Community seems to be in trouble...

[OhmWrecker]

I've been promoting DCS:A-10C Warthog at Voodoo Extreme pretty heavily since it appeared on my radar, and of course couldn't get enough of it once I dove into the beta. Since I wasn't able to log into multiplayer in the beta phases for some reason I only got around to exploring that aspect of it in the past month or so.

 

Now the reality has hit. The majority of servers are password protected, and those that aren't either have teamkillers or admins who are too quick to punish people if they so much as think other player damage was dealt or will be.

 

Take tonight for instance, I won't name names but there's a server up at the moment operated by someone I've seen before in other games. Cool I thought, I'll jump in. Bad idea. I don't mind that this guy was running some weird mission requiring a landing and rearm first, but while I was waiting for others to take off I went in for a low pass and got kicked. Then I got kicked, and kicked, and kicked.

 

The one instance I was allowed back in I asked why the server was kicking me, and the admin said he was the one kicking me. I didn't team kill anyone nor make any attempt to do so. I'll admit to goofing off around the runway sometimes, but the only time I've actually intentionally gone after someone is if they've teamkilled others on purpose or me directly. This was not the case on the server.

 

All I had done was spend my time to land, rearm, refuel, and take back off. I was waiting for someone to follow to target since I'm not familiar with the process of inputting waypoints or working with AWACS for targets. Maybe the trigger happy admin thought I was about to teamkill, but despite some odd 20+ attempts to reconnect he wouldn't let me back in to discuss his reasonings.

 

If you guys out there want to see this community grow and DCS prosper you can not treat other players like this. I don't care how many teamkillers you've seen, being extra strict on the kick trigger is just as bad as locking up the servers. If any new player deals with this you better believe they're going to give up after awhile. DCS: A-10C Warthog is a good enough simulation to support several times the player count I've been seeing.

 

Here's a business lesson for you. For Eagle Dynamics to continue to make these games they've got to keep moving copies. If you care about flight sims then do everything you can to make a proper experience for other players, and don't get on crazy power trips. You can get away with it in other games with sizable communities, but when you lock out players from servers with the highest headcounts you're creating a recipe for disaster. If you want to be stuck playing games like H.A.W.X. one day then keep it up, hardcore sims are already struggling.

 

What ticks me off most is here I am trying to get sufficient experience in multiplayer for a review of all things (you know, that might even help DCS pull in new players), and I've got to deal with a power tripping admin in a VERY small community that offers very few public alternatives.

 

Rant mode off.

Edited June 2, 2011 by OhmWrecker

[luza]

so make your own server? :)

[GGTharos]

No, he's right about his experience. It shouldn't be like this.

 

FYI OhmWrecker, ping me if you want to get some online experience.

[NullCharacter]

It was my server and I was the one kicking you. If you come back, I will kick you again.

 

You conveniently left out the part about how you were shooting at other player aircraft at the field. You then attempted to re-connect about 50 times with varying player names, further solidifying my decision to kick you.

 

I have a zero tolerance policy regarding people who screw around, especially if it may affect others trying to complete the mission. Please don't come back to my server anymore.

[Bearitall]

It was my server and I was the one kicking you. If you come back, I will kick you again.

 

You conveniently left out the part about how you were shooting at other player aircraft at the field. You then attempted to re-connect about 50 times with varying player names, further solidifying my decision to kick you.

 

I have a zero tolerance policy regarding people who screw around, especially if it may affect others trying to complete the mission. Please don't come back to my server anymore.

 

 

Interesting well then I won't come to your server..maybe he was getting frustrated...by the non activity of other members...just my opinion ...

 

What I have found since I first joing ED Forums...is that there is a lot of members that give the " Air " of superiority...attitude..that their the best and no one else compares...funny as Admin/Owner of TCL-Team Combat League..no one ... sorry very few take the challenge..of Air to Air Combat..matches..for league/ladder status..we've been up and running since 2006..and will continue to be active...soon with some improvement to our site..we will be holding a Seasonal Tournament with cash prizes ..and if anyone wishes to contribute to adding to these prizes..they are more than welcome ....just come over and add your interest...

