Migow Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 (edited) hi all , we all know that the ka 50 in dcs lack rwr, i "fix" that: i made a mod 0.1 the sam now use also laser sensor so you can see them when they track you and from where:thumbup: it's better too install with modman -- update now i release LWS act like RWR 0.2 the sam now track only at missile or gun range, now if you have too be more careful the mission with this mod should be done with only one group of every sam with acquisition radar like dog ear (ovod) or EWR or kupol etc it 's important the sam without them will react too much delay . in one group there is link like "IADS". look here http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=80678 download the mod here http://files.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/112461/ Edited October 28, 2011 by Fifou265 update member of 06 MHR / FENNEC Mi-24P
Migow Posted October 12, 2011 Author Posted October 12, 2011 now the sa13 can be seen on lws flare againstsa13.trk member of 06 MHR / FENNEC Mi-24P
GGTharos Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 Cheating. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Migow Posted October 12, 2011 Author Posted October 12, 2011 (edited) :huh: where is the rwr?:mad: where is the sead communication when they spot sam? no one tell you only trigger , and trigger............ my fix is realistic as the non existent communication in this game :D Edited October 12, 2011 by Fifou265 member of 06 MHR / FENNEC Mi-24P
MTFDarkEagle Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 The Ka-50 simulated DOES NOT HAVE a RWR. So, it's cheating! Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread
GGTharos Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 There is no RWR. Do not expect one, because that helicopter does not have one. Realistically, you should simply not be operating where those SAMs are operating. If you have to, the deal with it accordingly to the defficiencies existing within your aircraft :D However! :D This is just my opinion, and you're naturally free to ignore it :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Migow Posted October 12, 2011 Author Posted October 12, 2011 (edited) there are no sead communication to tell you the rwr is a kit and can be deployed if we need it we play theatre of war where there is sam: we need it . russia use ka 50 against tchechen sure they don't need it but against radar sam i need it when you need helo where there is sam you adapt them with useful kit Edited October 12, 2011 by Fifou265 member of 06 MHR / FENNEC Mi-24P
159th_Viper Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 As far as I am concerned you're free to blow bubbles from your cannon in SP........just do not attempt that in MP. That said, I'm sure the IC will catch you. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Migow Posted October 12, 2011 Author Posted October 12, 2011 There is no RWR. Do not expect one, because that helicopter does not have one. Realistically, you should simply not be operating where those SAMs are operating. If you have to, the deal with it accordingly to the defficiencies existing within your aircraft :D However! :D This is just my opinion, and you're naturally free to ignore it :D when you need RWR you can equip your helo : spo 32 etc.. many them THEN DCS IS WRONG WHEN THEY SIMULATE A WAR AGAINST USA VS RUSSIA, there is no such thing , SO WHO IS WRONG?:noexpression: member of 06 MHR / FENNEC Mi-24P
Migow Posted October 12, 2011 Author Posted October 12, 2011 As far as I am concerned you're free to blow bubbles from your cannon in SP........just do not attempt that in MP. That said, I'm sure the IC will catch you. it 's a patch for who want fly in a high threat sam and public MP is crap (in every game) i play with my team member of 06 MHR / FENNEC Mi-24P
159th_Viper Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 when you need RWR you can equip your helo : spo 32 etc.. many them...... DCS simulates the airframe 'as it is' and not 'as it can be' if X or Y was to occur, maybe hopefully, sometime....... As for your War scenario, again: DCS simulates the components of the war as close as to RL as possible. What you elect to do with the components is up to you - nobody ever said that's realistic. The modelling of the said components - that however is. Get the distinction? Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Migow Posted October 12, 2011 Author Posted October 12, 2011 IT 's an upgrade kit for HEAVY sam threat if you want to play with it if there was a sdk in this game i would have model a true rwr : no way too add rwr 3d model , and logic etc.. member of 06 MHR / FENNEC Mi-24P
EtherealN Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 when you need RWR you can equip your helo : spo 32 etc.. Incorrect. An RWR is not something you just bolt on. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
Migow Posted October 12, 2011 Author Posted October 12, 2011 Incorrect. An RWR is not something you just bolt on. then the MWS on some ka 50 ? it's a kit member of 06 MHR / FENNEC Mi-24P
159th_Viper Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 IT 's an upgrade kit for HEAVY sam threat if you want to play with it if there was a sdk in this game i would have model a true rwr : no way too add rwr 3d model , and logic etc.. Like I said - whatever floats your boat. Why are you even attempting to justify your reason? Bottom-line is that while the DCS Kamov accurately resembles Kamov's currently in operational service/retired from operational service, your Kamov currently represents the fruits of an over-active imagination..........I prefer the former. Again - whatever tickles your fancy. I've heard that Photon-Torpedo's work quite well against anything from MANPAD'S to Heavy Destroyers. You might wanna give that a go to up your survivability rating even more ;) Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Eddie Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 then the MWS on some ka 50 ? it's a kit No it isn't, not in the way it sounds that you are thinking. Installing things like this on an aircraft is a major upgrade, it's not like fitting a new stereo to your car, you can't just buy a box of parts and fit them in a few hours. Carrying out these sort of upgrades to aircraft takes months, per aircraft, and costs a lot of money. It's a major undertaking for the RAF and the USAF to carry out such upgrades, let alone for airforces/armies with less infratructure and funding.
