csper Posted May 18, 2011 Author Posted May 18, 2011 (edited) We solved a lot of argument numbers of cockpit animations but we couldnt solve how we design a F-16 HUD AA and AG it must be multirole. If we cant create F-16's MFDs, we thought how we can place F-15's MFDs, TEWS and A-10's camera.. but we couldnt..:huh: These are our big problems for making a good F-16C.. Edited May 18, 2011 by c@sper [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
rattler Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 It would be nice for them to do that, but I wonder how many will use those tools for evil things. :cry: I suppose one could submit to ED but they don't have the time or resources so that is out. I guess trust must come in but as you say some may do the wrong things. Unfortunately for us.:cry:
aaron886 Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 I also adapted LEAVU2 to get the mechanical state of the aircraft and make a little display for arrestor hook state etc for carrier landing (since I often fly with VNAO). So this is entirely possible. To be fair, this is a totally different animal, and quite simple by comparison. But I hear you on some of the programming/DX API stuff.... it's far from impossible, just similarly far from easy.
LawnDart Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 LawnDart, Looking at the TO, the DFLCC will send signals to the command servo to schedule the LEF position depending on mach number, AOA and altitude. With Weight on both gears, wheel speed over 60 knots and throttle at idle or less the LEF will position 2 degrees up (or 1 inch above the strake) The full travel is 1 inch up ( 2 degrees) to 12 1/2 inches down ( 25 degrees) My point is I think their model is good on that area Thanks for looking into it. :) 1 [sigpic]http://www.virtualthunderbirds.com/Signatures/sig_LD.jpg[/sigpic] Virtual Thunderbirds, LLC | Sponsored by Thrustmaster Corsair 750D Case | Corsair RM850i PSU | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS X CODE | 32GB Corsair DDR4 3200 | Intel i7-8086K | Corsair Hydro H100i v2 Cooler | EVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW | Oculus Rift | X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty | Samsung SSD 970 EVO 1TB NVMe | Samsung SSD 850 EVO 1TB | WD Caviar Black 2 x 1TB | TM HOTAS Warthog | TM Pendular Rudder | TM MFD Cougar Pack | 40" LG 1080p LED | Win10 |
mvsgas Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 We solved a lot of argument numbers of cockpit animations but we couldnt solve how we design a F-16 HUD AA and AG it must be multirole. If we cant create F-16's MFDs, we thought how we can place F-15's MFDs, TEWS and A-10's camera.. but we couldnt..:huh: These are our big problems for making a good F-16C.. I don't know anything about programing nor modeling ( I'm just a dumb mechanic) but if you model an original A model, the A-10 video screen and the F-15 RADAR screen in FC2 would work. I have no idea how but it would be accurate in terms of the way avionics look like in the pit and you would only have to worry about one screen. Weapons configuration would be simple also. AIM-9, dumb bombs and mavericks. To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Alper22 Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 I thought that there are probably argument numbers for MFD screens and HUD. Maybe we can experiment it with adding unknown argument numbers to flat materials in cockpit. "Let my armies be the rocks, and the trees, and birds in the sky"
aaron886 Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 I thought that there are probably argument numbers for MFD screens and HUD. Maybe we can experiment it with adding unknown argument numbers to flat materials in cockpit. It has been done, put your mind to rest. It's not possible without CMD tools, to any of our knowledge.
prok Posted May 25, 2011 Posted May 25, 2011 Amazing work 141st_casper. Please contact ED team. FC3 is coming soon. Question was opened about adding f-16 to the new FC release. ★★★ ★★★
aaron886 Posted May 25, 2011 Posted May 25, 2011 (edited) Not to be rude, but I don't think this F-16 is accurate enough to meet the commercial standards of ED. Very nice and smooth, of course, but not very accurate shaping. Edited May 26, 2011 by aaron886
LawnDart Posted May 26, 2011 Posted May 26, 2011 For someone who's spent a great deal of hours looking at F-16 shapes and versions, I'd have to agree. There's still a fair amount of work needed on this model. It doesn't take much for a shape like the F-16 to be "off" just enough, and a lot of times you can't put your finger on exactly what's wrong - but you know it ain't right. Keep up the good work! [sigpic]http://www.virtualthunderbirds.com/Signatures/sig_LD.jpg[/sigpic] Virtual Thunderbirds, LLC | Sponsored by Thrustmaster Corsair 750D Case | Corsair RM850i PSU | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS X CODE | 32GB Corsair DDR4 3200 | Intel i7-8086K | Corsair Hydro H100i v2 Cooler | EVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW | Oculus Rift | X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty | Samsung SSD 970 EVO 1TB NVMe | Samsung SSD 850 EVO 1TB | WD Caviar Black 2 x 1TB | TM HOTAS Warthog | TM Pendular Rudder | TM MFD Cougar Pack | 40" LG 1080p LED | Win10 |
john_X Posted May 26, 2011 Posted May 26, 2011 of what i've seen ED had an f-16, and it was a very accurate model. i don't see why would they appeal us for any of our models.