[Wags]

Good post, thanks Ohm.

[Bearitall]

It was my server and I was the one kicking you. If you come back, I will kick you again.

 

You conveniently left out the part about how you were shooting at other player aircraft at the field. You then attempted to re-connect about 50 times with varying player names, further solidifying my decision to kick you.

 

I have a zero tolerance policy regarding people who screw around, especially if it may affect others trying to complete the mission. Please don't come back to my server anymore.

 

Also I just wish to add this..always remember the sim community is not like FPS..communities..where it is rampant...and this person could have been someone who was just getting interested in the flight sim's and your action now could have chased him away...from our community...we should always be more helpful ..than deterant..:joystick::pilotfly:

[ZQuickSilverZ]

NullCharacter maybee there was a misunderstanding. From reading OhmWrecker's post he does not strike me as the typical troublemaker. It is your server of course, but maybee you should have investigated just a bit. Did you even ask him for an explanation? Maybe I am wrong but he does not sound like a griefer to me. Does he sound like a griefer to you guys?

Edited June 2, 2011 by ZQuickSilverZ

[S77th-konkussion]

If he was shooting at other players- he deserved to get kicked. Personally- I fully support that call- assuming those were the facts.

 

Making low passes? No- of course not. Not unless he was told to stop and copped an attitude.

 

Null- if you're interested in a suggestion- We have had this dumb kid who used to constantly buzz players on the ground and generally irritate everyone. I solved this pretty quickly with a kick, obviously. When he came back in, he was told "One slip up- you're done for good." (abbreviated version)

 

Seems to have worked to this point (few months)

[OhmWrecker]

It was my server and I was the one kicking you. If you come back, I will kick you again.

 

You conveniently left out the part about how you were shooting at other player aircraft at the field. You then attempted to re-connect about 50 times with varying player names, further solidifying my decision to kick you.

 

I have a zero tolerance policy regarding people who screw around, especially if it may affect others trying to complete the mission. Please don't come back to my server anymore.

 

You're absolutely full of it. I was making a low pass in the direction of another player, but I was not attempting to teamkill anyone. Occasionally I will goof around and shoot a significant distance away from a player, yes. You're making it sound like I went off an attacked players. If I had wanted to teamkill people I had four clusterbombs loaded, and I'm no slouch on the GAU-8. There were 2-3 players around the area I was doing a low pass on.

 

The hard headed power trip attitude you're showing is the type of stuff that kills these kinds of communities. Not a single round or munition carried by my A-10 struck any player, nor did I ever pose a risk to anyone by doing a low pass as there was no one else in the air. I wouldn't risk my reputation as a writer by going off on a teamkill spree especially after I took the 20-25 minutes to fly to the airfield, land, re-arm, re-fuel, and then get permission to take off again.

 

It takes a lot to piss me off but you sure did it tonight. Your behavior towards me was absolutely unwarranted, I did nothing to deserve it. It's not just the kick, but then your subsequent 25-30 kicks by the end of it all (yes including the 5-10 after I made this post) as I was trying to figure out why I was kicked in the first place. If you actually had any respect for the DCS playerbase you'd have given me a chance to listen to why you kicked me.

 

If it was any other game I would have said screw this jerk and have gone somewhere else, but the smaller community doesn't give me the luxury of server hopping most nights. You just happened to have the server tonight that was not only public but also where everyone seemed to be playing. Now you're telling me not to return. This is the kind of stuff you want me to consider in my review, right? Awesome man, seriously.

