WildBillKelsoe Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 Hello, I'm now in the mission "Koda" and I just navigate through these mountains, and pop 7 klicks from a row of Abrahimi tanks, order my wingman to do a 2 klick recce, he spots the not, and when its time to get down to business, I cant lock with the shkval??More over, hes shot down even after data-linking the target to him. (please explain engage target by type/targets by type/ target/targets option on the radio menu..) cloud base at 2000... Should I change the Shkval optics mode (even though I know its not functional in the sim..)? Does the contrast and/or brightness has anything to do with locking the targets? or do I have to stay too low...?? Also, when is the deployment campaign portion finished? Its about time I moved seaward.. Another thing: the Maikop radio station.. are there other radio stations tuned on the AM?? I know its 125675 AM on the radio panel (as opposed to 127500 for mission) but it certainly beats the boredom one feels when playing the switches on these long flights. Oh! I almost forgot! The funnel.. How to do it?? Per the manual, 100 KIAs sideways, and 30-35 neg pitch.. Does that mean I have to nose up?? I saw vids of nose down and funnel.. How am I supposed to maintain the targets? Shkval? Sometimes, mission has YOU...!!! Thanks in advance.. AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
Jona33 Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 Coda is the last mission of Deployment. Sorry I can't remember much but verify that Laser is on, the switch next to it make sure it is set up (AT I think) In 1.02 the Maykop station doesn't work anymore. Not sure about funnel. Depends on you target although 30-35 negative means nose down. Always remember. I don't have a clue what I'm doing
Jaximus Decimus Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 As long as you're below the cloud deck you shouldn't have any problems locking the targets up. Even if you can't get a lock you can designate and fire manually in a pinch. The difference between attacking "Target" or "Targets" is that when attacking Targets your wingman will attack targets in a 3 kilometer radius from your locked target, datalink point, or target point. When just attacking Target he will only engage targets in the direct vicinity of the specified point. If you use the "By Type" modifier he will only attack the type of targets you tell him to, be that ADA, Ground, or Other. For more info on commands you can check out section 14-3 of your manual. As far as the funnel goes, if you're going for a clockwise funnel you will need right rudder, left bank and negative (nose down) pitch. You have to balance these all out until you're flying in a nice little circle. I'm sure the more experienced guys here could explain it better.
adam12 Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 Does changing the contrast on the tv display have any bearing on how easy the target can be locked? Or is this merely a visual change for the pilot?
159th_Viper Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 Only for the benefit of the pilot as far as I recall. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
WildBillKelsoe Posted October 22, 2011 Author Posted October 22, 2011 As long as you're below the cloud deck you shouldn't have any problems locking the targets up. Even if you can't get a lock you can designate and fire manually in a pinch. The difference between attacking "Target" or "Targets" is that when attacking Targets your wingman will attack targets in a 3 kilometer radius from your locked target, datalink point, or target point. When just attacking Target he will only engage targets in the direct vicinity of the specified point. If you use the "By Type" modifier he will only attack the type of targets you tell him to, be that ADA, Ground, or Other. For more info on commands you can check out section 14-3 of your manual. As far as the funnel goes, if you're going for a clockwise funnel you will need right rudder, left bank and negative (nose down) pitch. You have to balance these all out until you're flying in a nice little circle. I'm sure the more experienced guys here could explain it better. Thanks Jaximus. One thing though, is that the wingman also got a datalink point in the following manner: 1- Creating and saving an ingress point to my own ABRIS; Nav panel off Hover engaged Shkval uncaged and slewed to ingress coordinates I-251 update not overfly Shkval locked without Autotrack Datalink type ingress pressed Datalink send mem pressed Home icon appeared on ABRIS 2- Send to wingman 2 Nav panel off (no waypoint or tgt point selected, all lights off) Datalink type ingress pressed DL wingman key 2 pressed DL type ingress pressed again and ingress point blinking with wingman 2 on abris Send mem No lights on DL = +ve reception 3- Radio command Wingman 2/ Go to/ Datalink point And the bastard keeps saying negative...??? Its now between me and those Abrahimi pricks hiding in the forest but I'd like a feedback on any procedural errors in the process of assigning a wingy to an ingress point.. Does changing the contrast on the tv display have any bearing on how easy the target can be locked? Or is this merely a visual change for the pilot? Its a pilot candy. Shkval can still lock if you turn the bright/contrast to a dark screen Coda is the last mission of Deployment. Sorry I can't remember much but verify that Laser is on, the switch next to it make sure it is set up (AT I think) In 1.02 the Maykop station doesn't work anymore. Not sure about funnel. Depends on you target although 30-35 negative means nose down. You're right its the auto tracking / boresight switch.. Only for the benefit of the pilot as far as I recall. +1 AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
Jaximus Decimus Posted October 22, 2011 Posted October 22, 2011 You can't make a wingman go to an ingress point. Once you've set up a datalink target for your wingman you can set an ingress point. That's where he'll stage his attack. You can't just set an ingress point and tell him to go there.
WildBillKelsoe Posted October 22, 2011 Author Posted October 22, 2011 You can't make a wingman go to an ingress point. Once you've set up a datalink target for your wingman you can set an ingress point. That's where he'll stage his attack. You can't just set an ingress point and tell him to go there. care to elaborate? AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
bulletproof Posted October 22, 2011 Posted October 22, 2011 You cannot setup an ingress as a DL point for your wingman to stay at. You can, however, setup a NAV TGT and then send that to him as a point to hover "around" . The wingmen have ADD and cannot sit still (hover at point). Instead they will circle the DL point (nav tgt)
Bushmanni Posted October 22, 2011 Posted October 22, 2011 Circling uses less fuel. If there's nothing else to do it's smarter to orbit than hover. DCS Finland: Suomalainen DCS yhteisö -- Finnish DCS community -------------------------------------------------- SF Squadron
Jaximus Decimus Posted October 22, 2011 Posted October 22, 2011 care to elaborate? If you send your wingman to attack a datalink target he will normally just make a beeline for the target. This could take him right over enemy ADA or otherwise leave him exposed to attack. If you send your wingman a datalink target, then an ingress point, when you tell him to attack the datalink target he will first fly to the ingress point, then attack his target/targets. This can be used to help overcome your wingman's stupidity.
WildBillKelsoe Posted October 23, 2011 Author Posted October 23, 2011 If you send your wingman to attack a datalink target he will normally just make a beeline for the target. This could take him right over enemy ADA or otherwise leave him exposed to attack. If you send your wingman a datalink target, then an ingress point, when you tell him to attack the datalink target he will first fly to the ingress point, then attack his target/targets. This can be used to help overcome your wingman's stupidity. But in wags video, he sent two wingmen (one to the right and one to the left of the detection, and they stayed there, then he ordered the attack order. Why would they add Go to / Datalink point if the wingman will ignore it and proceed with the attack directly.. Otherwise I might have got it wrong and the ingress point is an attack initiation point (which it is, but what if I want to make last minute changes(( A datalinked target or group of targets is/are destroyed by me for instance)) why not send them to hover??) AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
Jaximus Decimus Posted October 23, 2011 Posted October 23, 2011 If you watch part 2 of "Datalink" in the producer's notes you'll see that when he orders them to attack the targets they fly to the ingress point, then immediately start attacking their respective targets. In part one he sends a wingman to a target point and he stays there in a hover. Maybe that's what you're thinking of?
WildBillKelsoe Posted October 23, 2011 Author Posted October 23, 2011 Yes exactly! To let him hover away from me, and still be ready to strike and provide distraction so I can come from another bearing and take out incoming enemy fire.. AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
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