A few questions, new to these.

[AussieSausage]

Hello forums.

 

I am new to these kind of games. I played DCS: Black Shark, and I loved it but took me forever to learn and kind of gave up.

 

Question 1: Has anyone got a Saitek X52 profile, I'm still learning the controls, and half of the stuff I don't even know what it is, therefore I don't know what controls are mandatory on the joystick, as my Keyboard is most of the times out of reach when my joystick is set-up

 

Question 2: How the heck do you remember all this? I get up into the air, and then it's a whole new world, setting up guns, changing guns, all the way-point stuff.

 

Question 3: How do you adjust the ADI pitch thing? I've done the start-up procedure about 5 times and still can't figure it out when I'm taking off.

 

Sorry for the big post and questions, am hoping some pro on here would be willing to help me out.

 

Thankyou very much, also nice game, need more quality games on the Market :thumbup:

 

EDIT: Forgot to mention/ask. I am using a Eyefinity setup, running 3xU2211H monitors, I tried setting my Resolution to 5760x1080 and 3 screens, but it looked all weird, so gonna work on flying this thing before I bother with my screen setup.

 

I think I will need to pause and read the manual everytime I want to play this game.

Edited May 6, 2011 by AussieSausage

[Wartski]

1. http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=58795

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=58484

 

2. Just learn one thing at a time.

 

3. I don't know either.

 

Would be nice to had the guru sim'rs make some more training videos.

[Frogfoot1606687865]

 

Question 1: Has anyone got a Saitek X52 profile

 

Sorry I can't help with that one, I'm sure someone will be along with one later. However in my opinion you can't beat creating your own profile. Just try to incoperate all the HOTAS functions on the real stick and you will be fine. (See the back of the quick start manual for keymappings for the HOTAS)

 

Question 2: How the heck do you remember all this?

Bite sized chunks, Watch a few tutorial videos, run through the training missions in order, only progressing when you fully understand all aspects of the current mission.

 

Don't expect to hop in, start her up, take off navigate locate and destroy targets all in one go. Many people spend many weeks simply learning to basics of flight, navigation and emergency procedures, before they even turn on the master arm switch.

 

Question 3: How do you adjust the ADI pitch thing?

 

I'm not sure I know what you mean.

 

 

Hope some of this helps, above all enjoy learning, it is a great feeling when you start to master the aircraft and systems and you can start to concentrate on tactics.

Tom

[RodBorza]

Cannot help with the first one, but can with the other two:

 

Question 2) Answer: Read the manual, do the Instant Action - East Georgia Spring - Easy mission. Destroy the trucks. Quit. Read the manual how to engage with rockets and bombs. Get back to the mission. Attack the Trucks. Proceed to the trucks plus infantry. Quit. read the manual how to attack with LGB's. And...well..you got it. This is how I learned. Doing that mission a 50+ times and reading the manual as doubts arised. It took me a lot of time, but in the end it was worth the effort.

 

3) If I undesrtood your question right, you have to "pull the knob" on the backup ADI. Put your mouse over it, you'll get a simbol of two curved arrows around it. Then, it's a matter of scrolling down with the mouse wheel. You'll see that the ADI will come to center and the knob will be released.

[fael097]

no, you'll need to pause and read the manual only during the first flights.

actual pilots take a long time to learn everything. we manage to learn in less than a month with the documentation presented to us.

 

I ain't no pro at all, but will try to help a little.

 

1.if you have trackIR or some sort of head tracking system, you wont have to assign view panning/zooming to your joystick, that saves a lot of buttons. I'd learn all HOTAS functions first, then see what buttons you're gonna use, and assign them. I had a hard time configuring all hotas commands to a 12 button joystick, but it was worth it. 3 position switches, for example the pinky switch, you can assign to a single button through a cycle. i dont know if you can do it through saitek software, i personally use a program called xpadder, that you can program your buttons the way you want. for example, i have one button to cycle flaps, like F>F>Shift+F>Shift+F and then back. saved me using one button to expand, another one to retract.

 

2. don't you play any instruments? its like that, you have to remember zillions of notes, for different songs, but with practice, it sticks to your head, and you'll remember without even thinking.

[AussieSausage]

Thankyou everyone, will take your advice and get back in the pilot seat after I have a snooze, its 1am here.

 

Got the ADI thing now to, thanks for that ( forgot who posted about the knob, it was right :thumbup: )

 

I play the guitar, been playing for many many many years so I guess it is kinda the same aspect :doh:

 

Thanks for the help fellas, appreciate it lots.

