New next western jet poll

[EtherealN]

Those are flat circular surfaces, not oblate spheroids. Big difference. ;)

 

Anyway, that's a derail in action, and totally not about trying to distract people from the ever constant guessing of the identity of DCS:Next. Honest! Now we can return to the topic. :)

[jp203000]

Those are flat circular surfaces, not oblate spheroids. Big difference. ;)

 

Anyway, that's a derail in action, and totally not about trying to distract people from the ever constant guessing of the identity of DCS:Next. Honest! Now we can return to the topic. :)

Hi EtherealN , long time no see.

[Isegrim]

Typhoon if possible why not.

 

I would really prefer the Typhoon to any F-18 when im standing in front of it and could choose one of both.

 

Cause its more expensive!:thumbup::smilewink:

[Demongornot]

Typhoon if possible why not.

 

I would really prefer the Typhoon to any F-18 when im standing in front of it and could choose one of both.

 

Cause its more expensive!:thumbup::smilewink:

 

Typhoon its a nice aircraft, i love it, but its impossible like the Rafale, the F22 Raptor or the F35, its so modern aircraft, or it will be a semi simulator totally unrealistic with a lof ot things missing and spoiled, the Hornet still really nice and the next aircraft will be an US fixed wing fighter plane.

[wess24m]

Maybe a A-10C with a newer suite number? :) does that count? ;)

[Squid]

Typhoon its a nice aircraft, i love it, but its impossible like the Rafale, the F22 Raptor or the F35, its so modern aircraft, or it will be a semi simulator totally unrealistic with a lof ot things missing and spoiled, the Hornet still really nice and the next aircraft will be an US fixed wing fighter plane.

 

on that, i wonder what would be the chances EADS (or Dassault) would be interested (marketing motive) in working with ED for a title (bearing EADS logo as well) that would add promotion points (even maybe for the airforces using it as well) , although ofcourse theres zero tangible connection between simulator fans market and defense systems sales .... I saw EADS though before, paying marketing attention regarding Typhoon to civil audiences even of small ages ...

 

 

* EADS these days goes by a new name which i cant recall now

[leafer]

Was just wondering why create another one-sided poll on a multinational forum. It's cool though, was just asking.

[ZQuickSilverZ]

An F-14 or Harrier I guess. More F-14. Honestly, I would prefer another helicopter though.

[LostOblivion]

Could you please remove the comments from the poll options, they do not belong in a poll. Thanks.

[hog_driver111th]

Was just wondering why create another one-sided poll on a multinational forum. It's cool though, was just asking.

 

Leafer, the only reason is because the next jet IS a US Fixed Wing... therefore, why should the poll include European or Eastern jets? When the time comes for the ED to make a EU or Eastern block jet, then I highly doubt any US jets would be on the poll as it wouldn't make any sense.

[leafer]

Leafer, the only reason is because the next jet IS a US Fixed Wing... therefore, why should the poll include European or Eastern jets? When the time comes for the ED to make a EU or Eastern block jet, then I highly doubt any US jets would be on the poll as it wouldn't make any sense.

 

Yeah, I apologize because I missed the key word "next". Maybe I should create one for EU jets. :D

[RhineHornet]

...that was easy...

 

F/A-18A/C Hornet

 

..all the way! :thumbup:

[ZQuickSilverZ]

I prefer the F-14 if I am forced to stay in the list. Its a cool plane. It has a legacy. Also note that the more complicated aircraft they make the longer it takes to make it..... (avionics wise)

 

If we could have any fixed wing I would say Su25T. The "other side" needs a good ground pounder of DCS quality (comparable to A-10c that is).

 

If I could have any aircraft period I would choose a "blue side" helicopter. Reason being there is no way to tell if the Black Shark is on your side or enemy right now (visually).

 

Does the A-10C have anti-radar capability? That should be a facotr to.

[FWind]

F-14 lose its job,F/A-18C next,F/A-18E ........

