My wish for future ED air combat simulators:

[blackbelter]

Please optimize for multiple-core CPUs. I am sure this will advance the gameplay qualities by vast amount. Since I play only the LO series, please at least do this for LOFC3 :D

 

Thanks.

[blackbelter]

BTW, happy 2012 everybody!

[Demongornot]

Yeah happy 2012 to you !

Same wish, but the problem its not that the software its not optimized for multi-core, the problem are that and more :

Not optimized for multi-core CPU, bad exploiting CPU power, and over both of this bad things, the most stupid thing i have ever see, a "game" where the FPS are limited by the CPU power and without the possibility to exploiting correctly the CPU.

Over that add a graphic engine where the graphic card are exploited like a s..t without Crossfire/SLI possibility and now you have a nice simulator (with a fantastic number of bug, its just the single software where a patch don't really correct actual bug and add a new list ofbug) with super bad optimization, resulting low FPS for VERRY BAD graphic render and people who think that its normal...

I have see stupid thing like : for the same scene (exactly the same and i have make a screenshoots) with same angle of camera and everything in same (during the "training" of A10C presentation)

I have testing with several graphic option, with and without Eyefinity, and i have see in one scene a high setting config give me MORE FPS than low setting, its just IMPOSSIBLE for a graphic engine with correct optimization...Even without optimization too its not really possible to see that in another graphic software and i don't talk about a minor setting config bug literally the from the minimal at the maximal possible at the same screen resolution...

And after i see people who try to defend the graphic aspect and say me that we can't have a better graphic render cause to visual range in this graphic engine, ok and i just will ask to the same people, if its really a important point ? why when, for the same scene, resolution and graphic setting, i change the visual range setting, the FPS have a minor change ?

Inside DCS we have a big proof that they have wrong and anyway say things with no sense when i compare graphic engine of DCS with other and told : other graphic engine can't simulate and do what DCS do...Yeah, but no, its a GRAPHIC engine, not a physic engine or other part of the software, we can use the graphic engine from Nintendo 64 (and we will get better graphics rending) or minecraft graphic engine, that will not change, its not the graphic engine who simulate...

Add to that a simulator where the visual effect like explosion smoke impact and more are from LOMAC without any little eye candy and lets people for who graphic are important for immersion and don't care about, ok we have now a new list of really nice 3D model for several things, but that not change the fact that we have really bad ground texture at every altitude with any graphic setting config and the original texture including in DCS are not bad but its not exploited, we have bad ground object and tree where the 3D model have already be better in the Super Nintendo or in the actual gameboy and with a size effect who give the impression that we use a RC model simulator when we see a big cruiser boat look like a 15 Cm plastic model and why we have no more good 3D model ? cause 1 ED don't have the time to made new 3D model but try for us to do that and 2 cause ED don't give us a good SDK where we can "easily" made new ED model ourself (i don't talk about 3D modeling software but about the 3D model integration, adding new animations and more and even add too new airplane (not just replace it) cause with SDK we can have an extreme new number of nice addon, look at FSX how many addon we have with new aircraft really more complex than default aircraft and a lot of good things, the same thing can be possible for DCS at one big difference, ED team talk with community, well we can directly help them and they can ask us a new 3D model, effect and more and no one can have access to source code anyway, the only thing that an SDK can do its to give us a better sim and attract new client for ED without for them need to do more things cause community can do it...

I with have the same graphic rending : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apVq20stxZQ (turn sound down)

And i DON'T talk about the same graphic engine or the same graphic level on the ground, just the same render for the same altitude and its TOTALLY possible actually, we can too have better but i think we most don't ask so much but a graphic engine optimized : first for the maximum speed of the aircraft that we control (actually the KA-50 and the A10C) and why not a little optimized for the more faster object in the sim (missile) but actually with external camera i have really little difference in FPS against free camera at plane speed and extreme speed like more than Mach 10 or cross the map in less than 5 second (i have free wheel mouse).

Add over that a really extremely bad AI who never work correctly and we have DCS...

 

Well my wish list ?

 

_Real graphic engine, not joke, i hope the next that we will have soon don't will do same bad thing...

_Correct size effect, stop the RC aircraft simulator

_Correct (i wish say "legal" :D) graphic effect

_More optimization...

_Graphic engine don't based to the CPU power

_Better graphic render

_SDK with tool for AI

_Patch who correct bug, and not reinforce them and add a new list of their friendly

_Correct AI, not stupid thing commit stupid suicide, never work and fly a fighter jet aircraft like an AN-225 or an 747 with a minimum of strategy, realistic procedure and realistic flight phase and not see soldier who don't try to run or stay cover when under attack.

 

That must be done one day anyway...

Edited January 1, 2012 by Demongornot

[jctrnacty]

Well i am more humble.

 

I just wish satisfied and fully supported people in ED team(thank you for your work russian guys in ED), because when theyll love their work we will get the best fruit of their work.

 

I wish a supportive and loyal community and all people who love sims to support this genre (buying sim products.)

 

Less whining, more of constructive criticism, helping each other with problems on forums.

 

And to all uf us, i wish more quality sims to the future.

 

:-) Peace

[Snoopy]

.....

Well my wish list ?

 

_Real graphic engine, not joke, i hope the next that we will have soon don't will do same bad thing...

_Correct size effect, stop the RC aircraft simulator

_Correct (i wish say "legal" :D) graphic effect

_More optimization...