Edited June 2, 2011 by OhmWrecker

[Speed]

Isn't OhmWrecker a reviewer for some online publication? If he did fire shots, did you even consider that it might have been for the sound effect? I like screwing around with low passes, and I do this sometimes to my squad mates- I get right overhead of them, and fire my gun. Of course, the bullets fall harmlessly, like a mile away from the airbase, but the sound effect of the gun burping scares them a bit :)

 

Still, firing your gun as an unknown person on a public server like that would be a b.a.d. idea, and likely to get you kicked because people just assume the worst.

[S77th-konkussion]

And- this has been said ad nauseum- many of those locked servers only require you to join their TS channel to get the password.

[OhmWrecker]

Isn't OhmWrecker a reviewer for some online publication? If he did fire shots, did you even consider that it might have been for the sound effect? I like screwing around with low passes, and I do this sometimes to my squad mates- I get right overhead of them, and fire my gun. Of course, the bullets fall harmlessly, like a mile away from the airbase, but the sound effect of the gun burping scares them a bit :)

 

Still, firing your gun as an unknown person on a public server like that would be a b.a.d. idea, and likely to get you kicked because people just assume the worst.

 

Yes that's me (as mentioned somewhat in the OP). I've seen Null several times before in servers, I wouldn't see why he'd consider me an unknown person. Heck, he probably read some of my coverage at VE especially the interview with Wags not too long ago. I've been all about making sure that people know about DCS: A-10C Warthog, and have done as much as I can to support it.

 

I do goof around sometimes yes, but by no means was I trying to teamkill anyone. He makes it sound like I was actively attacking people on the ground. The truth is I had just turned around after reading the briefing again and realizing that I had no clue how to get to the targets. It was literally the first "low" pass I was making towards the airfield, and absolutely no one on the ground was at risk of dying. I was kicked before I was even close to the A-10s. It just makes no sense.

 

The real kicker though is how he happily spent the next 20 minutes or so kicking me, even after my client crashed 3 times during reconnects. Aren't we adults here? It's not like I was capable of jumping right back in and griefing people if that's something I was actually doing. He could have acted like a mature adult and said "listen man, here's why you were kicked I don't want you on my server."

 

Getting back to the whole point of my rant though anyone that hosts a server has a responsibility to act as an ambassador of sorts for the DCS community. Null's server was up for over 6 hours and was nearly full when I saw it indicating to me it'd be a good server to join if I wanted interact with more people. He has a responsibility to protect the players in his server sure, but he had equal responsibility to represent the community's standards if he actually suspected that I was going off the acceptable path. Again, I caused zero damage to the other players, and had just as much time invested as them in landing, rearming, and refueling.

 

If someone was complaining to him that I had gone and carpet bombed everyone over and over again I could understand some aggressive admin behavior. That wasn't the case. I spent a chunk of time (nearly a half hour) following the mission guidelines just like everyone else. I wasn't trying to ruin anyone's night, but he saw fit to ruin mine.

 

I've seen trigger happy admins before, and given his attack against me in this forum he's the absolute definition. New blood won't put up with it, I can tell you that. Lose the new blood and you're stuck with the old timers who can only sustain a community for so long. New players are bound and even the most likely to make mistakes, but they need to be guided not blacklisted.

Edited June 2, 2011 by OhmWrecker

[Ranger79]

Fly on my server anytime, we use tars and have a great time, tonight had 6 players in, no problems. Server will be up 1930 cst tonight. Check out some videos from our fun sorties on my youtube channel. Even if u dont use tars come on in, more the merrier.

 

*Ranger79 Coop Server*

Edited June 2, 2011 by Ranger79

[Kuky]

I don't know who did what I can say that if you are a new player and are goofing around you have to understand people who take trouble to make and fly missions with more effort then just goofing around it is irritating when someone is goofing around in that server... really... if someone wants to just goof around why join an online server in the first place? You can goof around in either offline mission or make your own server and call it "goofing around" etc

 

From personal experience also if I see someone comming in and does a pass right at me and it looks like he's about to straff me on the ground and he does shoot near me.... that's an instant kick.