 

I just decided to put the joystick aside until I get used to all the buttons ect ect, when I get all that, I'll pull out the joystick and make my own profile :D

[USAF77]

Well I'm kinda new so maybe I can help you as I'm also in the same boat "so to speak".

 

I recommend you do "something A-10c" everyday. Even if its only leave manual print outs next to the crapper and reading a page every day. Or, even better, actually fly and train a little every day.

 

Its kind of overwhelming diving into all this. And here I was thinking I was a fairly experienced flight simmer. The truth is however I really knew nothing about sophisticated sims like this, other then knowing how to actually fly and land the thing. I was able to do that the first day.

 

But to operate the entire system ? All the systems ? Thats a different story.

 

I'm not worried tho, in all truth. I have found that the pleasure of this sim is in the learning and the training. Before I bought it I even posted here that I didn't want to go thru a 6 min start up process, only to eventually find out that I actually enjoy the 6 min start up process.

 

Its new. Its fun. Just enjoy the ride.

 

BTW remember that with some X52 profiles the actual mapping is done with button numbers in the games .Lua files and not in the Saitek SST software. For instance in Jacks profile you'll only see a slider and the mini-mouse stick mapped. However each and every button on the X-52 has a number attached, you can see most in the control panel when you open it from your task bar. Even the Hat directions have numbers attached. Its those numbers that are mapped to controls when you Load the .Lua file that also unzips with the SST file.

Edited May 6, 2011 by USAF77

[GGTharos]

You should make the profile first rather than using the keyboard. In the manual you'll find a HOTAS function chart between p80 and p90, IIRC.

 

Have a good look at it, you'll find that the functions are grouped logically and conveniently. All the major things you'll want to do function the same way in most modes. Ie. the DMS is always used to zoom in/out where zoom is available (eg. TAD, TGP, MAV), or it cycles waypoints up/down (eg HUD), the slew control always slews aimpoints or cursors, the china hat always slaves to SPI, NAV, or boresight, and switched major zoom modes, while the TMS always sets SPI or somehow designates or selects targets.

 

Use these a few times and you will remember reflextively.

[jctrnacty]

If you really want to master A-10 you have to do it step by step. begin with interactive tutorial and learn startup proocedure. Then begin with taxiing to runway and learn to use radio. set everything to hardest settings.

 

and then after mastering flying a and landing learn to use weapons.

 

and after all this battlefield is yours start with campaign.

 

P.S.: Use these mattwags videos to learn more.

 

http://www.youtube.com/user/wagmatt

Edited May 6, 2011 by jctrnacty

[BBall]

Aussie,

 

First of all, WELCOME to the world of the “Hog”!

 

Second, I don’t own an X-52, so can’t help ya there.

 

 

Third, here’s a thread with some thoughts on ONE WAY to train to fly something this complicated...

 

 

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3284270/Mostly_for_the_newbies_some_th.html#Post3284270

 

Good luck!

 

 

Have a great day all,

 

BBall

[TigersharkBAS]

aussie,

try and fly with someone in multiplayer who is willing to teach you. Works wonders. But you'll need to learn some of the basic terminology like CDU, DSMS, TAD, UFC and the names for the HOTAS buttons (eg. china hat, boat switch).

 

Learn those and someone can get you up to speed quite quickly.

[jeffyd123]

Hi Aussie,

 

Try this sub forum for your stick >>>http://forums.eagle.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=135

 

This will help with the HOTAS commands >>> http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=69610

 

 

What I did when the sim was new was just fly around and shoot oil tanks and get the feel for the plane and start learning the HOTAS.

[AussieSausage]

How do I start a mission from the ground? Every mission I choose I'm starting in the air.

[nomdeplume]

It's dependent on the setup of the player's first waypoint in the mission editor. You can load the mission in the editor and change the first waypoint to 'takeoff from ramp' for a cold start or 'takeoff from runway'. If you're altering stock missions, I'd suggest copying it to your personal missions folder and modifying the copy.

[AussieSausage]

I'm just picking one from the "missions" section in the Main menu.

 

I'm up to the Navigation practice session, even harder then the start up procedure :p

[nomdeplume]

I'm just picking one from the "missions" section in the Main menu.

 

Then you're just getting lucky (or unlucky, as the case may be). Some of the missions are designed for quick action, others with the full startup. I'd recommend the 'Hideout' mission for a reasonably easy mission when starting out, and this is a ramp start. Alternatively there's three variations of the free flight mission: one ramp start, one runway start, one air start.

 

'Defend Camp Yankee' is also a ramp start.

 

Khashuri Gap is runway start and not too bad for a beginner/intermediate level.

 

Of course, I'd recommend doing the training and being reasonably proficient with weapons employment before trying any of the 'serious' missions.