Edited December 22, 2011 by FWind
it is chinese

[Demongornot]

Yeah the best will be : the F/A-18 Hornet (multirole and carrier capability) the E Super Hornet will be better, after that, make something like the old project AH-64 for equilibrate with the Russian helicopter, and after the next DCS aircraft the Russian equivalent.

F-16 -> Mig-29, F-15 -> Su-27/30, F/A-18 -> SU-33

Same thing for the flying legend !

[Revelation]

I have to agree with Demongornot and a few others. I love US AC, but I'm also dying to get a hold of some Russian jets modelled to DCS standards. I would even like to see a Typhoon, Gripen or Rafale.

[Phantom88]

And yet another reason for The SuperBug.....The RIO can take some KickA$$ Video!!:thumbup:

 

[Wichid]

Cool video - it would be great to have a two seater.

[Agiel7]

Man, I don't want to have to settle on the legacy Hornet. If I had the Superhornet, I'd have the latest and greatest in avionics, the Alpha, the gas, and the payload to launch so many AMRAAMS that it'd be illegal (I should imagine quite a few people here will catch the reference).

[Demongornot]

Man, I don't want to have to settle on the legacy Hornet. If I had the Superhornet, I'd have the latest and greatest in avionics, the Alpha, the gas, and the payload to launch so many AMRAAMS that it'd be illegal (I should imagine quite a few people here will catch the reference).

 

Yeah nice reference !!

The Super Hornet is the best !!!

 

Cool video - it would be great to have a two seater.

 

Like i have already say, the best will be the single and the two seat version.

Multiplayer = Two seater more used but single seater used too but less

Solo = Single seat more used but two seat used too less

 

And if one are done, the way to coming to the second don't be long, don't need to reprogramming everything like if it is another aircraft, a lot of work will be done...

[hog_driver111th]

The E/F really would be great. I have a few friends that are smart, but can't fly and fight and the same time. Flying the Warthog is tough for them. We fly together everyday, along with a few others, and having the F model, where he could be my RIO, would be perfect. If the others want to fly alone they have the E to choose. The other great thing would be flight training for new people in the squad. Switching aircraft would be easy between single and dual. No need to switch sims like BS and A-10C, just hit the aircraft select screen and change.

Edited December 23, 2011 by hog_driver111th

[SNAFU]

The F/A-18C would be my all-time favorite US-jet (still doesn´t beat no 1 - the old MFG Tornados ;) ). Very small, but 2 engines, carrierl operations, multirole, sexy and a character. I don´t like these shiny glas pits of the latest designs - better stick to the 80`s.

 

Considering that the F/A-18E would need a different 3D modell (simply scaling the size wouldn´t do it methinks) and a new cockpit model I do not think it is realistic to expect 2 planes in one go, if ED wants to keep its high standard. So would prefer the old "analog" and small sized F-18, but considering the DCS background is linked to real contracts, I would be surprised if its the old C version.

 

Here is a nice and brief overview over the different types:

The multi-mission F/A-18E/F "Super Hornet" strike fighter is an upgrade of the combat-proven night strike F/A-18C/D. The Super Hornet will provide the battle group commander with a platform that has range, endurance, and ordnance carriage capabilities comparable to the A-6 which have been retired. The F/A-18E/F aircraft are 4.2 feet longer than earlier Hornets, have a 25% larger wing area, and carry 33% more internal fuel which will effectively increase mission range by 41% and endurance by 50%. The Super Hornet also incorporates two additional weapon stations. This allows for increased payload flexibility by mixing and matching air-to-air and/or air-to-ground ordnance. The aircraft can also carry the complete complement of "smart" weapons, including the newest joint weapons such as JDAM and JSOW. The Super Hornet can carry approximately 17,750 pounds (8,032 kg) of external load on eleven stations. It has an all-weather air-to-air radar and a control system for accurate delivery of conventional or guided weapons. There are two wing tip stations, four inboard wing stations for fuel tanks or air-to-ground weapons, two nacelle fuselage stations for Sparrows or sensor pods, and one centerline station for fuel or air-to-ground weapons. An internal 20 mm M61A1 Vulcan cannon is mounted in the nose.