 

On the other hand people making a server should specify in mission brief what mission is for etc and best provide comms info... if someone really want to just fly around all by himself then let them, but I have to admit the style of missions you can do in DCS modules right now is not complimentary for unknown people to join and play as a team with you... for this we need new DCS modules where you can have PvP gameplay... then it won't matter any more if someone new comes in... he doesn't have to fly with you... if he is on your side you can pretty much ignore him (unless he starts TK-ing etc) and if he's on other side... well you want to kill him anyway.

 

From initial post I didn't get the impression he was a goofing/Tk-ing type but since you said he straffed players on the ground and then he said he wasnt' shooting at them says he did straff with guns so I can understand why he got kicked... think about that if you get few of your buddies at the same time for a mission.. how long it will take them to start the server... pick a mission (first talk about what they wanna do etc etc)... then it does take some time to start everyone up... now imagine you've spent some 10-15min doing all this and someone pops in and starts mucking around... and straffing... I would want to kick that person also... reason being why pre-emptive kick might be good in some case is to kick this person before he TK's someone who took time to start the machine up... etc etc... now everyone is gonna have to wait for him to start it up again etc etc... and now again imagine this happening on numerious occasions... or at least once a day when you fly... it will get anoying very quickly and you will have less and less patience with people who only want to muck around and soon after will simply decide you'll lock the server to prevent such from happening again.

 

So I don't see it only one sided that it's only people starting the servers as not having any patience... I don't see why anyone would have to "baby sit" others... we are not kids anyway (big majority here are quite developped adults)... and new guys do need to realise at the moment that it is not cool to mess around in other people's servers... if they want to do that (mess around and just goof around) it would help all if they actualyl said it in game chat... say you are here just to goof around/test/whatever and I am sure when you say it like that people will not mind as they will know what you are up to... and unless it doesn't affect them everyone is fine and everyone winns.

[OhmWrecker]

Kuky, I didn't even have the chance to try doing strafing runs on people over and over as he made it sound. I had turned around and was doing a low pass. Everyone was on the ground, I was waiting for them to take off so I could follow someone to the targets. Before I could even fly past the planes on the ground I was kicked, then he kicked me non stop from that point on as if it was his life's dedication to do so.

 

This specific mission had everyone start in the air with instructions to land, rearm, refuel, and then fly west. I had just as much time invested as everyone else. As I mentioned before if I was out to kill people I had 4 clusterbombs available. I also wasn't in a good position to strafe people anyways, EAC was turned on.

 

Fly on my server anytime, we use tars and have a great time, tonight had 6 players in, no problems. Server will be up 1930 cst tonight. Check out some videos from our fun sorties on my youtube channel. Even if u dont use tars come on in, more the merrier.

 

*Ranger79 Coop Server*

 

Thanks man, I'll keep an eye out for your server.

Edited June 2, 2011 by OhmWrecker

[Kuky]

Look, it's no biggie... don't get put off so quick... you'll find bunch of people you can fly with soon enough.

 

As soon as we get a DCS fighter and PvP play this will change to same situation as with FC/FC2 where most servers will not be passworded as that would be counter productive :)

[Cali]

Interesting well then I won't come to your server..maybe he was getting frustrated...by the non activity of other members...just my opinion ...

 

What I have found since I first joing ED Forums...is that there is a lot of members that give the " Air " of superiority...attitude..that their the best and no one else compares...funny as Admin/Owner of TCL-Team Combat League..no one ... sorry very few take the challenge..of Air to Air Combat..matches..for league/ladder status..we've been up and running since 2006..and will continue to be active...soon with some improvement to our site..we will be holding a Seasonal Tournament with cash prizes ..and if anyone wishes to contribute to adding to these prizes..they are more than welcome ....just come over and add your interest...