Geraki Posted May 26, 2011 Posted May 26, 2011 keep walking boys ... select/search info ... also all we can help them with one or another way ...
ED Team Skylark Posted May 26, 2011 ED Team Posted May 26, 2011 Eagle Dynamics has a model of F-16 with WIP status... This model has shape based on blueprints by General Dynamics...
aaron886 Posted May 26, 2011 Posted May 26, 2011 it's not about blueprints here But it should be! :thumbup: I have no doubt these VTAI guys are more than capable of improving the shaping accuracy while keeping the excellent smoothing.
Blaze Posted May 26, 2011 Posted May 26, 2011 But it should be! 100% i7 7700K | 32GB RAM | GTX 1080Ti | Rift CV1 | TM Warthog | Win 10 "There will always be people with a false sense of entitlement. You can want it, you can ask for it, but you don't automatically deserve it. "
Gupyzer0 Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 ED wont help you, try to find help in the comunity, the ones that know wont help you ... deal with it ... sad but true ..
Alper22 Posted June 13, 2011 Posted June 13, 2011 Awesome job! How's this coming along? Any news? We are working on cockpit textures, then cockpit animations will be on the list. "Let my armies be the rocks, and the trees, and birds in the sky"
Moa Posted June 13, 2011 Posted June 13, 2011 (edited) Alper22 kindly gave me the mesh for the cockpit (as 3DS and OBJ). It only took a couple of hours to write an OBJ loader and have it project in 3D (I'm using Java with JoGL, so things are pretty easy). There appears to be some reverse vertex normals in the converted OBJ so I've decided to switch to using 3DS directly. 3DS also allows animations of the cockpit controls (eg. landing gear lever). Unfortunately there isn't a decent stand-alone 3DS loader for Java. I'm looking at Java3D (although I personally prefer the bare-metal JoGL for the extra control) but have started writing my own 3DS loader (it's a bastard of a format). At the moment I have no time for the next week or so (trying to adapt the 104th's pilot stats system to the debrief.log changes in A-10C 1.1.0.8 and work commitments) and then I'll be back into it. Once the cockpit model is loaded and shaded correctly the things left to do are: * integrate the view direction with LockOn (easy, thanks to Yoda's work on Leavu2). This means the cockpit will move with TrackIR or whatever you use for pointing in LockOn. * MFD and HUD texture-mapping. Easy. This gives the live MFD and HUD that the 141st guys wanted. * 'Picking' this allows you to click on the MFD buttons in-cockpit. This is reasonably easy. * overlay. There are several approaches for this. I'm gonna try quick n' dirty first and see how that goes. * Optimization. Profiling everything and seeing where performance can be squeezed. Anyway there is progress, a few days of solid work to complete, but finding the time at the moment is the hard part. Edited June 13, 2011 by Moa 1
MiGgressor Posted June 13, 2011 Posted June 13, 2011 Great news! Any chance for some screenies? Keep up the good work :thumbup:
Pougatchev Posted June 13, 2011 Posted June 13, 2011 ED wont help you, try to find help in the comunity, the ones that know wont help you ... deal with it ... sad but true .. Agree... I think ED is something like that about helping the community in modding: :D /
Alper22 Posted June 13, 2011 Posted June 13, 2011 Hey Moa! Thank you for informing us about your progress. As you know its possible to put HUD and MFD's on custom cockpits finally. So we might want to move upon this if you get tired on experiments. "Let my armies be the rocks, and the trees, and birds in the sky"
Moa Posted June 13, 2011 Posted June 13, 2011 Cool. I'll play around myself with custom F-16 MFDs rather than the LockOn ones as I've been wanting to do that for ages. Don't let me hold you back from releasing the F-16!
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