How to stop this CHEAT - HACKED DEDI SERVER

[GGTharos]

Nope.

 

Hmm, I was just reading through some of this post. 1) This guy is a REAL hacker.

[Heli Shed]

Nope.

 

Being a bit cagey there GG. Either spill the beans or lend us your thoughts mate, come on. This bloke / blokes, is an ass and ruining the already dwindling FC2 MP community down to practically nothing but closed servers. (not that i fly FC2 anymore).

 

I think this thread should be closed seeing as Rik has announced ED are looking into it (an i`m perfect aware i am not a moderator and what moderation is). It is just bringing about speculation and ambiguity as to who, why and how. Those vfs's that are suffering (make no mistake they are) because of the actions of this hack / cheat, should be afforded an area seperate where they can report further occasions of it happeneing to ED direct in a bid to assist them eradicate an exploit with 'their' product?

 

'T'

Edited January 21, 2012 by Tyger

[Case]

That ED is looking into this issue does not mean that it will be fixed for FC2/BS1. Most likely what ever results from it will be implemented in the future titles.

 

Though the AI planes hack is annoying, it is by far not as annoying as what has been happening over the last week, where quite a few servers were brought down by malicious network packets.

[124SqZeljava]

This game on MP is recorded automatically by miz. file and trk. file. Is it possible to shot that function down, in TEMP folder, to not exist and not to work/record, like it working/recording now. I believe, that this function have big importance with that Master Cheat Impact on MP comunity.

This is just one inocent thought, so let me know can this really be the issue? Cheers and S!;)

[Heli Shed]

That ED is looking into this issue does not mean that it will be fixed for FC2/BS1. Most likely what ever results from it will be implemented in the future titles.

 

Though the AI planes hack is annoying, it is by far not as annoying as what has been happening over the last week, where quite a few servers were brought down by malicious network packets.

 

Hmm....now that, is a different matter. :helpsmilie:

[GGTharos]

Unfortunately there is no value in me telling you what I know - it won't stop what's happening, it may in fact increase occurrences.

 

As Rik said though, it's being worked on.

 

Being a bit cagey there GG. Either spill the beans or lend us your thoughts mate, come on. This bloke / blokes, is an ass and ruining the already dwindling FC2 MP community down to practically nothing but closed servers. (not that i fly FC2 anymore).

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

Though the AI planes hack is annoying, it is by far not as annoying as what has been happening over the last week, where quite a few servers were brought down by malicious network packets.

Now, this is indeed very serious problem.

[Cali]

Being a bit cagey there GG. Either spill the beans or lend us your thoughts mate, come on. This bloke / blokes, is an ass and ruining the already dwindling FC2 MP community down to practically nothing but closed servers. (not that i fly FC2 anymore).

 

 

When you start seeing ace pilots with kill ratio under 2, that is telling me they don't care anymore. When you don't see people flying that you have seen for years, then, yes mp is dying or is dead. There are whole squads that don't fly anymore or rarely fly. I know some of them switched to different games. And with this new hack, it is just pushing the knife in farther. I fly FC2 just to get that fast action like must of the other people now. It has lost the appeal to try to fly realistic or semi-relaistic cause NO ONE does. FC3 will hopefully bring some people back and make it fun to fly. But there needs to be a lot of changes made. After being in the Falcon world for the last few months, I now understand why the F4 community is the way it is. FC2 and BMS are two very different beast, at least for me, the comparison isn't even close.

[Heli Shed]

When you start seeing ace pilots with kill ratio under 2, that is telling me they don't care anymore. When you don't see people flying that you have seen for years, then, yes mp is dying or is dead. There are whole squads that don't fly anymore or rarely fly. I know some of them switched to different games. And with this new hack, it is just pushing the knife in farther. I fly FC2 just to get that fast action like must of the other people now. It has lost the appeal to try to fly realistic or semi-relaistic cause NO ONE does. FC3 will hopefully bring some people back and make it fun to fly. But there needs to be a lot of changes made. After being in the Falcon world for the last few months, I now understand why the F4 community is the way it is. FC2 and BMS are two very different beast, at least for me, the comparison isn't even close.

 

Crazy huh?

[FLANKERATOR]

When you start seeing ace pilots with kill ratio under 2, that is telling me they don't care anymore. When you don't see people flying that you have seen for years, then, yes mp is dying or is dead. There are whole squads that don't fly anymore or rarely fly. I know some of them switched to different games. And with this new hack, it is just pushing the knife in farther. I fly FC2 just to get that fast action like must of the other people now. It has lost the appeal to try to fly realistic or semi-relaistic cause NO ONE does. FC3 will hopefully bring some people back and make it fun to fly. But there needs to be a lot of changes made. After being in the Falcon world for the last few months, I now understand why the F4 community is the way it is. FC2 and BMS are two very different beast, at least for me, the comparison isn't even close.

 

Don't loose your passion mate, hopefully it will be just a matter of time before they get around those hacks, plus FC3 is on his way, am sure it will be a blast. Few extras might popup as well in the near future.

BMS is very cool indeed, but there are some few things you can't find there.

[mig29movt]

Don't loose your passion mate, hopefully it will be just a matter of time before they get around those hacks, plus FC3 is on his way, am sure it will be a blast. Few extras might popup as well in the near future.

BMS is very cool indeed, but there are some few things you can't find there.

 

I found this a while ago at thebattlesim.com:

 

Currently nine flyable aircraft (A-10A, F-15C, Su-27, MiG-29, MiG-29, Su-25, Su-25T, Su-33, Ka-50) with more under development (F-16, F/A-18 ).

Aircraft can be set to fly profiles on autopilot, allowing the FAC student or instructor to appreciate the pilot's view without the concern of having to fly the aircraft.