 

Just cause someone thinks they are the best or one of the best in A2A doesn't mean they want to try your league. I think I'm not to bad in guns and I have never did TCL and most likely won't. I don't know how people fly in TCL, but if they do it like I have seen in some gun servers they it's just plain crap. You get people doing these insane moves that no real life pilot would do. The prizes you have are very nice and it would truely take being very good to win. With prizes involved, I see people doing anything to live and that means unreal moves and other stupid stuff. I could be wrong and I hope I am, but then again we are dealing with people on the internet :D.

 

It is sad to see and hear of so many closed DCS A-10C servers, but you can only blame those that think they are funny by tking people.

[ErichVon]

I've been promoting DCS:A-10C Warthog at Voodoo Extreme pretty heavily since it appeared on my radar, and of course couldn't get enough of it once I dove into the beta. Since I wasn't able to log into multiplayer in the beta phases for some reason I only got around to exploring that aspect of it in the past month or so.

 

Now the reality has hit. The majority of servers are password protected, and those that aren't either have teamkillers or admins who are too quick to punish people if they so much as think other player damage was dealt or will be.

 

Take tonight for instance, I won't name names but there's a server up at the moment operated by someone I've seen before in other games. Cool I thought, I'll jump in. Bad idea. I don't mind that this guy was running some weird mission requiring a landing and rearm first, but while I was waiting for others to take off I went in for a low pass and got kicked. Then I got kicked, and kicked, and kicked.

 

The one instance I was allowed back in I asked why the server was kicking me, and the admin said he was the one kicking me. I didn't team kill anyone nor make any attempt to do so. I'll admit to goofing off around the runway sometimes, but the only time I've actually intentionally gone after someone is if they've teamkilled others on purpose or me directly. This was not the case on the server.

 

All I had done was spend my time to land, rearm, refuel, and take back off. I was waiting for someone to follow to target since I'm not familiar with the process of inputting waypoints or working with AWACS for targets. Maybe the trigger happy admin thought I was about to teamkill, but despite some odd 20+ attempts to reconnect he wouldn't let me back in to discuss his reasonings.

 

If you guys out there want to see this community grow and DCS prosper you can not treat other players like this. I don't care how many teamkillers you've seen, being extra strict on the kick trigger is just as bad as locking up the servers. If any new player deals with this you better believe they're going to give up after awhile. DCS: A-10C Warthog is a good enough simulation to support several times the player count I've been seeing.

 

Here's a business lesson for you. For Eagle Dynamics to continue to make these games they've got to keep moving copies. If you care about flight sims then do everything you can to make a proper experience for other players, and don't get on crazy power trips. You can get away with it in other games with sizable communities, but when you lock out players from servers with the highest headcounts you're creating a recipe for disaster. If you want to be stuck playing games like H.A.W.X. one day then keep it up, hardcore sims are already struggling.

 

What ticks me off most is here I am trying to get sufficient experience in multiplayer for a review of all things (you know, that might even help DCS pull in new players), and I've got to deal with a power tripping admin in a VERY small community that offers very few public alternatives.

 

Rant mode off.

 

Fly Aces High, http://www.hitechcreations.com/

 

No such stupid, silly stuff exists on their servers. They do have rules to fly by, just do not violate their rules.

 

You can play 24 hours a day. Costs $15 per month. The jets are perked. Learn to fly the jets on the training server or spend 2,000 perk points learning in their Main Arena.

 

A lot of guys in Aces High, though, do not play fair and play the sim as an arcade game and do the HO (Head On) or the ram as to the characteristics of playing online and lag and the timing difference between what you see on your monitor and what your opponent sees as to who survives a ram.

 

Multiplayer to DCS is a joke!

 

The few guys that do have open servers---THANK YOU. But open servers tend to get the smart-donkeys that like to strafe and kill you on the ramp while you are doing a start-up sequence. Strategy to Aces High is start up, spawn in to an airfield a base or two back to takeoff, tends to lessen the vulture attack. Land a base or two back to land and score your points. To DCS Multiplayer, sometimes landing a base back to avoid the vultures, I cannot get fixed or re-armed to go out again and must start over.