Migow Posted October 12, 2011 Author Posted October 12, 2011 Like I said - whatever floats your boat. Why are you even attempting to justify your reason? Bottom-line is that while the DCS Kamov accurately resembles Kamov's currently in operational service/retired from operational service, your Kamov currently represents the fruits of an over-active imagination..........I prefer the former. Again - whatever tickles your fancy. I've heard that Photon-Torpedo's work quite well against anything from MANPAD'S to Heavy Destroyers. You might wanna give that a go to up your survivability rating even more ;) WTF, i just set this fix so people who want to use it can use it, it seems no one have release it but many complain lack rwr when we fly in high sam threat "Why are you even attempting to justify your reason" what you are talking about? member of 06 MHR / FENNEC Mi-24P
Speed Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 (edited) Sure, while this is cheating, it's not as bad as having labels on. I bet a few other folks out there will appreciate the effort. I appreciate the effort too, but I prefer to fly my helo as real as possible myself. The only cheating I like to do is to occasionally modify some Lua files and like, make my GAU-8 shoot nuclear bombs. But people shouldn't be so hard on "cheaters". After all, who are we cheating when we cheat? Just a set of 1's and 0's, no actual humans (so long as it stays in single player). It honestly doesn't matter; in fact, ED made so much of DCS editable in Lua just so that people could mod it (though, they really had their military users in mind- as I understand it, a Russian software company can't really make classified software for the USA, so the classified parts get added via Lua here in the States). Edited October 12, 2011 by Speed Intelligent discourse can only begin with the honest admission of your own fallibility. Member of the Virtual Tactical Air Group: http://vtacticalairgroup.com/ Lua scripts and mods: MIssion Scripting Tools (Mist): http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=98616 Slmod version 7.0 for DCS: World: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=80979 Now includes remote server administration tools for kicking, banning, loading missions, etc.
159th_Viper Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 what you are talking about? We try our damnedest to prevent Science-Fiction interfering in what is otherwise an outstanding Simulation :thumbup: Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Migow Posted October 12, 2011 Author Posted October 12, 2011 Like I said - whatever floats your boat. Why are you even attempting to justify your reason? Bottom-line is that while the DCS Kamov accurately resembles Kamov's currently in operational service/retired from operational service, your Kamov currently represents the fruits of an over-active imagination..........I prefer the former. Again - whatever tickles your fancy. I've heard that Photon-Torpedo's work quite well against anything from MANPAD'S to Heavy Destroyers. You might wanna give that a go to up your survivability rating even more ;) then tell me why the campaign there are f18 sa8 etc... :doh: my fix is wrong as the campaign in DCS(science fiction) member of 06 MHR / FENNEC Mi-24P
Migow Posted October 12, 2011 Author Posted October 12, 2011 We try our damnedest to prevent Science-Fiction interfering in what is otherwise an outstanding Simulation :thumbup: what you are talking about dcs compaign is science fiction in ka50 or a10 you are talking about ka 50 in low threat sam but almost all time it's high threat sam even OFFICIAL compaign WHO IS WRONG? and RUSSIA against USA "to prevent Science-Fiction " member of 06 MHR / FENNEC Mi-24P
Nate--IRL-- Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 I don't get the negativity towards this. It may be unfaithful to the real Ka-50, but who cares? It is MOD if you don't like it don't install it. What the hell is the problem? Since when did Modding become "Cheating"? Nate 2 Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
159th_Viper Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 then tell me why the campaign there are f18 sa8 etc... :doh: my fix is wrong as the campaign in DCS(science fiction) I said it before and I'll say it again: DCS provides you with accurately simulated components. What you elect to do with those components is, whilst not realistic, certainly a plausible scenario (ie, Cold War between USA and USSR etc etc). Do you see the distinction yet? Important to keep the components (In this instance, the Kamov) as real as possible! To substantiate your argument you'll need to provide an example of a component of the simulation that is currently not realistic and I'll submit a bug-report to get it fixed. Until then, by all means pimp your Kamov in private - just do not attempt to portray it as anywhere near 'realistic' or plausible in a DCS environment ;) Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Migow Posted October 12, 2011 Author Posted October 12, 2011 I don't get the negativity towards this. It may be unfaithful to the real Ka-50, but who cares? It is MOD if you don't like it don't install it. What the hell is the problem? Since when did Modding become "Cheating"? Nate exactly nate :thumbup: , all this trolling for a mod :D i thought i killed someone it just a mod member of 06 MHR / FENNEC Mi-24P
Migow Posted October 12, 2011 Author Posted October 12, 2011 (edited) I said it before and I'll say it again: DCS provides you with accurately simulated components. What you elect to do with those components is, whilst not realistic, certainly a plausible scenario (ie, Cold War between USA and USSR etc etc). Do you see the distinction yet? Important to keep the components (In this instance, the Kamov) as real as possible! To substantiate your argument you'll need to provide an example of a component of the simulation that is currently not realistic and I'll submit a bug-report to get it fixed. Until then, by all means pimp your Kamov in private - just do not attempt to portray it as anywhere near 'realistic' or plausible in a DCS environment ;) plausible scenario "science fictionnnnnnnnnn":D the thing is if you need to use in high sam threat the ka 50 it wil be updated with rwr : better than a downed ka 50 the compaign is irrealistic , no one tell there is f18 no one engage them ... no sead , no "jtac" onb CAS (with trigger = coordinate and wp marker) , no trigger for late recon against sam, no intercept against enemy helo Edited October 12, 2011 by Fifou265 1 member of 06 MHR / FENNEC Mi-24P
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