Pilot refresher capability for avionics and weapons delivery training.

 

I think there is a chance that FC3 will feature this new aircraft and it would be a really NICE feature (ED :book: ED:book: NICE... )

 

I rarely play MP because a lot of things were suspicious too me and flying the Ka-50 on a mixed BS, FC2 server gets a little bit annoying after you get shot the 2nd time by an F-15C... :mad:

 

I really hope that ED will solve the problem so it won't end up like the dusty Modern Warfare 2 DVD in my room. Please stand by: Host migration........ :music_whistling:

[Frostie]

 

I rarely play MP because a lot of things were suspicious too me

I've flown mp for quite sometime now and more often than not these suspicious things are usually down to inexperience. Human pilots are a hell of a lot more cunning and smarter than AI pilots.

[Cali]

Don't loose your passion mate, hopefully it will be just a matter of time before they get around those hacks, plus FC3 is on his way, am sure it will be a blast. Few extras might popup as well in the near future.

BMS is very cool indeed, but there are some few things you can't find there.

 

Haven't lost it, just fly FC2 in a different way now. Yes, BMS is missing some things, the main thing is online pvp, other then that I can't think of too much else is missing. I'm looking forward to FC3 and hopefully we'll finally get a new fighter or 2.

[Speed]

The good news is that it appears that in the intervening times between FC2 and DCS 1.1.1.1, some of these "hacks" have in fact been taken care of. Not all, but at least some.

 

And no, this guy it doesn't appear that this guy is some super-skilled hacker. Just a super-douchebag.

[Speed]

Being a bit cagey there GG. Either spill the beans or lend us your thoughts mate, come on.

 

'T'

 

You want GG to reveal how this guy is "hacking"? Hmm... I see nothing wrong at all with that idea! Other than... ummm... it could ruin MP even more, it could get GG fired, it could potentially endanger Lua modding, it could ruin a bunch of people's multiplayer sessions, and lose ED sales. Other than that, it's a great idea! Even just saying that this guy isn't using any kind of advanced "leet" hacking may be too much.

Edited January 22, 2012 by Speed

[GGTharos]

Easy there. Tyger was probably thinking that there might be a way to stop stuff, which is fair enough.

[Speed]

Easy there. Tyger was probably thinking that there might be a way to stop stuff, which is fair enough.

 

Ah, ok, maybe I misinterpreted. I'm sorry if I did, but after reading and re-reading, it seemed like he was pressing you for the details of these "hacks". Already too much has been said about them in this thread. But yea, for FC2, there is no point in setting your integrity checkers to "Nazi" level to stop all this, it's not likely to work.

 

So, from what I understand of Lua, it looks strongly like there is no real way to stop these cheats other than either making a specialized, server cheat detection mod, or waiting for FC 3, in which, it appears that at least some of the hacks won't work. Perhaps all of these hacks won't work. I have yet to test the aircraft insertion cheat... honestly, the only motivation to do so would be to find out for sure what their signature looks like in Lua, and verify/test methods of destroying/removing them.

 

And let's hope that ED gets some more improvements into their integrity checker/anti-cheating stuff.

Edited January 22, 2012 by Speed

[Cali]

Neg rep inbound.........J/K and the person knows who I'm talking about :D Can't spread anymore rep to you Speed.

 

We don't want the "how it's done" public.

[Sov13t]

Just so everyone is on the same page.

 

Integrity checking the Scripts/compile.lua will resolve the cloning issue.

 

DoS attacks are a different story but ED is aware of it.

[Falcon_S]

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Integrity checking the Scripts/compile.lua will resolve the cloning issue.

 

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And maybe + this: http://www.n00bunlimited.net/blogs/siosios/4-stop-ddos-attacks-your-server-windows-untested-n-u.html

 

Be careful with the Windows registry. But somehow this makes sense to me. I have not tested but it is worth to try.

[213]

you're kidding right? this has nothing to do with ddos attacks.

[Speed]

Neg rep inbound.........J/K and the person knows who I'm talking about :D Can't spread anymore rep to you Speed.

 

We don't want the "how it's done" public.

 

Yea, I get my share of negative rep. I'll be the first to admit, sometimes I get carried away and don't know when to shut the !@#$ up :D

[Speed]

Just so everyone is on the same page.

 

Integrity checking the Scripts/compile.lua will resolve the cloning issue.

 

DoS attacks are a different story but ED is aware of it.

 

Great, hopefully that's it for that cheat and he won't figure out a work-around. And at least with the problem of the "nuclear" weapons cheat, I think it's fixed in DCS 1.1.1.1.

But by the DoS attacks, you're referring to him CTDing the host, right? There's a small possibility it will leave evidence of what he's doing to CTD the server in the log file, or perhaps even a crash file. I'll look to see if someone linked one earlier... but if not, could someone upload one?

Edited January 23, 2012 by Speed

[Case]

But by the DoS attacks, you're referring to him CTDing the host, right? There's a small possibility it will leave evidence of what he's doing to CTD the server in the log file, or perhaps even a crash file. I'll look to see if someone linked one earlier... but if not, could someone upload one?

 

On the 51st server we've traced the CTDs to a TCP packet by sniffing the network traffic to and from our server. These packets originate from different IPs, most likely proxies, but the packets contain the same TCP data section. We do not yet know if there is something fishy in the TCP data section or the TCP header.

Edited January 26, 2012 by Case

[Cali]

Yea, I get my share of negative rep. I'll be the first to admit, sometimes I get carried away and don't know when to shut the !@#$ up :D

 

Ditto, I know what you mean. You have made some good mods, they have been helpful. I can't pos rep you yet.