_Graphic engine don't based to the CPU power

_Better graphic render

_SDK with tool for AI

_Patch who correct bug, and not reinforce them and add a new list of their friendly

_Correct AI, not stupid thing commit stupid suicide, never work and fly a fighter jet aircraft like an AN-225 or an 747 with a minimum of strategy, realistic procedure and realistic flight phase and not see soldier who don't try to run or stay cover when under attack.

 

That must be done one day anyway...

 

Well that was painful to read....is there anything about the sim you like?

[blackbelter]

Well i am more humble.

 

I just wish satisfied and fully supported people in ED team(thank you for your work russian guys in ED), because when theyll love their work we will get the best fruit of their work.

 

I wish a supportive and loyal community and all people who love sims to support this genre (buying sim products.)

 

Less whining, more of constructive criticism, helping each other with problems on forums.

 

And to all uf us, i wish more quality sims to the future.

 

:-) Peace

 

No harm giving guys in ED a push, letting them know what we (at least me and Mr. Demongornot. Who else?) are really looking forward to...

 

Of course, they've already done a splendid job in creating LO and DCS series. But the advance of technologies does not wait...

[Kuky]

I could not read that 4th post above... ED is on the right track already... all this SIM needs now is to spread the SIM engine onto more CPU cores. You can't compare DCS level of any other on the market as really there is nothing eve close to realistic complexity of the SIM, which by the way is not GRAPHICAL part at all, so yeah... this SIM until multithreaded will remain CPU limited the most

[KLR Rico]

I for one would love to see more multithreading. I play on workstation hardware, 2x Xeon e5420's (8 physical cores), but since they run at 2.5 GHz, I can't really enjoy gaming on it. AFIK, X Plane 10 is the first sim that has been written to take advantage of multiple cores to the fullest extent.... I'd love to see the trend move to DCS!

[Demongornot]

Well that was painful to read....is there anything about the sim you like?

 

Of course i love a lof ot things about this sim, even too in the graphics i think that every new 3D model are really great, so beautiful with nice details and texture, extremely realistic flight model and avionic, weapon simulation and more good things, its a really nice simulator and when i talk about it with people who love aircraft i council us to buy it cause its really nice and ED team do a nice work and i have too create a facebook group where i talk about new of DCS A10C cause i love it.

But we have several big negative point like graphic render/performance, bad AI, big problem with patch and SDK missing...

And with SDK we can see incredible things including graphic improvement, the most perfect example its GrandSurf, look that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8scXSG3hF3Y

Its just beautiful to see what he have done and its hard for people like him who want to do that without SDK, with SDK we can be able to see a lot of addons incredible like that, new effect, vapor in wings, new sound, nice animated ground crew and more...

Imagine the pleasure to flight with a simulator where the tree the building and the texture are advanced like the addon of Grandsurf but everywhere on the map, maybe too adding reflexion and nice effect like turbulence when we pass behind another aircraft and more, changing the size effect in final render and other possibility that community can do, the possibility if a team like PMDG give us a full simulate realistic model of KC-135 with possibility to make the boomer...

And with the Combined Arms its more logic !

DCS Series and Flamming Cliff its a great series of simulator yes of course but we can have better for several point and actually we don't exploit the real possibility of a simulator like that and its sad...

 

I could not read that 4th post above... ED is on the right track already... all this SIM needs now is to spread the SIM engine onto more CPU cores. You can't compare DCS level of any other on the market as really there is nothing eve close to realistic complexity of the SIM, which by the way is not GRAPHICAL part at all, so yeah... this SIM until multithreaded will remain CPU limited the most

 

I'm not compare to another sim, i just say, the graphic render are BAD that all, compared to everything you want that not change, i not compare to one or to other sim or game, i compare to EVERY actual graphic POSSIBILITY, and i just can told you that we can have better and if even for the actual bad graphic we can without problem use it, yeah i just get to don't talk about, but we have bad graphic rending and that need a supercomputer from the NASA to work, and with the bad optimization i don't be sure that the supercomputer with 5 thz and total compatibility will not have 0.1% of the CPU exploited for only 5 FPS at the end...

 

But i can too compare and say : the new Seven G with the ugliest graphic engine ever 100 time worst than DCS including vapor on wing and the wing flexibility during high G and nice pilot head movement, the vapor effect the community ask it to ED team since how many time ? idk, but since long time...

For another sim the new Combat Helo have a nice graphic engine, its not at the level of a FPS graphic engine (fps who are made for simulate HUMAN EYES and not a simple camera, it just must be the standard for every game/software) the graphic engine Outerra its really nice, the including physic engine are really nice too and it can be improve for support DCS complexity.

[Kuky]

Well Seven G is not out yet, so who knows how it will perform. Look at IL-2 CoD... it was hyped is being the ultimate WWI flight sim but when I installed it I saw 1/2 finished and extremely unoptimized product.

 

DCS doesn't have the vapour over the wings yet, but it does have the flexing... the Ka-50 has it, the A-10 doesn't but it's not supposed to (it's wings are very thick and should be quite rigid)

 

Every new model ED puts out it's work of art... so really I agree that it's still not what it can be, bu ED are working on it... remember Nevada expansion it's being worked on? ED is working in new terrain engine so I am expecting they will improve on this part considerably... we just have to wait it out

Edited January 1, 2012 by Kuky

[LostOblivion]

Seeing how big the improvement was in every aspect from DCSBS to DCSW, I can only imagine an even bigger improvement for the next module, seeing as how ED has probably received a lot of new customers after the release of wh.

[blackbelter]

Of course ED are working on many improvements of LO and DCS series. Probably too many.

 

The point of having a wish list is to tell the developers which aspects assume higher priorities in OUR minds...

Edited January 1, 2012 by blackbelter