 

I truly love flying the DCS A-10C, but I am also going back to Aces High.

 

 

 

Erich

Edited June 2, 2011 by ErichVon

[bengo]

A locked server does NOT mean you're not welcome. It means you need to take the effort to look up the teamspeak information in the mission description, presented in the lower section of the serverlistscreen or on the squadron website/forum. Then log on to TS, read the briefing and come fly with us. Simple.

If you want to fly freestyle, create your own server in the list and invite likeminded people in, passworded or non-passworded, I'll leave that up to.you.

[ErichVon]

I don't know who did what I can say that if you are a new player and are goofing around you have to understand people who take trouble to make and fly missions with more effort then just goofing around it is irritating when someone is goofing around in that server... really... if someone wants to just goof around why join an online server in the first place? You can goof around in either offline mission or make your own server and call it "goofing around" etc

 

From personal experience also if I see someone comming in and does a pass right at me and it looks like he's about to straff me on the ground and he does shoot near me.... that's an instant kick.

 

On the other hand people making a server should specify in mission brief what mission is for etc and best provide comms info... if someone really want to just fly around all by himself then let them, but I have to admit the style of missions you can do in DCS modules right now is not complimentary for unknown people to join and play as a team with you... for this we need new DCS modules where you can have PvP gameplay... then it won't matter any more if someone new comes in... he doesn't have to fly with you... if he is on your side you can pretty much ignore him (unless he starts TK-ing etc) and if he's on other side... well you want to kill him anyway.

 

From initial post I didn't get the impression he was a goofing/Tk-ing type but since you said he straffed players on the ground and then he said he wasnt' shooting at them says he did straff with guns so I can understand why he got kicked... think about that if you get few of your buddies at the same time for a mission.. how long it will take them to start the server... pick a mission (first talk about what they wanna do etc etc)... then it does take some time to start everyone up... now imagine you've spent some 10-15min doing all this and someone pops in and starts mucking around... and straffing... I would want to kick that person also... reason being why pre-emptive kick might be good in some case is to kick this person before he TK's someone who took time to start the machine up... etc etc... now everyone is gonna have to wait for him to start it up again etc etc... and now again imagine this happening on numerious occasions... or at least once a day when you fly... it will get anoying very quickly and you will have less and less patience with people who only want to muck around and soon after will simply decide you'll lock the server to prevent such from happening again.

 

So I don't see it only one sided that it's only people starting the servers as not having any patience... I don't see why anyone would have to "baby sit" others... we are not kids anyway (big majority here are quite developped adults)... and new guys do need to realise at the moment that it is not cool to mess around in other people's servers... if they want to do that (mess around and just goof around) it would help all if they actualyl said it in game chat... say you are here just to goof around/test/whatever and I am sure when you say it like that people will not mind as they will know what you are up to... and unless it doesn't affect them everyone is fine and everyone winns.

 

As to not being kids, but mature adults...

 

I tend to disagree, much like road rage here on USA freeways as to how some "adults" and they are over age 30, mentally act just like a kid, especially the Internet mentality of saying whatever one wishes to say in a forum that would never be spoken within fist range if truly spoken in person.

 

Go take some psychology courses.

 

The one server I like to fly is the S77th Savage. You fly outside of their rules structure, which by-the-way is fairly strict, you won't be flying with them.

 

Erich

Edited June 2, 2011 by ErichVon

[Bearitall]

Just cause someone thinks they are the best or one of the best in A2A doesn't mean they want to try your league. I think I'm not to bad in guns and I have never did TCL and most likely won't. I don't know how people fly in TCL, but if they do it like I have seen in some gun servers they it's just plain crap. You get people doing these insane moves that no real life pilot would do. The prizes you have are very nice and it would truely take being very good to win. With prizes involved, I see people doing anything to live and that means unreal moves and other stupid stuff. I could be wrong and I hope I am, but then again we are dealing with people on the internet :D.