Carrier recovery payload is increased to 9,000 pounds, and its engine thrust from 36,000 pounds to 44,000 pounds utilizing two General Electric F414 turbo-fan engines. Although the more recent F/A-18C/D aircraft have incorporated a modicum of low observables technology, the F/A-18E/F was designed from the outset to optimize this and other survivability enhancements.

The Hughes Advanced Targeting Forward-Looking Infra-Red (ATFLIR), the baseline infrared system for the F/A-18 E/F, will also be deployed on earlier model F/A-18s. The Hughes pod features both navigation and infrared targeting systems, incorporating third generation mid-wave infrared (MWIR) staring focal plane technology. Although 41% interdiction mission range increase may be the most notable F/A-18E/F improvement, the ability to recover aboard with optimal reserve fuel and a load of precision strike weapons, is of equal importance to the battle group commander. The growth potential of the F/A-18E/F is more important to allow flexible employment strategies in future years. If an electronically scanned array antenna or another installation-sensitive sensor or weapon system becomes available, the F/A-18E/F has the space, power and cooling to accommodate it. Although the more recent F/A-18C/D aircraft have incorporated a modicum of low observables technology, the F/A-18E/F was designed from the outset to optimize this and other survivability enhancements. The all-F/A-18C/D/E/F air wing brings an increase in capability to the carrier battle group while ensuring the potential to take advantage of technological advances for years to come.

 

Features of the F/A-18 E/F Super Hornet: Return to Top

90% Common F/A-18C/D Avionics: Avionics and software have a 90 percent commonality with current F/A-18C/Ds. However, the F/A-18E/F cockpit features a touch-sensitive, upfront control display; a larger, liquid crystal multipurpose color display; and a new engine fuel display.

34 in. Fuselage Extension: The fuselage is slightly longer - the result of a 34-inch extension.

Two Additional Multi-Mission Weapons Stations: Super Hornet has two additional weapons stations, bringing the total to 11. For aircraft carrier operations, about three times more payload can be brought back to the ship.

25% Larger Wing: A full 25 percent bigger than its predecessor, Super Hornet has nearly half as many parts.

35% Higher Thrust Engines: Increased engine power comes from the F414-GE-400, an advanced derivative of the Hornet's current F404 engine family. The F414 produces 35 percent more thrust and improves overall mission performance. Enlarged air inlets provide increased airflow to the engines.

33% Additional Internal Fuel: Structural changes to the airframe increase internal fuel capacity by 3,600 pounds, or about 33 percent. This extends the Hornet's mission radius by up to 40 percent.

Roll-out of the first Super Hornet occurred in September 1995, and it flew for the first time in November 1995, ahead of schedule and nearly 1,000 pounds under specified weight. In January 1997, the Super Hornet successfully conducted its initial sea trials on board the Navy's newest aircraft carrier, USS JOHN C. STENNIS (CVN 74).

The Navy is planning to procure a minimum of 548 Super Hornets, and possibly as many as 1,000. These numbers could vary depending on the progress of the Joint Strike Fighter Program. As part of the Quadrennial Defence Review (QDR) production of the Super Hornet was cut from 1000 to 548 units. Production of the aircraft commenced in FY 1997, and it is expected to attain initial operational capability (IOC) in FY 2001. Twelve aircraft were funded in FY 1997; procurement numbers increase to 20 in FY 1998, 30 in FY 1999, and reach a final maximum rate of 48 per year in FY 2001.

From:

http://www.fas.org/programs/ssp/man/uswpns/air/fighter/f18.html

Edited December 23, 2011 by SNAFU

[tobaschi]

a next western jet pool without tornado, rafale, mirage and gripen? no waayy

[Jona33]

Well it's US next anyway so as far as I can tell the others were just because Squid had slots left. :D

[Charlie58]

What ??? Where's the Tornado ?!! :(