the toe brakes should map to? Wheel or air brakes? If you have TM Warthog then you will have airbrakes on your throttleunit if you use the default setup, so you should map left and right wheelbrakes to your pedals. 1 ОДИН [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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