 

It is sad to see and hear of so many closed DCS A-10C servers, but you can only blame those that think they are funny by tking people.

 

Well this is why we have Game Admin's to review matches..to determine whether someone is cheating...and we have in the past with the old Flaming cliffs ruled against winners of these so called moves..you speak of..but that was the old Flaming Cliffs..the newer version is a bit harder to do this..beside shortly we will be introducing TCL-Team Combat League's Anti-Cheat program(free) for Falcon..and here is most probably we will be launching our Seasonal Tournaments...we do have in place for FC2 something similar with FC2 integrity check..but right now we are currently working on the Anti-Cheat(along the lines of punkbuster) for Falcon..once this is completed we will start on one for FC2...as for you not wanting to come and take some active participation...no problem...but just remember the lack of interest stops most developers from making and great strides in/for the Flight Sim community..I mean DCS may not be around forever...remember its a business and if there is a lack of interest(profit)..they just move in another direction..lan parties are great which DCS has done...but thats the extent..we are hoping one day to have a Convention for All Flight Sim's...thats my dedication to the Community....I am a neutral person to all this sure I like to fly but its mostly about being with others...not as a competitor...happy flying...:pilotfly::thumbup:

Edited June 2, 2011 by Bearitall

[Cali]

Well this is why we have Game Admin's to review matches..to determine whether someone is cheating...and we have in the past with the old Flaming cliffs ruled against winners of these so called moves..you speak of..but that was the old Flaming Cliffs..the newer version is a bit harder to do this..beside shortly we will be introducing TCL-Team Combat League's Anti-Cheat program(free) for Falcon..and here is most probably we will be launching our Seasonal Tournaments...we do have in place for FC2 something similar with FC2 integrity check..but right now we are currently working on the Anti-Cheat(along the lines of punkbuster) for Falcon..once this is completed we will start on one for FC2...as for you not wanting to come and take some active participation...no problem...but just remember the lack of interest stops most developers from making and great strides in/for the Flight Sim community..I mean DCS may not be around forever...remember its a business and if there is a lack of interest(profit)..they just move in another direction..lan parties are great which DCS has done...but thats the extent..we are hoping one day to have a Convention for All Flight Sim's...thats my dedication to the Community....I am a neutral person to all this sure I like to fly but its mostly about being with others...not as a competitor...happy flying...:pilotfly::thumbup:

 

I'm talking about mainly in guns, like rolling around like a fool, trying to get the person to overshoot you. I'm sure you have seen that unreal move, that no pilot would do. Nice to hear about the new features you guys will have.

[Boberro]

I am bit surprised there are still TKers around... ServMan has already been released so...

Anyway in coming Flaming Cliffs 3, there will be possibility to fly A-10C in well known, blessed good reputation servers like 104th, or 51st and so on.

 

If TKers are still present on server it is only Admin fault. Either he didn't set rules properly in ServMan, or he just doesn't care of the situation. In both situations just don't enter the server and choose other one. If there aren't many open servers... that's pity, it will be solved itself in Flaming Cliffs 3, where servers amount will be increased dramatically.

[Bearitall]

I'm talking about mainly in guns, like rolling around like a fool, trying to get the person to overshoot you. I'm sure you have seen that unreal move, that no pilot would do. Nice to hear about the new features you guys will have.

 

Thank you:thumbup:

 

We are always looking for someone to join our Admin Team...in helping make the Flight Community...bigger and better than before...

 

Anyways..like I have said ... once our Anti-Cheat for Falcon is completed and tested..we will Launch our Seasonal Tournament...

 

Check your Six..

 

TCL-Admin*Bearitall

:pilotfly::joystick:

Edited June 2, 2011 by Bearitall